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Prototype Song Uploads

Hey, I just noticed you uploaded a couple of .ogg files of Prototype's music. On Misplaced Pages, generally the maximum length audio clips of copyrighted material should be are 30 seconds, unless permission to release the track on a free license is provided by the artists directly. You should re-upload them to satisfy this constraint if you do not have this permission. Vortiene (talk) 14:55, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. It might take me a while to find the right stuff to shorten the audio files, and I'm a bit short on time at the moment, but I should be able to do it within a week or so. Thanks again. Regards, 4TheWynne (talk) 10:32, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

For Audio editing, you might try Audacity (freeware, easy to use). Vortiene (talk) 16:28, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Watching Dragonforce

Hi, I've noticed you have been watching and maintaining Dragonforce. If you revert edits, please leave a note as to why. Otherwise, an edit war can start much more easily. As well, not pointing fingers, but because everyone needs to be sure to realize that this is one of the most common things when editing band-related articles: please do not be a Genre Warrior.

(Also, you might not want your autobiography on your talk page, it seems like private information, and this page is public.) Vortiene (talk) 16:11, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks for editing the Fall Out Boy page's member timeline, you made a great edit. Noreplyhaha (talk) 04:51, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Im not using any talk Page to Justify removal of deceptive editing and lies

Oscar Meyer didn't form as Keebler . Rise Against with Different members and a Different Name and One release was not real reased under "Rise Against" the article is About rise Against . To "milk" an extra few years back to the "90s" It was written Deceptively . So are you not about a Correct Article and why are you having a problem with the truth ? Have you actually read that first section. Which for the first Few YEARS they weren't "Rise Against" . How is that Encyclopedic to lie ? 68.39.152.45 (talk) 04:25, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

answer the Question . Why delete it , because you can't really Justify the edits you have undone ? Surely a Question doesn't bother you right and you're all about working with other editors to make the best Possible Articles right ? 68.39.152.45 (talk) 05:12, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

All right, let me put it to you this way: to an small extent, you are correct – the band "Transistor Revolt" formed in 1999. They then changed their name to "Rise Against" two years later; however, this is where you're wrong – they are the same band, with the same members, and the same rights; they only changed the drummer, but just because they changed their name, doesn't mean they're a different band entirely. The rest of what you're saying is utter nonsense. Now, please refer to the article talk page if you want to say anything else about this. 4TheWynne (talk) 05:32, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

ok well I am TOTALLY right . The name of the Article is what the Page is About . The name of the page is RISE AGAINST . Rise against start date is 2001 . Period . If they had "10" band names or one Prior . oranges are not apples . 4 men could form apple computers, if the same four men form dell computers later on, THEY ARE NOT APPLE . There is NO SUCH THING as "Dell was formed as APPLE" . You understand this ? 68.39.152.45 (talk) 05:37, 25 November 2014) (UTC)

How about this being your trying to "discredit" by calling what I typed "utter nonsense" . Heres a clearer example . A musician who plays bass since 1980 but prior played harmonica for three years can not have in an Article that they played bass since 1977 . This is what "rise against" article is claiming . Its Wrong . no two ways about it . 68.39.152.45 (talk) 05:56, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Ok Im on the talk page for like 3 days now . I don't see YOU, there . How about this you seem to have some invested interest in leaving the lies that are there . Complete nonsense is subject-able . Lets see the pages you've created Ive created about 21 . From another page . Nonsense ? not even close .Keep calling my stuff names . One page I wrote about 99% of all content is in a BOOK BY WIKI , hardly type "nonsense" . With my self esteem little trite dig words like that will never matter . Coming out in a small movie next year . How about keep your words towards the Article . Your "assessment" of my writing is no matter to me . Ive been worldwide published since age 18 . what is Important here is getting the article CORRECT . try and stop wasting your time trying to put these little "digs" in . You aren't here to try and dig on people . Just HELP OUT and BE EASY TO WORK WITH . SO you asked me to go to the talk page . Been there for a few days now .

Also if you want to call anything I've done in this matter "nonsense" PROVE IT 68.39.152.45 (talk) 02:16, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

I'm not calling any of your own writing nonsense. I don't know anything about your writing. It's the stuff that you've put on my talk page, Acroterion's talk page, even your own talk page (basically anywhere else where you've discussed the matter outside of the Rise Against talk page) – all of which makes absolutely no sense – that I'm referring to as nonsense. And I don't think you seem to understand what I've been trying to tell you, which is why I haven't added anything yet. I want what I'm trying to tell you to sink in; clearly it's taking too long.

Understand that when a band changes its name, they are not a completely different band – which is what you're claiming. For the last time – Rise Against was formed in 1999, just under a different name. Go and type into Google "when was rise against formed". There was nothing incorrect about the article before you came along. I'm not saying that the things that you changed in the article are nonsense, just that it's incorrect. I'm not taking a dig at you, either; it's just that some of the stuff that you're saying doesn't really make sense, and that what you're editing is what's contradicting the article, not the original content. I just want you to understand exactly what I'm trying to say to you, and that – not that I want to say it – I feel like you're fighting a one-man battle here. Just in this case.

You promised you'd "get other people involved and let them handle it", and that hasn't happened yet; so don't even bother worrying about my input on the talk page just yet. I'm not the one who's being hard to work with here. The ball's in your court. 4TheWynne (talk) 06:29, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Best to post this on the article talkpage. I'v let a note there about the need for direct sourcing. Acroterion (talk) 13:21, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Noticeboard discussion

there is a discussion involving your deceptive edits and Hounding about to take place at the noticeboard 73.193.195.69 (talk) 01:18, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive855#http:.2F.2Fen.wikipedia.org.2Fwiki.2FUser:4TheWynne_keeps_removing_valid_sources_and_is_protecting_a_deceptive_article

FYI: I moved the discussion for the IP from the archive page over to the live WP:ANI page. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 01:43, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. I've tried to have my say but this guy keeps on adding stuff, so I'm going to wait for a bit. I'd also like someone else to have a say first. Anyway, thanks for your help. With regards, 4TheWynne (talk) 01:47, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

no not "this guy" I have written Articles from another page and (one of that I know) Its in a BOOK BY WIKI . I am a professional and am out in a (medium size) Movie this upcoming year (with henry rollins and everyone else). I know my stuff . I am Published National and Worldwide, I am a Worldwide Musician as well . You keep trying to protect the lie that a band with a release as transistor revolt was called Rise Against . its not Rocket science . You said I needed References I found them with EASE and you made excuses and get the page "protected". Like the truth is going to do anything but Help . 73.193.195.69 (talk) 01:59, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

keeps on adding "stuff" or references that are real . 73.193.195.69 (talk) 02:02, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Really, then? What's the name of this movie? What's it about? What do you do as a musician? What do you mean you're published nationally/internationally? You're being very vague, which is why I don't believe you. 4TheWynne (talk) 02:42, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Really . I can't tell you you may figure it out . esp. if you look up the movie name at wiki . Too bad for you its true for me . Yep . I wrote an entire article myself and editors only had to add stuff like "such as" so its my article .

I found the book on google through its title and ISBN . Wouldn't you like to know . However you won't be Privy . However you protect big Falicies at that page , exposed now 73.193.195.69 (talk)

Published nationally and Internationally as a Musician and a Writer . Not here to "brag" just showing I am not fly by night editor I am a Professional. what have you done ? 73.193.195.69 (talk)

Actually when you find out Henry is in a movie coming out this year , its THAT one , I doubt he's coming out in Two , nothing against henry but those are the odds , Either way the Notice board is where we are going to show you were born as your name if you change your name you still were born as your original name JUST LIKE A BAND ! hey What do you know ! makes perfect sense you know it, I know it 73.193.195.69 (talk)

Whats it about ? its about hardcore basically. Other Greats are in it . H.R. EVERYONE. Most do interviews too. What do I do. I play perform and write music lol What do I mean. well when things you write make it into things like books and releases that go national and worldwide the by product result is you are then published W.W. lol Either way Im no "this guy" even if I hadn't done and do all that (and more lol) A real Truth is real and a valid reference is VALID not to be Erased by someone Protecting a page. 73.193.195.69 (talk)

OK cool STILL EDIT WARRING WITH ME . 73.193.195.69 (talk) 03:25, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

EDIT WARRING

Apparently you doA LOT of edit warring huh. Your time is coming . thanks to another editor the Rise Against issues will go to an Appropriate channel that will take care of the Policy issues. have a Nice day . 73.193.195.69 (talk) 18:12, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Rise Against talk page

http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Rise_Against#ANI_dispute

Hi, Go ahead to the Rise Against talk page that you typed that you watch and be and get involved in our content debate and clean up 73.193.195.69 (talk) 19:10, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Fall Out Boy timeline

Hello. Regarding your post on my talk page: If it's OK with you, I'd like to move your post to the Fall Out Boy talk page and respond there.--Taylornate (talk) 03:52, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

By all means, go right ahead. Regards, 4TheWynne (talk) 03:54, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Chloë Grace Moretz filmography

Hello! I noticed that in this edit you used the summary, "Source not needed; says "Alina/Teri" in the film's article". Please be aware that Misplaced Pages cannot cite itself. Instead, I have found and added a new, proper source for the data. —ATinySliver/ 21:24, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for the confusion. I wasn't trying to make it sound like Misplaced Pages could cite itself – I just didn't see any other references next to character names throughout Chloë's filmography, so I opted to remove it and simply mirror what it said in the film's article. But hopefully that clears things up. Anyway, thanks for letting me know! Regards, 4TheWynne 22:42, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

No problem! —ATinySliver/ 00:19, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

I just noticed that I skimmed over your reply and missed a very good point that you brought up: the other character names aren't cited. In most cases (as it should be, where possible), they can be confirmed by clicking on the ref url in the article's body. In this case, it's a character who uses a street name, and the ref included didn't reflect that. IMHO, that required a citation. —ATinySliver/ 20:28, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

What the hell?

Your edits are mostly on your own page, your edits are tisruptive and you go in revert wars, I don't like that kind of attitude - would you stop disrupting people's work and stop relying on Misplaced Pages as a weblog rather than a serious web-encyclopedia vehicle? You are youngling, and you don't do shit rather than go in revert wars and edit your topblog userpage. I also tended to do much work on my UserPage, but that was mostly to project my interests and their impact on Misplaced Pages. Not to revert other people's work. Start act seriously otherwise it says bad.

The Mad Hatter (talk)

What you're saying makes absolutely no sense. 4TheWynne 00:14, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Nikki Reed

I edited the Nikki Reed page for her divorce finalized date and you changed it. I read your reference article but it didn't list an actual date for their divorce. The article I found lists the 26th of December as the date. I was wondering why you changed it. Livsmommy81 (talk) 15:22, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Timeline size

Hi there. When I typed "correct" size, I meant correct as in change. It was discussed previously (cannot recall where) but 1000 is too wide for many screens, 800 caters for all. Cheers.--Carlos Rojas77 (talk) 06:11, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Sure thing. Only thing I had against it was that all timelines that I edit/create are 1000. My screen is neither big nor wide, and 1000 is nowhere near too big for it. I just thought you might have been referring to mobile screens or something, and I have always felt that 800 is too small. 4TheWynne 06:56, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Default screen size on Windows XP computers with 4:3 screens was 800*600, and the largest size possible was 1024*768. So in these respects, it would be more ideal to use 800. I know people shouldn't be on 4:3 computers these days, but unfortunately that's how it ends up. Vortiene (talk) 13:00, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

I see. I guess that's something else that will have to be brought up in the future. Thanks for the heads-up, though. 4TheWynne 13:16, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Hugh Jackman issue

Hi, I do not deal too much with user disputes but I know that we can have an impartial third editor take a look at the content dispute and render a (nonbinding) opinion, per WP:3. There are more serious alternatives like the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard, but I am not sure that would be very useful since the user has stopped commenting on the Hugh Jackman talk page. I don't think the user has technically violated WP:3RR yet but if he does, then he could potentially be blocked for disruptive editing. If that is the case, there is this page to check out. Hope that helps a bit! wia (talk) 11:39, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

I don't deal too much with user disputes either, and for that, I appreciate your suggestions. Thanks – 4TheWynne 11:51, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

I've replied on Roarkp's talk page with some suggestions for more constructive editing, including some articles he could read to help him craft a sentence that will fit well into the article. Hopefully that will obviate the need for any dispute resolution! wia (talk) 14:10, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

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Linkin Park tours

Friend, why aren't the tours not important for the article. Have a look at the articles of Eminem and Thirty Seconds to Mars. Mike:Golu · 09:28, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Irrelevant. You don't see the articles of Metallica or Machine Head listing their tours, do you? My point is, the tours aren't something that is essential to the article, like the band members or discography would be. 4TheWynne 10:28, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Linkin Park Infobox

I partially revered your edit to the Linkin Park article pertaining to the member order specified in the Infobox. I feel I owe you an explanation. Per Template:Infobox musical artist#current_members, the standard documentation states that we should list band members by 'order of joining' and then alphabetical order. While I agree with your edits to standardize the order of band member sections, there is already a written guideline that defines the order we should use for bandmates in the infobox. Thank you for your time. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  04:23, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

I wouldn't call it much of a partial revert, more that two of the members weren't in the right order even after I tried to fix it, and you saw to that. I knew that the guideline existed, but not that members that started at the same time were to be listed in alphabetical order. Thanks for taking the time to let me know, and I'll keep that in mind for next time. Other than that, thanks for your support! Regards, 4TheWynne 04:50, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

James Hird years

Hi there, It is the normal practice to use AFL season dates as the relevant years in the infobox - ie Ross Lyon is listed as being at St Kilda until 2011, Freo from 2012, not both in 2011, despite being recruited in September 2011. Showing that he missed the 2014 season is much more accurate and informative than saying he coached continually from 2011. Also, I didn't mean to hit the revert button, but the screen links jumped as I went to click the undo button, so I was unable to explain this in the edit summary. The-Pope (talk) 09:18, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, you were too quick for me. 4TheWynne 09:23, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Machine Head albums

I strongly disagree. Nu metal was the last strongly successful push of metal into the mainstream. According to records shown by the discography page, they seem to suggest that The Burning Red brought the most success so far. I may, however, still be incorrect, so I will not re-add my edit due to this dispute. I wanted to just state my opinion, even if it doesn't change anything. Thank you for your time. DannyMusicEditor (talk) 18:50, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

I appreciate you coming forward and having your say. Here's what I have to say about it, though: The Blackening earned Machine Head their first Grammy Award nomination and a greater fan following which, with the help of social media, continued with Unto the Locust and Bloodstone & Diamonds, and they "would not have success until later albums". That's basically what I managed to decipher from the lead, and I highly doubt that it was referring to their nu metal albums. And looking at the discography page, regardless of the sales, the chart positions for the three aforementioned albums are significantly higher. 4TheWynne 05:30, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Furious 7 – working on expansion of Filming section

Don't worry; I haven't changed anything on you again! I'm just trying to garner your advice. I'm working on expanding the Filming section of the Furious 7 article, with more information on production, etc.; when which scenes were filmed and where. It'd be similar to the Filming section in the article for The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus, the information in which I did most of the research for (and which I am still very proud of). Unlike that article, however, the sources I've gathered for this one -- but have not yet implemented -- come from completely different places: Filming notices, B-roll footage with clapperboard dates, interviews with certain members of the cast, casting calls, and, strangest of all, Twitter -- specific Tweets from James Wan, Dwayne Johnson, Ronda Rousey, and John Brotherton being some of the ones I've collated.

Due to the wide range of sources, I am sort of at a loss as to how to properly cite each one -- especially the Twitter tweets and B-roll footage (which is up on YouTube). I started to put up info from the second week of the Georgia shoot a week or two ago, but at the moment I'd like your advice on how to proceed. Stolengood (talk) 07:17, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Sure thing – show me some of what you've got, and I'll be happy to see what we can do with them. 4TheWynne 07:34, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

I've got like 12 or more tabs open with the various things; I just need help citing it. How exactly do you cite a tweet on here, much less a specific timestamp on a YouTube video? :-/ Stolengood (talk) 21:03, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Find Dwayne Johnson's character's description in the cast section. There should be a sourced tweet at the end of the paragraph, so for now, we'll assume that that's the way to go in regards to sourcing Twitter. In regards to sourcing YouTube, though – and I've seen this done in several ways, but none of them seem to be right – for now, just throw in the URL and complete as many of the reference criteria (e.g. title, date, etc.) as you can. Also, might I suggest leaving a space between your comments, just as I do? It just makes it easier for me to find the specific comments, that's all, and I'm sure others will agree. Thanks – 4TheWynne 22:20, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Natalie Portman - Country of birth

Could you please explain to me why you keep reverting an edit that I made to the article on Natalie Portman. Could you please address the relevant section in the Talk page, rather than make instantaneous deletions. Please note that Ms. Portman is noted as being "Israeli-born" in the main article, so why do you keep deleting the same fact in the info-box??? Barmispain (talk) 08:13, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Look, I reverted your edit a second time (as I'm sure anyone else would have) because you hadn't reached a consensus on the point that I know you were trying to make. Simply starting a section at the relevant talk page and not waiting for other editors to respond before re-implementing the edit in question isn't going to cut it. I would wait until you start discussing properly, and I don't even need to involve myself in all of this. 4TheWynne 08:25, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting me there

I had mistakenly thought I was on the video game's page. Thanks for pointing that out.--Taeyebaar (talk) 05:25, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

No worries. 4TheWynne 11:45, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

"Mentions in popular culture"

If mentioning to this issue (being widely regarded as sexually attractive) is not appropriate n its non-noteworthy trivia so why is this mentioned in other actors bio? for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/Johnny_Depp Set fire 2 de rain (talk) 08:45, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Rise Against

I dont think think that they are melodic hardcore dude they are mostly punk rock

Wonderdisk 93 (talk) 23:28, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

That's very opinionative of you. I'm guessing you're the one who was at the page before, and have finally decided to create an account. Well, in that case, would you like to take this up at the talk page properly (instead of just repeating what you've said here)? Having gone through WWIII for this article, all due to a single four-digit number, I'd be quite happy to discuss things there again. 4TheWynne 03:50, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Dude i know that but my point is that they are alright just listen to one of their song for example alright just were they sing about animal rights that what makes them punk rock just look and listen to the music video dude so what you think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jg9443 (talk • contribs) 14:45, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Dude i know that but my point is that they are alright just listen to one of their song for example alright just were they sing about animal rights that what makes them punk rock just look and listen to the music video dude so what you think.Jg9443 (talk) 14:46, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Just to let you know if you change i change it as well this would stop until you just leave it to punk rock and that"s it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jg9443 (talk • contribs) 17:32, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

I apologize for my threats i had about 3 days to think about it i am deeply sorry is that i felt that i really thought they were punk rock and my begging and pleading for that i am sorry i am being the bigger man here dude. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jg9443 (talk • contribs) 20:56, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Jg9443 (talk · contribs), in this case at least, apologising doesn't make you "the bigger man", "dude". You do the wrong thing, you do the time. That's how it works around here. And making threats was just one of those things, regardless of what you "felt that you really thought". Anyway, hopefully you will start to make better decisions and make proper contributions here. Clean up your act. 4TheWynne 12:21, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

sorry to bother you i just wanted to let you know just look at their music videos and albums their in the punk rock community and i will give to you they are melodic hardcore songs in them but it does not mean that i am begging if you can look them up their music and albums please just look it up.Jg9443 (talk) 01:20, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Jg9443 (talk · contribs), you know what, rather than try and be the voice of reason like I always do, go to the Rise Against talk page and discuss your views with Realpunkmusic (talk · contribs), who disagrees with you completely. I actually follow the band very closely, and I know all about their music – what you're saying is entirely opinionative, and I'm sick of hearing it. Now, go to the talk page, and stop bothering me about this. 4TheWynne 02:02, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

dude i was wondering if i have your permission to move your article?Jg9443 (talk) 01:17, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

What do you mean? 4TheWynne 03:03, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

not trying to edit i am just asking dude.Jg9443 (talk) 10:51, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

look dude sorry again i get emotional is that i love this band i believe that they are punk rock and somtimes i admit that i could be a bit stubborn Jg9443 (talk) 23:55, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Jg9443 (talk · contribs), I've reverted your edits to other relevant pages where you've left your imprint, and although I left a message on your own talk page, you still choose to state your opinion wherever you want without presenting any sources, or any real evidence, and I would be changing that in a hurry if I were you. Otherwise, there's no point continuing this discussion. 4TheWynne 01:54, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Dude you said that i have to get evidence to prove that they are punk rock here it is help is on the way and i dont want to be here anymore and give it all i dont have the music videos to send you a link but i hope you seen the music video just like rise against famous punk rock bands talk and support animal and human rights just as anti flag ,minor threat, against me, nofx rise against and much more those are my evidence if you want you can look up political punk rock bands.Jg9443 (talk) 04:42, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

dude i have left something on your talk page i have got evidence.Jg9443 (talk) 22:09, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

just asking if i come up with a solution that my version of rise against in simple wikipedia if i can move it to your article and you can put your article in my simple wikipedia articleJg9443 (talk) 17:32, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

liam neeson

Why remove what i edited? It was incorrect before and now you have made it incorrect again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.223.234.58 (talk) 09:46, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Fast 8

Hello 4TheWynne! I redirected the page Fast 8 back to Furious 7 per WP:NFF. Please do not create the page again until the filming begins on the project. And if you want to contribute the page, please do so at Draft:Furious 8 until production begins. Thanks and I hope you understand. --Captain Assassin! 04:16, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Sure thing, I'll keep that in mind for next time. That's all good, so long as I can replace the information on the draft with the information that I added, and I was just in the process of adding some new information, so I'll be sure to add that as well. 4TheWynne 04:35, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for understanding the situation. Cheers :). --Captain Assassin! 14:11, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi again, Captain Assassin!. I have a question – now that there's been a set time and place for filming to begin (even though it's not until April) are we able to create the article now? This would save others attempting to create one or at least put in redlinks. Surely it wouldn't hurt to create the article when it's less than three months away – after all, it is more than just some "announced project". I think that we've done a good job preserving it. 4TheWynne 06:30, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes we've done a great work, especially you. But I'm sorry to say that we still cannot move the draft to mainspace because filming hasn't begun yet, we can just move one or two days before confirmed filming start date. And don't worry about other's attempting to create article, we'll still be able to move the draft. Just keep your eyes on the redirect and if someone tries to create, just keep redirecting it until we get a confirmed tart date. Cheers. --Captain Assassin! 17:17, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for your suggestions. I have gone to the talk pages of several Misplaced Pages pages already because of your help. I am now more firmilliar with editing on Misplaced Pages.

Thanks – Zackmadd (talk) 22:11, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

No problem. Just be sure to be more aware of everything else that goes on at Misplaced Pages, and not just edit at random because you think that you're doing the right thing every time. By that, I mean you should check out some of the site's policies and look particularly at how some of the more experienced editors here format their edits. That way, you'll have something to go by, should you choose to focus on a broader range of topics when editing here on Misplaced Pages. Hope that helps. 4TheWynne 11:05, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

It does help. I mainly edit band pages but do work on tv show pages too. I have been looking up policies. Talk pages have helped me the most. On a different note I would like to say good job on your Aspect band page. It is put together very well. Zackmadd (talk) 18:35, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you – it took me a while to format it the way I wanted it, but I'm glad that you like it. I've been getting that from several other editors as well, which is nice. 4TheWynne 12:15, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry dude i was just trying to help. I was trying to show more detail of the bands past history with demos, eps, etc. ill stop with doing the other releases and add more detail from now on. Sorry again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cameronsmiley2345qwerty (talk • contribs) 18:29, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Foo Fighters

Thanks for pointing out the need to source the Foo Fighters piece. Still learning, and glad to have constructive guidance. I reposted with a citation. Jordan Jones (talk) 12:28, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

No problem – you did well. Always happy to help. Regards, 4TheWynne 12:33, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

IV"e got evidence of rise against

I got the evidence that rise against is and should be rise against is an Chicago punk rock band because they are verry poltical like anti flag and sometime green day and also what it says on your text of rise against they are straight edge including Barnes and also tim mclrath supports animal rights.Jg9443 (talk) 20:39, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Let"s compromise

So it made me think that all that i have been doing is stating my opinion all the time and bothering you i felt at this time i wanted to compromise i will not change the genre i"ll keep it the way it is but like it says on your edit page of rise against Do not change the genre with providing resources well i got one that"s helpfull so how about this? Rise Against is a Chicago punk rock band on your Misplaced Pages and on my simple Misplaced Pages i"ll change it to Rise against is an american melodic hardcore band and lets be bygones be bygones.Jg9443 (talk) 17:56, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

So it made me think that all i have been doing is stating my opinion thees past 3 months and witch it says on the rise against edit page do not change the genre unless you have provided sources so i will not bother you or change the genre"s but this title of the article should be helpful so hear it goes instead of rise against is a american melodic hardcore band it should be rise against is a Chicago punk rock if you do that on your Misplaced Pages page i"ll change to rise against is american melodic hardcore band in my simple Misplaced Pages page lets be bygones be bygones.Jg9443 (talk) 01:56, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

I really got evidence

I really got evidence that they are not American punk rock or American melodic hardcore no they are a Chicago Punk rock band this is my proof At the Adelaide show, Chicago punk rockers Rise Against opened for the Foo ... 50 Rock Facts You May Not Know August 14, 2015 7:48 AM.Jg9443 (talk) 20:42, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

And also i almost forgot here"s the video to prove it https://www.punknews.org/article/53129/rise-against-historia-calamitatumJg9443 (talk) 20:50, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

I was wondering enough with the fighting enough me having to brother i was wondering if we can switch like i put my wikipedia simple english page of rise against and send it to your page and you can put a sub page just in case your asking if i really don"t have evidence i do i got the source everthing and to prove that rise against is a chicago punk rock band look it Chicago-based punk act has taken in some time.

Read more at http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/rise-againsts-the-black-market-cracks-u-sJg9443 (talk) 02:11, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

I included the link this time

I hope I'm doing this right. You deleted an edit I made for an actor's bio because I forgot to include the link. This time I included the link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.179.143.159 (talk) 02:06, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

I have reverted your edit again for two reasons: firstly, iMDB is not a reliable source, especially as it links directly to trivia, and secondly, it wasn't formatted properly. You can find out how to cite your sources here. Hope that helps. 4TheWynne 02:15, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Metallica/Guns N' Roses

I just saw you revert my changes in the Metallica article. I removed Guns N' Roses in the "associated acts" section because the members of Metallica were never members of Guns N' Roses. I thought "associated acts" is supposed to be "for closely interconnected bands, sharing two or more members, sharing album projects, or touring together as a single collaboration act", and none of the members of Metallica were ever members of Guns N' Roses, as a result, I reverted your changes. MetalDiablo666 (talk) 05:21, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

I reverted your edit because I perceived the addition of Guns N' Roses as a good one, due to the Guns N' Roses/Metallica Stadium Tour. I am very well aware that the two bands never shared any members, but the fact that it was such a huge collaboration was the reason why I didn't remove it in the first place. I'll leave it be, but if you understand it from my point of view, you'll keep that it mind for next time. 4TheWynne 05:51, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

The tour makes the addition valid, full stop. I agree with 4TheWynne. EauZenCashHaveIt (I'm All Ears) 12:44, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Just because bands tour together does not make them associated, they are not working together, just sharing a stage/venue. Mlpearc (open channel) 15:49, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

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Unwarranted reversion

Regarding your reversion to the edits on Dwayne Johnson...

1) Please do not do simple reverts on changes where multiple edits are made if you are meaning to only revert a single thing. You remove edits that have nothing to do with the change in question.

2) The relationship between Johnson and the Anoaʻi family is as well documented as just about anything. (As someone who claims to be a fan, it's odd that you would be unaware of this.) If you feel that this fact is disputable enough to warrant removal from Misplaced Pages, you will need to edit not only the Anoaʻi family article, but virtually every article for every member of that family...as they all mention Johnson as being part of that family tree. (Not to mention the "Relatives in wrestling" section on the Dwayne Johnson page itself).

I have added back the edits you reverted, as they are not at all controversial, and easily verified.

If you have an issue with their inclusion, please open a section for discussion on the appropriate talk page.

Thank you.

--Wikisian (talk) 23:17, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Wikisian, if it is "as well-documented as just about anything", surely that means that you can provide a source? 4TheWynne 23:37, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

I have again added back the changes you reverted (without explanation, by the way), this time including a few citations. You may now wish to update the other pages which all mention Dwayne Johnson being part of the Anoaʻi family tree with such citations, so that there will be no similar confusion in the future. This includes but is not limited to: Anoaʻi family, Roman Reigns, Peter Maivia, Lia Maivia, Rocky Johnson, Afa Anoaʻi, Sika Anoa'i, Reno Anoa'i, Yokozuna (wrestler), Rosey (wrestler), Sam Fatu, Umaga (wrestler), Rikishi (wrestler), Samula Anoaʻi, Afa Anoaʻi, Jr., Lloyd Anoaʻi, and The Usos.

Again, these are just a few of the places which mention the Miavia/Anoaʻi connection and name Dwayne Johnson as part of the Anoaʻi family tree. There may be others. So be mindful there may be more articles in need of update to avoid this issue occurring in the future. Do not be afraid to look for more.

If you have any further issues, I advise you to open a discussion on the appropriate talk page and refrain from edit warring. I would also remind you canvassing others to do your warring for you is also not allowed on Misplaced Pages. --Wikisian (talk) 01:07, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Wikisian, see? That wasn't so hard, was it? Now before you go baselessly accusing me of edit warring or asking others to do so for me (as I have taken no action since replying earlier), I would advise you to make the edits yourself, as this family tree business seems to be your area of expertise more than it is mine; indeed, I know little-to-nothing on the subject (but that doesn't make me any less of a fan). Don't go asking me to do all of the hard work for you, as I have no interest in updating countless pages with the citations that you added yourself; if you're so passionate about it, you should be the one putting in the time. 4TheWynne 01:39, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

James Spader Edit

You jut deleted one of my edits because you said it was poorly referenced or unrefernced work? Could you help me by letting me know what to fix? --Joshewuh2 (talk) 23:23, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Joshewuh2, three things:

• Grammatically, it could have been formatted better. Another thing to note is that commas and full stops go before the reference and not after.
• On Misplaced Pages, we tend to go by what reliable sources tell us, and most of the sources that you used weren't reliable.
• "Early life" sections are normally kept relatively short anyway.

Based on that, unless you can trim the information down and find some better sources to support your work, I would leave it how it is now. I know that you came here asking for help, but that's about as much as I can say. Thank you. 4TheWynne 23:37, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. I am working on the sources now. Early Life sections really don't have a max limit however and I am trying to balance out the sections! Thanks again for the help!! --Joshewuh2 (talk) 00:06, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Based on what you've added in response to my feedback, I'm not sure if you've even addressed what I've said to you. Another really important point worth adhering to that applies more to your "Personal Life" edits, one that I know you've been warned about before, is that your edits, especially in regards to a living (or deceased) person, have to adhere to a neutral point of view. I know that, with some work, some of your additions could be useful, except that most of it was trivial and, thus, doesn't belong on Misplaced Pages. This is encyclopaedic material that we're dealing with, so you need to be careful with what gets added and what doesn't.

Additionally, you don't need to tag me on my own talk page, as I'll always know what's going on, and you don't need to add your username after your signature (four tildes), hence why I've removed it – again. Hope that helps. 4TheWynne 06:31, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Natalie Portman --- terminology of lead para

Joshua, in you edit summary you wrote when reverting my edit to Natalie Portman you wrote --- ""Director" and "producer" are most often used in this context anyway.

I say that's bollocks, and since it is your contention you'll have to prove it before anybody should accept it. So go ahead and prove that "director" and "producer" are most often used in the context of motion picture films. Is the fact you are an actor by vocation a source of bias? Are you sure you're not insisting you are right and my edit needs to be reverted because your ego. Listen mate, I've worked in the advertising business for 30 years, and generally speaking actors have considerable egos that frequently get in the way of getting the job done. You look like yet another egotist to me. Prove your point is true, or you'll have to accept you're not right about everything you think you are. Arbo (talk) 08:22, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Excuse me? James Arboghast, listen, I'm more than willing to accept that I might have gotten something wrong, no problem at all – but you don't have to give me a message on the verge of a personal attack just to get your point across. I was just going by what I had seen across other articles; I had seen the listed occupations on other articles without the word "film" before them more often than I had seen the opposite. But where does this "egotist" stuff come from? And why does it have anything to do with the fact that I'm an actor? Please, explain yourself. 4TheWynne 09:03, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

I'll take back the personal remarks about you. Sorry, I was in a very bad mood. I'm happy to discuss actors and their egos with you but not at Misplaced Pages. Google me and you'll discover my public email address,; feel free to write to me. Nonetheless, as a Wikipedian you need to be aware that some of what you see in WP articles is really poor word-smithing and provides a bad example to go by. WP requires that we write for a general audience and not one or another particular "in crowd" eg: film buffs. "Director" could mean a company director at a mining company not connected in any way with the film business. A "producer" could be a theatrical producer working on Broadway or London's West End theater circuit. When you use those terms without reference to the industry you're writing about, you leave them open to interpretation by readers, many of who may have an alternative meaning or reference in mind. Arbo (talk) 16:04, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

I appreciate the apology, and the spiel (to an extent), but I'm afraid I'm going to have to decline the offer. I do have a thorough understanding of how this is all supposed to work, only nobody else seemed to have a problem before, which is why I went with it. Thank you, though. 4TheWynne 02:13, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Jobe Watson

Hey Just wondering why you seem to keep deleting my line on Jobe Watson's Page about the report into if he will keep his Brownlow? You seem to think it was an opinion. But there is a report into this, I left a Source as related to this. He has been banned for doping in the 2012 Season, the same season as he won his Brownlow. This would seem to be a good line to have on a page where people keep deleting his Brownlow. It would seem that your deleting of this line would be more biased then mine could ever be. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.33.168.193 (talk) 13:45, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

110.33.168.193, the way that you worded the sentence strongly indicated bias. For example, you continuously use the word "doping"; that is a matter of opinion. Otherwise, apart from poor spelling, grammar, and citing of the sourced material, it's poorly worded, which is why I couldn't keep it. I mean, where does the word "report" come from? I will, however, work on the material and improve the citing of sources in the morning, as I had already planned to go through the article and improve all of its sources. The other point that I would like to make is that there has been a lot of vandalism on this page (and other similar pages), particularly recently and in relation to this matter, which is why I tend to jump on the defensive every time this Brownlow issue comes up. 4TheWynne 14:35, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me. But Doping is not Bias. They took Performance Enhancing Drugs. That is the definition of Doping. Just because Doping sounds bad, doesn't mean that it should be deleted. The word "Report" comes from the word being used in the Media about this issue. Maybe the reason there is a lot of vandalism is because something like what I wrote wasn't on there because you both kept deleting it and then not replacing it with something you thought sounded more Professional. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.33.168.193 (talk) 23:46, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

The word "report" wasn't used in the article, and neither, for that matter, was "doping", so I don't see why it was necessary. Anyway, I've fixed the formatting of the source and the wording of the sentence to reflect what it says in the article, so we're done here. Once the AFL Commission meeting has taken place and there is more to say on the issue, then we can discuss further. 4TheWynne 07:20, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Rightio, You seem to think that using Doping is Bias. They were banned by the World Anti Doping Authority. Using the Word Doping isn't being Biased. But whatever. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.33.168.193 (talk) 01:15, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Doping is not Bias. Its the Word used to describe it. Id say having someone who says on their own Page that their favourite Player is Jobe Watson and there favourite team is Essendon, deleting words that don't give a good light to both Jobe Watson and Essendon would be a lot more biased then I could ever be. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basetornado (talk • contribs) 12:49, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Basetornado, I would say exactly the same thing if this issue surfaced for any other article – it just so happens that this issue revolves around Watson. Now, please stop making baseless and unwarranted accusations, and drop the issue. And remember to sign your comments using four tildes (~~~~), like I requested of you on your IP talk page only hours ago. You'll also need to brush up on your basic Misplaced Pages skills in order to understand where I'm coming from. 4TheWynne 13:00, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Why do you think Doping is Bias? I don't think this is baseless. Im trying to use the word that is used to describe literally any one else who has been found guilty of taking Performance Enhancing Substances, and you seem to think thats a Bias. It's a little bit strange, considering. Basetornado (talk) 13:55, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

I was referring to the accusations directed at me, which were baseless and unwarranted. Whether you agree that it was biased or not, it was an unnecessary addition, and the section has now been fixed. This is a non-issue, so please just let it go now. 4TheWynne 01:26, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Alice In Chains

Just because Jerry sang lead on a few songs, doesn't makes him a full-time lead singer. At least label it as "Vocals" instead of "Lead vocals", so it's unspecified.

My edit was not distruptive.

Thank you, 80sMetalHead (talk) 13:49, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

re: Hayden Christensen

On December 3oth you left a message with my IP: "Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Misplaced Pages about living (or recently deceased) persons, as you did to Hayden Christensen.". My response is as follows: Please do not criticize individual article contributors when those contributors are correct in making edits. If you have any knowledge of the concept of "Canadian-American" vs the concept of "American-Canadian" you would have realized that the edit I made to the "Hayden Christensen" article was correct. Please stick to policing articles that you have at least a small bit of knowledge about.

Robert Downey Jr.

I've edited down the section about Wing Chun on Downeys page but it still get deleted... This is information from various media sources even Oprah windfrey had a special segment about this filming him in the wing chun dojo with Eric Oram. Robert Downey Jr is is the inspiration of all wing chun practitioners around the world his interview on Oprah and letterman about his training has gotten over 100,000 views in less than 5 months on youtube. The heading "friendship with Mel Gibson" is not nearly as relevant as Downeys Wing Chun training and relationship with his master Eric Oram. Yes Mel Gibson is Australian as is user 4TheWynne fine but don't delete relevant content Australianblackbelt (talk) 13:04, 28 January 2016 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Australianblackbelt (talk • contribs) 00:58, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Australianblackbelt, excuse me? And that is relevant how? Like I said, this information doesn't look like information that belongs on an encyclopaedia. The information needs to be encyclopaedic, regardless or whether it's sourced or not. 4TheWynne 13:33, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Downeys personal life heading his Wing Chun Kung fu training is very relevant its mentioned already but it is not enough. How is Mel Gibson's friendship more relevant that his Wing Chun training which extends into his professional career. This has been stated talked about and written in media more than enough. Australianblackbelt (talk) 00:37, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

I can guarantee you that I won't be the last to write a brief paragraph on Downeys wing chun training... The wing chun community world wide is becoming extremely large and Downey is our idol like is Bruce Lee. Your going to have to keep deleting like you did my work, good luck with that I hope you resolve whatever personal problems you have regarding this. Australianblackbelt (talk) 12:20, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

You most certainly will be. And I'd like to see you try. 4TheWynne 12:33, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

You'd like to see me try? is that encouragement or you being childish? I hope its encouragement. Here you go these are the references on Oram and Downey's profecional relationship http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/The-Comeback-Kid http://www.mensfitness.com/life/entertainment/robert-downey-jr-he-was-skinny http://m.tmz.com/#article/2015/12/25/robert-downey-pardon-kung-fu-eric-oram/ http://www.mensjournal.com/magazine/robert-downey-jr-s-cosmic-punishment-20121017 http://www.mensfitnessmagazine.com.au/2012/08/holmes-improvement-2/ http://m.fightland.vice.com/blog/how-wing-chun-helped-robert-downey-jr-battle-addiction Maproom Why not write about Oram and Downey's Wing Chun training (Australianblackbelt (talk) 00:02, 12 May 2016 (UTC))

Australianblackbelt, look, I understand why you're doing this, but this certainly isn't the place to discuss the matter. Go to Downey Jr's talk page if the issue lies specifically with this article. Aimlessly (and I use this term loosely) badgering me about it isn't going to get you anywhere. Please heed my advice. 4TheWynne 13:34, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

I recently made an edit to the RDJ page where I listed him as an "actor and singer" and you had said that I had made a disruptive edit. Downey Jr. has sang in many projects and has even released an album, so I don't believe that I made any disruptive edits to the page. (ChristianJosephAllbee (talk) 02:18, 5 June 2016 (UTC))

ChristianJosephAllbee, just because Downey released one album and made a few appearances in songs (while doing his television work, mind you), that doesn't make "singer" and "musician" main occupations of his. There was a similar issue at Hugh Jackman's article a few months back. My suggestion would be to go to Downey's talk page and discuss the best course of action there, like with Jackman. I went down the "disruptive" route because I've given you warnings before. 4TheWynne 02:32, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Russell Crowe

Stop criticising unconditionally. If you are unhappy that a change is not sourced to your satisfaction help me put it right. B. Fairbairn (talk) 04:54, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

B. Fairbairn, OK, at least you're willing to work together. I was just looking through trying to fix it, however, when I noticed that the source that you provided links to a video. You need to find a proper news article which will support the information that you have implemented. I'm afraid that I'll have to remove it again until you can provide a reliable source which fits this description, which shouldn't be too hard to find. Linking to a video won't be able to cut it. 4TheWynne 05:04, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your cooperation. Source has been added. Refers to article and image showing Russell at the 2014 grand final. B. Fairbairn (talk) 05:14, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

I'll leave Nadal alone even though the only thing he is a threat to are his fingers just prior to serving. B. Fairbairn (talk) 05:14, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

In regards to Crowe, I was just doing my job. In regards to Rafael Nadal, leave your opinions out of this. 4TheWynne 05:16, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

RE:

I said I was sorry. I didn't know. Don't make a mountain out of a molehill- assume good faith.--Valkyrie Red (talk) 08:01, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Valkyrie Red, "Soz" is not an apology. And you reverted me straight after – I'll bet if I hadn't given you a warning (followed by a second), then the story would be very different. I'm not going to assume good faith unto anyone who chooses to be a genre warrior. 4TheWynne 08:09, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

What happened was I reverted you before you had posted your message on my talk page. When I saw that, I realized that you had a good reason for the revertion, and so I went to revert my own edit, but by that point you had already reverted my second revert and that's what lead to this situation now. It was ultimately a misunderstanding.--Valkyrie Red (talk) 08:15, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I can see that now. And I understood that you've dabbled in genres before, which is why I wanted to make sure that you took my message on board. Next time, please think twice before reverting someone's revert without discussion. Everyone here wants to try and make this place better and ultimately more civil, I'm sure. Thank you. 4TheWynne 09:00, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Cody Walker Page

I saw your edits on my edits about Cody Walker, where you mentioned that I did not reference properly. I was actually providing additional information on his background, which i later referenced based on his brother's. I don't proofs always have to be from the horse's mouth. I believe the background of David could work for Cody, since it is shared.

And then, you talked about me thinking before typing next time (or something like that), a statement I do not find particularly necessary. You questioned my intentions and I would tell you now: There is a bigger error or Furious 7, and I can not correct that until I make enough edits. That is one. Another is that I just want to contribute more.

Enough said.

Topefabusola (talk) 12:38, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Topefabusola, this did not look like something that belonged on the page, particularly when you look at the wording and not just the referencing itself. I don't mind the fact that the reference itself might refer to Paul Walker because the article was written with him in mind or something, but actually writing about it as though it was about Paul specifically (and not Cody, the subject of the article), regardless of notability, was incorrect, and it wasn't "shared". I just thought it was so bizarre that I removed it, as I didn't really know what it was. And I don't see anybody else complaining, so I'll let you decide what's "particularly necessary" and what's not. 4TheWynne 13:16, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Metallica

Hey man. Just pinged you as you have been involved with the reverting. Cheers Robvanvee 16:14, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Band members section

"... the infobox policy does not affect the band members section." Why shouldn't it? I would like to open a discussion on this; do you know where I can bring this up? dannymusiceditor 21:12, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I can't help you, even if I wanted to. I neither have the time nor patience to be dealing with more amendments or additions to policy. I put in this particular invisible note on countless pages some time ago, so without being biased, if I were you, I would just leave it how it is. 4TheWynne 21:55, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Who said you had to contribute to the discussion? If you don't want to take part, that's okay; I'll let others. I just wanted to know where I could open a discussion. dannymusiceditor 21:05, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

And I said that I can't help you; that is, I wouldn't know where to start either. I'm sure you'll be able to find something, but personally, I don't see why this particular format needs to be changed. The band members and timeline complement each other this way. 4TheWynne 21:48, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Desist from editing without being sure

Probably you did not watch Furious 7. If you did, you would know there was no Somalian mercenary in that film. I would advise you to get your facts straight before editing next time. That was how you kept deleting information I added to Cody Walker's page, even though it was obviously right, as confirmed by his brother. I don't know what you think you are doing, but editing and removing facts from an encyclopaedia is base. Please, be wise.Topefabusola (talk) 16:18, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

By the way, I will be returning it as I last edited. I advise you to watch the film again before editing.Topefabusola (talk) 16:20, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

I just added a reference from the wikia website. If that do not suffice, watch the film. One more thing: Jakande is a name that exclusively belongs to The Yoruba Race that dwells predominantly in Nigeria, West Africa - A Race I belong to. Like I said earlier, get your facts straight. You are so much far from being a know-all - farther than you could ever imagine.Topefabusola (talk) 16:37, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Topefabusola, read the message I left on your talk page. This is still original research, and the information that you presented came from an unreliable source. Any Wiki can be edited by just about anyone, and if this site didn't have any reliable sources, then it makes the site itself just as unreliable. And this has got nothing to do with what country or race you might come from. I would advise you to get your facts straight next time. 4TheWynne 22:10, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Fast 8 article

Hey 4TheWynne! Thanks for adding content from the Draft:Fast 8, but it was not a right way to create article (by copy-pasting). You should've told me first, and I would've ask an admin to move the draft to mainspace. But no worries, please do not further edit the mainspace article, so an admin can move the draft easily. Thanks man. --Captain Assassin! 02:46, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Hello! The draft is moved now, you can contribute the article freely. Thanks for your contributions to Misplaced Pages. --Captain Assassin! 09:47, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Sorry about all of the confusion – I'll keep that in mind for next time. Don't worry, I've already made several edits to the page since it was moved, but thanks anyway. And thanks for giving me a bit of freedom in expanding the article, and in general for helping me out. With regards, 4TheWynne 10:05, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

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WADA substance controversy in Sharapova's page

Hello. Hi. I notice that you erase some contain inside the article section, which is some statement from Boxer Carl Frampton and Doubles tennis player Kristina Mladenovic regarding with Sharapova's doping scandal. May I know the reason why?. It is very important that their statement about Sharapova is also reliable for the page and do not erasing that. Sharapova's profile must be real and although perhaps she's your favorite player but we are editor and must do a fair work?. Do you understand that?. Thank you. Politsi (talk) 08:24, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

I don't understand half of what you're saying, so I'm just going to say this: this is not an issue that concerns me alone, so I would use the talk page if you wanted to get your point across. There was nothing unfair or untoward about my intentions – are you just disappointed because the contributions that were removed were yours? Anyway, my suggestion would be to go to the talk page. I hope it's nothing personal. 4TheWynne 08:31, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Sorry for my bad english. I'm not speak with that language. and yes I'm disappointed because the contributions that were removed were mine. But now that section is good actually and please maintain it. Sharapova is really a cheat player but she's hot as hell. Politsi (talk) 10:09, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Excuse me? I'm sorry, but your opinions of Sharapova as a player and person are completely irrelevant to all of this. Now I'm actually starting to question your intentions related to this matter. 4TheWynne 10:13, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

I just collected any reference and comment about Sharapova's doping scandal from her fellow tennis players and I found out, that all of them saying her as a cheat tennis player. Most of Meldonium using case is happens on Russian athletes. I just show from what I saw. Sharapova is a cheat as her fellow Russian athletes and she deserve to be punished. That remark should be include on her Biopage.Politsi (talk) 11:07, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

What you're saying still doesn't sway me. In fact, you weren't just collecting "any reference(s) and comment(s)", you were collecting what appears to be the harshest ones which seem to support what you just presented to me (which to me looks like your opinion, which is not relevant). I would just wait and see if you get a reply on the talk page; if not, I would leave this issue alone. 4TheWynne 11:15, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Whatever source I collect regarding Sharapova's doping scandal, which is a harsh thing or not?. It's a fact!. And I take that from a reliable source, not from my personal perspective. I know how you feel Wynee.. since you're mention on your profile that she's is your favorite tennis player, but come on!. If the fact revealed she's a cheat. Then so be it!. And leave the WADA substance controversy in Sharapova's page in current condition. It looks good although some statement inside has been remove. Politsi (talk) 11:38, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

What you should have been able to take from this is that it has nothing to do with how I feel towards her, either, and that it hasn't influenced the way that I have gone about this. I was going to leave the section in its current state anyway, so we're done here. 4TheWynne 11:49, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Rise Against editor

Hey. Thanks for notifying me of Jg9443 block evasion. I've got the talk page of Rise Against on my watchlist, so I should usually catch him every time, but please, any time you catch someone who looks like a sockpuppet of his, by all means, let me know and I'll look into it.

As a side note, I don't think you have to worry about him escalating things. If you look closely at this edit, you'll see that he's not actually at WP:ANI or WP:AN, but rather, he's trying to report us at WP:ADMIN, which is the basic policy/definition page explaining what Admin do. Basically, I don't think he has the WP:COMPETENCY to even file a report, and if he did, there's no way he'd present anything actionable, because he's completely on the wrong side of policy. FYI. Sergecross73 msg me 12:44, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

No worries. And I'm not worried – I was just making a point that the editor was really trying to escalate the situation into something far worse. I know that, had someone seen his message, nothing bad would have come out of it for anybody but himself... but it just would have been embarrassing. 4TheWynne 12:48, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Fiennes family

You are right to revert, because I forgot to give my reference! The present reference is a dead link. Clifford Mill (talk) 04:13, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

And just so we're clear...

I thought I'd point out that I wasn't so much "retaliating" as responding. Checkingfax begins the discussion by templating me with a warning of immediate blocking (1. After I point out that not only is the template the wrong one to use but that its also rude, and to not template the regulars, the contributor does it again less than three hours later{2}. My conversations with Sundayclose have all been of the type to dismantle the rhetoric. I thought you might want to know the background a little bit better. -Jack Sebastian (talk) 13:22, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

@Jack Sebastian: I would agree that your message on my talk page was directed at "dismantling the rhetoric". But if you refer to your comments directed toward me at Talk:Natalie Portman, I must strongly disagree. If anything, those comments for the most part escalated the rhetoric. Sundayclose (talk) 16:16, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

What's more, I never actually said where you left those messages. And don't worry – I was already aware of the discussions that were taking place via user talk pages. I had to play catch-up a little bit to read the whole discussion initially, but I have a pretty good understanding of the issue. 4TheWynne 00:31, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Simon Duggan

Thanks for the message. I have added the citation as requested. I could have used a number of pages as citations but wasn't sure which one was best. Anyway, new to this, thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcunningham.melb (talk • contribs) 04:11, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Jcunningham.melb, throwing in a URL for a personal site doesn't constitute a reliable source. Use the link that I have provided (both here and in your warnings) to find out how to cite sources properly. Thank you. 4TheWynne 05:18, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

I have updated the citation source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcunningham.melb (talk • contribs) 06:57, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Jcunningham.melb, it still isn't a reliable, third-party source (nor is it correctly cited, for that matter), but for the sake of avoiding going back and forth, I'll leave it be unless someone else disagrees. One thing I would like to let you know, lastly, is that when you post a comment somewhere, you need to sign your comments using four tildes (~~~~). Hopefully that will help for in the future. 4TheWynne 07:05, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Liam Neeson

Please desist from removing referenced material on the Liam Neeson page. 37.228.205.224 (talk) 15:47, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

37.228.205.224, I've lost count of the amount of times that you've been asked to take this discussion to the talk page. Clearly you are completely oblivious as to why I (and several others) have been removing this information. Please go to the talk page and discuss the issue properly like every other editor. 4TheWynne 20:38, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Hugh Jackman

I am aware of the guidelines as I was posting material on a talk page of an actor that was sourced. Nobody bothered to. You made a mistake. Most people on wikipedia do not research. Majinsnake (talk) 08:04, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Majinsnake, I don't really understand what you're talking about. In the end, the edit that you made, about some WWE incident, sourced or not, was trivial, so I removed it. End of story. 4TheWynne 11:13, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

If were trivial, it would not have been sourced by multiple sources. When did it become "end of story"?. You say that because you refuse to see what valid information given to you. That is how most people on Misplaced Pages are that I have come across. I have seen some sites that say Dolph Ziggler's jaw was broken, and others say it was false. Perhaps, that is where your word "trivial" comes into play. Either way, it should still be acknowledged on either the wrestler's page or Hugh Jackman's. Probably the wrestler's. I am pretty sure I left something on that talk-page, but it was removed. I have had numerous people removed my contributions that were valid. I feel like saying why bother contributing things that are valid, if they are just going to be removed? You are the person left this on my talk-page. "If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you' Therefore, I responded to yours. I expected a detailed response from you considering you left that message on my talk-page. Majinsnake (talk) 06:57, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Majinsnake, you just answered your own question – twice. If "that is how most people on Misplaced Pages are that you have come across", then perhaps they are telling you something. Perhaps your interpretation of what is valid and what is trivial is different to those of more experienced editors. In the end, that is all that it comes down to. I most certainly do not "refuse to see what valid information given to me" – that's just not always what I get. Anyway, I'm not going to stop you if you decide to implement it on Dolph Ziggler's page, but if someone else does, then I hope you understand why. Thank you. 4TheWynne 11:13, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Fall Out Boy

Sorry about that. I didn't know that it needs to be discussed. I moved the sources for pop to the musical style and influences section so that the infobox looks more clear. EuropeanSwedenAmerican2222 (talk) 00:45, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Saosin

It was shown that Pat McGrath from Prototype was session drummer for Saosin's first EP, Translating the Name, which came out 2003. I edited both pages so it is aware that Pat did play drums but if there is gonna be little editing to either page, make sure not to remove either band from both wiki pages, thanks. 321rematch (talk) 01:52, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

321rematch, for reasons explained in my edit summaries, neither are associated acts with each other, as Magrath wasn't a full member for Saosin, not was he a full member for Prototype at the time. He left the band about a year earlier. 4TheWynne 03:42, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Fast 8

On 7 May 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fast 8, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in keeping with the The Fast and the Furious franchise's penchant for filming in "exotic" locations, such as Dubai and Rio de Janeiro, Fast 8 is filming in Cuba? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fast 8. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Fast 8), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 13:38, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

May 2016

What are you talking about? Pmaster12 (talk) 00:51, 19 May 2016 (UTC) I'm not disruptive editing. I'm putting a source indicating that a cast member is associated with that particular subject. Pmaster12 (talk) 00:57, 19 May 2016 (UTC) It's been a lot of false edits and rumors going on. That's why I tried to put a source on it. Pmaster12 (talk) 00:57, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Pmaster12, as explained in my edit summary, I had already sourced Pataky's addition to the cast further below, in the "Casting" section. The only reason why I went down the "disruptive" path is because the source that you added was in Spanish but did not include the language parameter, and because the addition of the nickname "Mr Nobody" has been removed several times. 4TheWynne 01:41, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

What I'm saying is that even it's spanish but it's related to the subject. I also I thought that source you put violates the guidelines of wikipedia but that's another discussion for another day. Anyways, the character is obviously known as Mr. Nobody at this moment of time until the next one next year. You can do your research on that. Pmaster12 (talk) 18:52, 19 May 2016 (UTC) You can put two names with a / between the two. Pmaster12 (talk) 18:56, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Pmaster12, Instagram itself is used quite often as a source, along with Twitter. And don't give me, "the character is obviously known as Mr. Nobody at this moment of time until the next one next year". The character was most often sourced as Frank Petty outside of Misplaced Pages prior to the release of Furious 7, and Mr Nobody is nothing more than a nickname, even if it was used more often than the character's actual name. For example, this is why Dwayne Johnson's character isn't credited simply as "Hobbs" on Misplaced Pages, because that would simply be wrong. Anyway, I did my research long ago, so I would advise you to watch your tone. 4TheWynne 04:44, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

First of all, your answer is exactly what proves my point. That's why I have ] . Some sources are reliable on twitter but not always. It depends on if the tweet is specific and if it's not it's not trustworthy at all. Second of all, Exactly it's a nickname that's what he's called right now. It is what is. Just because their sources outside of Misplaced Pages doesn't mean the name could or would not change. That's why at the moment is why he credited by that nickname until otherwise which it's next year. Third of all, NO you watch your tone. I've been nothing but trying to have a conversation which was started by you accusing me of disruptive editing which I don't understand where that coming from. I believe I know what doing to some degree. So I'm telling you, it's alright to disagree but don't try to make this into a debate or some sort of back and forth because I don't think you want to go that route trust me. I know my intentions when I'm here and not disrupting anything. That's it. Pmaster12 (talk) 09:46, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Well hopefully this settled and we can move forward but meanwhile have a nice day. Pmaster12 (talk) 09:57, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Linkin Park

Linkin Park is recording a new album, although it is yet to be announced, can you put TBA (2016) for their discography 321rematch (talk) 04:18, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

321rematch, TBA's aren't allowed in discography sections, so no, I will not. 4TheWynne 09:44, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Okay thanks for letting me know. I wasn't aware. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 321rematch (talk • contribs) 05:29, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Fall out boy genres

On the fall out boy Misplaced Pages page the genres use to be: Pop punk, pop rock, alternative rock and pop, which were not added by me. You removed alternative rock and pop and added emo. While I do agree fall out boy is an emo band, I also believe alternative rock and pop should be included in the genre listing. Please let me know what you think. Bobsouth3596 (talk) 22:23, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Bobsouth3596, this is not about what I, you, or anyone else thinks, or what the section used to look like previously. You need to provide reliable sources to support your additions, as it is a very sensitive issue, and you have failed to do so thus far. As a result, because I've already left a warning on your talk page and you have failed to notice it, I've reported you for genre warring. 4TheWynne 23:06, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Warcraft box office

Since it's a box office section and we’re talking in terms of box office and not dictionary and geography “domestic” here connotes to both the U.S. and Canada. We take all the box office informations and data from Rentak (which also joins the U.S. and Canada together), and how can we just right US when the source from which the informations are acquired mentions both the US and Canada. Thats sort of like misleading right?!! I mean anyone in the movie industry probably knows that and I don't know why you would want to wage an argument and discussion about this. I'm not trying to be mean bit it's like I said 2+2=4 and u say 3. This not coming from me but Rentrak and Box Office Mojo and probably every single box office tracking sites ok. So at the end of the day if we write just US when the source is also inculcating dates from Canada, that would just be wrong and bias. Josephlalrinhlua786 (talk) 09:11, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Josephlalrinhlua786, I already said that I understand this. I went onto your talk page and apologised and admitted to being wrong, and you give me, "I don't know why you would want to wage an argument and discussion about this". Where did that come from? I think you need to watch your tone, full stop. 4TheWynne 10:26, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry too. :) now let's spread some love — Preceding unsigned comment added by Josephlalrinhlua786 (talk • contribs) 11:30, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Not much of an apology (wasn't even signed, so I had to do it for you), and I don't see how you can just switch it on and switch it off like that. But I'm willing to move past this, seeing as there's nothing to discuss. 4TheWynne 13:53, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Metallica genre

Look, the reason why I am editing Metallica so much is because they are a thrash metal band, not a heavy metal band. I mean, they were apart of the big four of thrash metal. Hopefully you can understand why I am editing Metallica's genres. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Killea (talk • contribs) 01:11, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Killea, you can't just change the genre without discussing first. You should go to the talk page to do that. In this case, we tend to be less specific, and you have already been told that the thrash metal information is mentioned further down in the section and in the infobox, so arguing would be pointless. 4TheWynne 01:18, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

promo

so josh, oh the mistakes with you, 17 years old, just a boy, just a boy and a editor of wikipedia Double Impact '91 (talk) 07:21, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Double Impact '91, I don't understand what you're trying to say. I've reported you because you were editing disruptively and violating WP:BLP policies, nothing more. What is talking about my user page going to achieve? 4TheWynne 07:29, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I've blocked this user and his IPs, so perhaps that will stop the harassment. --Kinu /_c 07:32, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, Kinu. I wasn't expecting someone to react so quickly. I've also sent thanks on one of your edits. 4TheWynne 07:34, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Liam Neeson nationality

I saw your change to Liam Neeson and your post on the IP address user´s talk page.

The fact is Liam Neeson has consistently referred to himself as Irish, is known internationally as an Irish actor who happens to be from Northern Ireland where being Irish is recognised under the Good Friday Agreement just as it is in the rest of Ireland, Irishness is also a nationality not just an ethnicity,

Can you explain your rationale by your "warning" how any of that is "controversial" and "defamatory", because to be quite honest, maybe you are a new user or used the wrong template, but nevertheless that warning to the anonymous IP was ridiculous. Tyrsóg (talk) 13:49, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Tyrsóg, this might come as a surprise to you, but I'm actually quite sick of reverting these edits; I actually think that all of those are good enough reasons to put him simply as an Irish actor, as you and seemingly everyone else has been suggesting over the last year or so. However, I'm doing my duty here by following a very strict consensus, and that's not to put "Irish" without adding several reliable sources and establishing a new consensus first. You are quite entitled to your opinion, but I am by no means a new user. Perhaps if you care so much, it should fall to you to begin the discussion on this matter and put forward a reasonable argument. 4TheWynne 23:07, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for remind me

I open for any input, critics and advice. Thank you Politsi (talk) 08:40, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Band members order

Hey there. I noticed your revert on my edit on the order of band members. The order is meant to be by date joined and is indeed the correct way of doing it, despite the note you added. This was brought up a while back in a discussion, here, and was decided to order it by date joined, rather than instrumentation. Thanks. Sekyaw (talk) 00:18, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

A heads-up in the initial edit would have been better, Sekyaw. I was actually involved in that same discussion early on, but did not know that it had reached that conclusion. And I didn't actually say or indicate in any way that I added the note, just that I was following it. Anyway, thanks for letting me know. 4TheWynne 05:25, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

My apologies, 4TheWynne. I assumed you added the note from this section I noticed on your talk page, User talk:4TheWynne#Band members section, where you said you added a note on many pages. But, if it wasn't you who added it on this one or if that note was for some other situation, I'm sorry for assuming so. Have a nice day! Sekyaw (talk) 12:01, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Chloë Grace Moretz editing

I only corrected the misspelling in IPA pronunciation. The accent symbol goes before the stressed syllable, i.e. in this case before -retz, like in veracity /və ˈræs ət |i/ (this is from Longman Pronunciation Dictionary). If I got it wrong, explain me the reason. I'm confused. Thank you very much, PaoloZ (talk) 11:11, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

I found another one: morale /mə ˈrɑːl/ PaoloZ (talk) 11:16, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

May I ask you if you undone more than one of my contributions, and which ones? PaoloZ (talk) 11:29, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

PaoloZ, relax. I haven't reverted any more of your edits, just the one. If I had to put a reason to why I thought it was correct the first time, I'd say it's due to typical American pronunciation, which supports the original pronunciation (which has gone unchallenged for ages) rather than the amended one. I could be completely wrong, but regardless, I would have thought that the best course of action would have been to bring it up on the talk page and discuss there. 4TheWynne 12:12, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, but when I wrote accent symbol I meant the symbol to express the stressed vowel. The convention in IPA to express the stressed syllable is to put an apostrophe before the stressed syllable, not before the stressed vowel. In this case we have two syllables Mo- and -retz, not Mor- and -etz. This is a minor issue. It's like a correction in misspelling its with or without the apostrophe. The type of correction I'm doing all the time in every Misplaced Pages project. If you need I write it on the Talk page I will do it, but if I have to discuss every correction I make on Misplaced Pages I will cease to do it. Sorry, but if before Misplaced Pages was too control-free, now if I want to make a contribution, I have to do so much paperwork. PaoloZ (talk) 13:35, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Avril Lavigne

Ive already gave the reference/site before edit.So how im getting block?Unless im stating false fact without giving a reference/site then wiki may block me.Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Undermypotema (talk • contribs) 10:12, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Undermypotema, the first reference that you added (one that was supposed to link to Billboard) was a dead URL, but the second was completely unnecessary (I also removed the image that it was seemingly linked to, which was added without discussion), and I'm not even sure why it would belong there. I deemed it to be disruptive – I've seen that you've been warned about this kind of thing before, and clearly English isn't your first language (or else you've got some serious grammar problems) just going by your message alone, so perhaps you aren't quite ready to edit Misplaced Pages yet. 4TheWynne 11:14, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

FOB

Ohhh. Thanks for the wake-up call. In that case, would you mind fixing the band members table to reflect that? I butcher them every time. dannymusiceditor 02:34, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Re your edit to User talk:Alice Lascurain...

...and also your edit summary at Talk:Jeremy Renner...
Yes, of course I know that I could have just reverted Alice Lascurain's request?post? without an explanation but then she wouldn't have learned anything about how to use Misplaced Pages. And I am not sure her post was an attempt to promo something or a fan type of attempt to perhaps try to contact Mr. Renner...for all I know it could have been a genuine effort to add credible information to the article with a language barrier getting in the way (yes, yes,...probably not but it is possible...) And, seeing as how this was her first edit to Misplaced Pages, I decided that a response on the talk page she posted to was appropriate.
By the way, is there any particular reason you use Level 2 Warnings as the first communication on user talk pages with only one edit like you did on Alice Lascurain's & User talk:171.96.125.39? Shearonink (talk) 14:57, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Shearonink, thanks for bringing this up. My short answer to your first stance is that I think a lot of experienced Misplaced Pages editors are far too lenient sometimes on new users who come to Misplaced Pages and use it for the wrong reasons, which is what I thought was the case when you didn't revert the edit to Renner's talk page. I thought – and this might be an unpopular opinion, I don't know – that it was an obvious disruptive edit, but I thought because of this user's word choices, ignoring the possible language barrier (from my experience, it also doesn't guarantee that this user is necessarily female because of her username), it could have been a possible promo. It was certainly closer to that than "a genuine effort to add credible information to the article". This ties into my answer to your second stance – normally when I see a new IP/user make an edit, whether it be their first, second, third, tenth, etc., and there isn't already a warning on their talk page or it hasn't been created yet, I decide on the severity of the warning (if I need to give one) based on the severity of the edit. 70% of the time, I give a Level 1 warning, because it's not a huge deal; 25% of the time, I give a Level 2 warning because I get the nagging feeling that the user isn't here to make proper contributions to Misplaced Pages (which is how I felt on this occasion, hence the Level 2 warning); and the other 5%, when I give a Level 3 or higher, is when it is dead obvious. I hope I have answered your questions as best as I can to your liking. Thanks. 4TheWynne 22:09, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Well, I made the choice to not revert their edit. I answered their post as best I could figure it out, and left the content visible to the general readership - maybe they were a troll, maybe they were a little kid who loves Jeremy Renner and wanted to do something funny, but at least they would have been given an answer. I do get your point about fighting vandalism - it is an unending task - but if you had a problem with my contribution at the talk page, I wish you had mentioned your deletion on my User talk. Heh, besides, I think "lenient" might be a misnomer when it comes to my Warning-style and interactions with possible vandals. When it seems obvious to me I will sometimes skip Level 1 and go straight to a level 2 or even a 3. I'll give out a Level 4 if the vandalism is absolutely obvious/disgusting & to a WP:BLP etc. & if warranted make a quick report to a noticeboard. I just remember what WP was like to me when I first started, how absolutely overwhelming it was (and lol still is sometimes) so I try to think AGF first and then Hammer-down second. In the past I have removed an experienced editor's contributions on a WP talk page but always drop them a note on their User talk to let them know how/why/what (even if it is a housekeeping type of action). We're basically in agreement on the generalities of fighting vandalism, just in this case I am in disagreement with you about the specifics. But that's cool. Thanks for the reply, Shearonink (talk) 00:05, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Hardwired

Have you considered leaving the genre field empty until reviews come out? We can't add genre based on one song from twelve, so I suggest to wait for critics' opinion on that.--Retrohead (talk) 12:31, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Retrohead, I have indeed, but why then was the field being reverted back to just having thrash metal? I think, for the time being, it should either have both (consistent with previous albums, as alluded to before), or neither. I don't mind, personally, but I think something is better than nothing. 4TheWynne 12:39, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

My point was that the article can't feature unreferenced content. If someone wants to add genre, let him provide a source. Copying the genres from Death Magnetic is not the best solution.--Retrohead (talk) 12:47, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

again really!?

metallica did a hard rock album and a alternative metal album so they did music from that genres Norschweden (talk) 13:34, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Norschweden, that is correct, but that does not make them a hard rock or alternative rock band. This isn't just something that you can add without discussing first, and I left a message within my warning on your talk page giving you instructions. You really need to stop this behaviour – if you continue to repeatedly ignore and/or delete my warnings and just add genres as you will, then I will report you to administrators for genre warring, again. 4TheWynne 14:14, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

it makes them a band with the genres hard rock and alternative metal Norschweden (talk) 14:26, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Norschweden, stop being difficult to work with. Either discuss on the talk page, or leave the issue alone. Choose the unmentioned third option and I'm not sure if the administrators who saw the previous case will be as lenient. 4TheWynne 22:50, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

who is difficult here? the genre of a band is the genre of their music ind if they did more than two styles of music, they have more than two genres, there is nothing to diskuss Norschweden (talk) 01:07, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

@Norschweden: Your comment above couldn't be more incorrect, it is completely possible for a Thrash metal band to release a Pop Rock song/album, for example, Van Halen is Hard Rock / Heavy Metal but Jump is Pop rock & Glam metal, so thinking that a band can only release songs and/or albums within the bands genre is absurd. Mlpearc (open channel) 01:49, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

a glam rock song doesn't make them a glam rock band, but a band that played glam rock, so one of the genres they played is glam rock Norschweden (talk) 02:28, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Norschweden, but that part of the infobox isn't just a list of every single genre that a band has ever played or dabbled in. The genres listed are the band's main genres – in Metallica's case, heavy metal and thrash metal. Nice and simple. Adding anything more will make it complicated and, to an extent, inaccurate. Please drop the issue. 4TheWynne 03:34, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

not every single, but when they do two albums in one genre it should be in the infobox Norschweden (talk) 04:36, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Vin Diesel

Hello 4TheWynne,

I came here to argue that my edit on Vin Diesel's filmography section is neither "unconstructive" nor "disruptive". Vin Diesel is an actor and also a producer, having produced nearly half of the films he stars in. To reflect that, it makes sense to edit his filmography wikitable the way I did. The way it is right now, now that you've reverted my edit, it's unclear, unorganized and ugly to look at, with "Producer" written in half of the Notes section. It is modeled similarly to filmographies of other filmmakers who assume multiple jobs (actor/director/producer/writer), e.g. George Clooney, Kevin Smith, Judd Apatow, George Lucas, the list goes on. Of course it's not necessary for e.g. actors who produced one or two movies by the side... But for someone like Diesel who produced 15 of the ca. 30 films he starred in, it's absolutely necessary to portray it the way I did, instead of writing "Producer" next to half of his films.

You could argue that columns for "Director" and "Writer" may not be necessary because he only directed/wrote three films. We could make a compromise and I could leave out those columns. But I insist on having a seperate "Producer" column. --Invader Phantom (talk) 15:14, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Invader Phantom, that's perfectly fine – I just didn't think that having all of the other columns was necessary, hence "Unnecessary". You could throw in the separate "Producer" column, but how would that look without the other two? Would it look just as messy – is it something that can be compromised? I don't have a problem with the idea, because I'm well aware of the amount of films that he has had a hand in producing. Just something to think about. 4TheWynne 22:42, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

The use of talk-pages

The use of talk-pages are ment to be for improving of the articles. But hold your horses before erasing everything that you may think is too short. In the case of Ralph Fiennes - I ment that in Schindler's List does he show that he can master playing a tyrant. In Coriolanus does he portray proudness itself, in In Bruges is it gangster-related madness and in The Constant Gardner sadness. The lines I wrote at the talk-page (in fewer words) was ment for those who possibly have watched all these films, and they aimed for others to attempt to improve the article. This type of short messages have been discussed many many times before, and the conclution I have drawn is that such short talk-page inputs are allowed. Just as questions are. - Like this A - "Why isn't this mentioned ?" or B - "I suggest that this is mentioned", there is no essential difference. And both aims (presumably) to improve the article. A good example of the use of talk-pages can be found at the talk-page of Danish pastry (stydy it well...) Cheers Boeing720 (talk) 00:29, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Boeing720, I didn't erase your message because it was too short, and I don't know how or why you came to that conclusion. And don't come here trying to explain to me what talk pages are meant for... clearly if you think that "If there was a "Best Actor ever" prize, then I suggest it would be given to Ralph Fiennes" is " to be for improving of the articles", then you can "hold your horses". You were not suggesting a possible improvement to the article, you were talking him up, and that's not what talk pages are for. Therefore, I removed your message, as I perceived it to be disruptive editing. 4TheWynne 00:48, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi 4TheWynne. There are many ways to suggest an improvement of an article. If you do study other examples, you might find dubious and truely disruptive statements. I gave a good example of this, which I think you actually could learn from. All well. Over and out. Boeing720 (talk) 19:39, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Removal of userpage posts

Hi, 4TheWynne. Boeing470 is allowed to remove posts from his talkpage. It may be rude, including the edit summary, but it's specifically allowed in the userpage guideline, and you're not supposed to put it back. The removal demonstrates that he has read it, so in that sense it's a good thing. I've reverted your reinsertion. (You certainly did right to remove the comment at Talk:Ralph Fiennes, compare the section above; talkpages aren't for general chat about the subject, and I'd have thought Boeing720 has been here long enough to know it.) Bishonen | talk 02:57, 22 September 2016 (UTC). PS, no, actually I didn't revert your reinsertion; somebody else beat me to it. Bishonen | talk 03:01, 22 September 2016 (UTC).

I think that was meant more as a case of "Don't Template the Regulars" (DTTR). Besides, removing a message from the user talk page is typically considered an acknowledgement that it has been read. ViperSnake151  Talk  02:59, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, and while I appreciate your input, I'm still of the impression that the comment was ignored (not acknowledged) before it was removed. That's just the vibe that I got from the edit summary that he gave, which I was less than pleased with, and that's why I reverted the edit on his talk page. For someone who has made a similar number of edits as me and has been on the site for more than four years, I would have expected far better. I know I might sound like I'm contradicting myself here, but I'm also very much aware of WP:DTTR, and sometimes I tend to overlook it because, based on the user's behaviour, I might think that he or she should not get special consideration just because they have been on Misplaced Pages longer than others. To put it simply, I consider myself a good judge of character, and that often reflects in my revert/warning pattern. Anyway, thanks for leaving me with this information. 4TheWynne 08:13, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Daniel Craig changes

Hi 4TheWynne

I made changes to Craig as what was currently there was not accurate in the slightest. Daniel Craig has never made any public comment about his personal beliefs and is very private about them. The previous source was incorrect and from a non reliable source. My source was reliable as it is taken directly from a Craig interview — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.226.74.123 (talk) 12:47, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi !

The edit you told me about Fast 7 wasn't unconstructive, actually it is correct 'Frank Petty' is actually 'Mr.Nobody' please put my edits back son.

Thank You

Gandalf the Wizard 16:14, 26 September 2016 (UTC) Gandalf the Wizard 16:14, 26 September 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gandalf the Wizard (talk • contribs)

Gandalf the Wizard, no, "son", I will not. I would like to, but because the character is credited as "Mr Nobody" in this particular film, we are supposed to leave it like that. Don't worry, I've tried changing it before – this is a long-standing argument which I used to have with other, more experienced editors, regarding the character's name. It is, however, represented by the character's real name, Frank Petty, in the cast section of Fast 8. 4TheWynne 23:04, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Yeah you're right, but actually I am older than you, that's why I called you son, but you took it as a joke, no worries I couldn't stop laughing when I read that.

Bye Son

Gandalf the Wizard 03:30, 27 September 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gandalf the Wizard (talk • contribs)

Gandalf the Wizard, no, I know exactly why you put in "son"; I didn't simply "take it as a joke". It really pisses me off when older editors who haven't been in the system for very long (such as yourself) find it funny that someone my age would editing on Misplaced Pages, and poke fun at me because of my age. Maybe once you've made 6,000 edits rather than 28, you'll understand what I'm talking about. Anyway, seeing as you're not here to make any meaningful suggestions or have a proper discussion, end of conversation, old timer. 4TheWynne 03:44, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

— Confession0791 00:41, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Pronunciation matters

Joshua - thank you for all you do for Misplaced Pages. I appreciate its accuracy and intent to inform. On Ralph Fiennes' page the name "Ralph" appears 24 times so it's important the reader is informed early on how to pronounce it correctly (i.e. /reɪf/), else they will do so incorrectly all 24 times, which reinforces mis-education, not education. 330 million North Americans alone will naturally gravitate to "Ralph" not "Raiph" when they read this two dozen times. I hope you would agree that being accurate matters here. Perhaps you might prefer putting /reɪf/ at the beginning with the pronuciation of "Fiennes"? Best wishes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.235.194.78 (talk) 02:37, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

I didn't disagree with having it there, the only problem was that you added the pronunciation to the wrong section, which is why I removed it. However, I had a look through the page history and saw that it had been removed a couple of months back for no good reason, so I've added it back to the lead section, which is where you would have been able to find it before. Hopefully this resolves any issues. 4TheWynne 02:52, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. This looks good. Off now to right the rest of the world's wrongs... Best. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.235.194.78 (talk) 03:08, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Hardwired... to Self-Destruct song lengths

How do you know the lengths of the song on the album, I can't find it anywhere? BigMan43 (talk) 03:21, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

BigMan43, as alluded to in my edit summary, if you go onto iTunes and have a look in the Store, you should be able to find the official times there, but seeing as you aren't able to view them online (at the time of this message being posted), I think that it would be because the times and other minor details are only available to those who have pre-ordered the album (through iTunes or otherwise) at the present time. That would be my best guess – hope that helps. 4TheWynne 10:05, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Hugh Jackman

Hello. There is nothing wrong with my recent contributionS! It was just my edit on Jackman page that didn't appear constructive to YOU. Sorry you can't just go round, delete others edits and warn them on their talk page because you feel like it. The previous wording was not 'perfectly fine' because it just refers to the genres of his films but as I said most of this actor's characters and roles are completely opposite and he is known for this so it should be mentioned. There are other actors who play in various movie genres but their "roles" are often similar. Eyesweetsugarcandy (talk) 06:03, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Eyesweetsugarcandy, it appears I'm not the only one to oppose your argument. Please watch your tone. 4TheWynne 08:19, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

And you please watch your attitude. My 'tone'? I spoke politely and rationally. You came to my talk page and impugned all of my contributions just because you didn't like that sentence on the article. It was so unnecessary. Eyesweetsugarcandy (talk) 11:15, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

citation for cate blanchett as a natural born citizen of the United States

The Early Life section of the wikipedia article states that her father was born in Texas. Either that's true and she, therefore, is a natural born citizen, or the statement about her father is false — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.248.94.40 (talk) 22:42, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

You also need to note that she was born outside of the United States, and to only one United States citizen, not two. Therefore, I don't think that it is unreasonable for me to ask that you provide a source which proves that she is both an Australian and United States citizen. You can't just add in information which might be false based on what you know. I know exactly what is stated in the Early Life section. 4TheWynne 23:35, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Immigration and Nationality Act § 301(g); 8 USC § 1401(g) very clearly shows that she's a natural born citizen of the United States whether we like it or not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.248.94.40 (talk) 18:38, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

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Rude to both Natalie and me

I'm making the page better. Why stop me from doing this? So very rude to newcomers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.134.174.10 (talk) 11:12, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Clearly (judging even by your section title alone), you might not be as ready to edit Misplaced Pages as you think you are. In the future, just make sure that you leave a valid reason in your edit summary whenever you remove large amounts of content, as you did in the aforementioned edit. 4TheWynne 11:20, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Gary Oldman

So I'm outvoted on the Hell's Kitchen stuff - fair enough. "Identified in the late 1980s with the 'Brit Pack', the critic Roger Ebert..." does not make sense, though. Gary Oldman, not Roger Ebert, was part of the Brit Pack. Please alter to the correct phrasing of "Identified in the late 1980s with the 'Brit Pack', he was described by critic Roger Ebert...". Cheers. 82.221.133.55 (talk) 15:11, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

To be fair, the previous wording was also very much grammatically correct – just more advanced – and what you suggested was not necessarily "the correct phrasing", but because you asked, I've gone and changed that part of the edit. In the future, this kind of issue should really be brought up on the article's talk page, rather than user talk pages. Thanks. 4TheWynne 23:24, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

The name of the country of origin of Natalie's Portman greatgrandparents

https://en.wikipedia.org/Natalie_Portman On that page it is written that her grandparents born in 20`s years of 20h Century were from Jewish families coming from Russia. In that case, the parents of her grandparents had to give a birth in maximum 10 year old. Because earlier there was no country as Russia, but was Russian Empire that had hundreds of other nations in every governorate under it`s crown. I just suggest you to change the name from Russia, on Russian Empire that is all. That would be historically and chronologically correct. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sacuki21 (talk) 11:39, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Sacuki21, you need to brush up on your research yourself, instead of telling me what is "historically and chronologically correct". It is never actually stated when Portman's maternal grandfather's family moved from the country – the family could have moved when the country was known as the Russian Empire (1721–1917), the Russian Republic (1917), the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (1917–1922), or the Soviet Union (1922–1991) – and as a result, it is easier and probably less of a hassle to leave it simply as Russia. 4TheWynne 21:55, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

James Franco Edit

Joshua, first off, thank you for all you do for Misplaced Pages. Secondly, I apologize if you believe I was violating any rules, however, I am merely trying to add his acting studio to his personal page. I don't believe I was citing a poorly referenced article, as it came from Time.com and it a quite a reputable source. If you believe you can assist me in properly adding Studio 4 to his page, I would be very appreciative. Thanks.Stevenanderson (talk) 06:33, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Stevenanderson, I don't know what you're talking about. As far as I can see, nobody's told you or warned you that the source that you added wasn't reputable, and your edit still stands at the page – nobody seems to have a problem with it. I don't know what you want me to do. 4TheWynne 07:07, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

User Adhamh777's continued disruptive editing

I went to Adhamh777's Talk page and noticed you had left a comment for him in December about disruptive editing. User Adhamh777 has since made disruptive edits to the Eddie Irvine article.

The Eddie Irvine article was protected until recently because of people editing his nationality. Not even a month has passed since the protection was lifted, and user Adhamh777 has edited the nationality of Eddie Irvine in the article, ignoring the comments in the article, and the Talk page discussions on that very topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.30.73.153 (talk) 21:41, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

I just looked through user Adhamh777's recent contributions, and he has made numerous edits regarding nationality that have all been reverted! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.30.73.153 (talk) 21:53, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for alerting me to this, but I don't think it should be a huge issue now – I've given him another warning, but he hasn't made any edits for four days, so that should indicate that there's not much to worry about at the moment. If something else pops up, though, let me know. 4TheWynne 01:16, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Prototype (band)

You undid my edit regarding adding Sam Aliano to the band lineup. Sam was in the band, I should know since we hired him at the time (I'm in the band). You are correct in that he did not get credited in any official releases, but he did play a show with the band and recorded pre-production demos. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ProtoDM (talk • contribs) 19:55, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Who am I talking to here? Anyone can just say that they're "in the band", regardless of how much or how little inside knowledge they might have. It's not so much that I don't believe you, I'm just doing my job my checking – I'm a massive fan of the band, after all. My other question is, if Aliano really was part of the lineup at some point (I had assumed he was nothing more than a session/touring member), why has it taken this long for someone to bring it up on Misplaced Pages? 4TheWynne 21:59, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Hardwired... to Self-Destruct sales

You reverted my edit at Hardwired... to Self-Destruct. I can't find any information on the Internet about the one million copies sold. Here it is said that they sold 516,000 worldwide by the end of December, and that info is also in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HeadsOff (talk • contribs) 13:30, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

HeadsOff, the Certifications section of the article lists the certified units/sales, and the total of these sales is over one million. The reason why I reverted your edit and gave you a warning is because you really should have checked and done a sweep of the article before adding a "citation needed" tag, as it was unnecessary. 4TheWynne 13:59, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Whack-a-mole

It's like playing Whack-a-mole with that Aries sockpuppet. You never know when his head will pop up. Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:11, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

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