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How Should this Article Be Updated in Light of Recent Changes?

"Breitbart has made moves that signal a desire to shift away from its renegade roots and mature into a more established news outlet." http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/07/media/far-right-abandons-breitbart/index.html Técnico (talk) 03:13, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/is-breitbart-news-veering-away-from-the-farthest-far-right/2017/06/06/35f91160-4ad1-11e7-a186-60c031eab644_story.html?utm_term=.75efcb0a1b59 Here's a similar article from the Washington Post. Marquis de Faux (talk) 00:30, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

No need for updating on this basis -- we can wait until something actually happens. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 07:50, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

The story is that Breitbart (which is and has been a mainstream outlet for some time) is moving to a slightly more center-right position, and that the far-right reacted with predictable melodrama. I'm not seeing anything in there that's going to add any value to the article. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 13:55, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

I don't think the source (or other related sources) even suggests that Breitbart is moving from far-right to center-right. It sounds like they're simply trying to move away from some of the more overtly race-related content that they started publishing after Bannon took over. (There's a recent PBS Frontline about this.) --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 18:45, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

I don't think the source (or other related sources) even suggests that Breitbart is moving from far-right to center-right. That's why I qualified it with "slightly more". As in, if I walk ten feet North, I'm slightly more "in Canada" (I live in Florida). Maybe I should have said "slightly closer to". That would have been clearer. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 18:54, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

The article suggests that Breitbart is becoming or has already become right-leaning. The source says, "Its editors have talked about becoming the Trump era's paper of record .... And some new hires have come from more established right-leaning news outlets, such as The Wall Street Journal and Fox News." One correspondent seems to say that Breitbart is moving to the left of the Gateway Pundit and Drudge: "'They are leaving the island occupied by the Gateway Pundit and Drudge Report and a few other news sources,' Wintrich told CNN." Técnico (talk) 02:54, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

The article suggests that Breitbart is becoming or has already become right-leaning. If you are suggesting that Breitbart is not right-wing, then you need to stop editing political articles on WP, because you are not competent to do so. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 17:34, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

I don't think someone who identifies himself as a "male feminist" should be calling out someone out on their ability to be neutral. Your bias is clearly visible.Thismightbezach (talk) 23:06, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

I am suggesting, in light of recent changes ongoing at Breitbart, that no adjective at all be used to characterize Breitbart until after those changes have stabilized. Técnico (talk) 04:58, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

I'd oppose that. Breitbart is verifiably far-right and will remain so until reliable sources expressly indicate otherwise. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 18:36, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Verifiably far-right to all your left-wing sources. Don't bother wasting your time, Técnico. The far-left editors on this page will never be convinced otherwise. They'll continue to slander Breitbart with scary adjectives like "far-right" for the foreseeable future.Thismightbezach (talk) 23:00, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

There's nothing scary about "far-right." Lots of organizations are happy to be described as far-right. (Please stay constructive and avoid personalizing content disputes.) --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 23:27, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Dr. Fleischman, you raised three issues:

1) Whether Breitbart is still verifiably far-right

A source seems to have reliably reported that Breitbart is changing. Thus, all previous characterizations of Breitbart might be wrong and thus this Misplaced Pages article might now be wrong. Please reconsider your opposition to the proposed improvement of this Misplaced Pages article.

2) Whether the term "far-right" is scary

The term certainly connotes Antisemitism, which is evil.

3) Whether Breitbart is happy to be described as far-right

No, Breitbart is not happy about being called antisemitic. "Democrat ... Under Fire for Inaccurate Claim that Breitbart, Bannon, Gorka Anti-Semitic"

" denounced Brown for making the inaccurate insinuation that Breitbart News, Bannon and Trump are somehow anti-Semitic."

Zionist Organization of America president Mort Klein said, "Steve Bannon, Breitbart has never had a neo-Nazi or racist or David Duke type article ever. I’ve never seen it. The articles I see are articles fighting anti-Semitism and articles telling the truth about the Arab-Islamic war against Israel and promoting Israel. But I’ll tell you where this phony image comes from, when Steve Bannon said that "Breitbart is a platform for the alt-right," Steve Bannon meant a platform for those who are anti-establishment, anti-the mainstream people. Too many people thought wrongly that "alt-right" meant Neo-Nazis and David Dukes. Frankly, I’ve urged him to make it clear that he never meant that and that’s where this distortion of meaning about Steve Bannon came.'" Técnico (talk) 02:31, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

@Thismightbezach: If you can't wrap your head around having a POV but not editing by it then you really have no business at this project. Also, making bad faith accusations of POV pushing is a violation of our policy. Given that you are coming off a series of escalating blocks for your editing in political areas, I strongly suggest you remain civil, focused on content and most importantly; helpful. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 23:56, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

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