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Refutation of allegations that I've harassed Legacypac:

Correcting related problems on multiple articles and fixing of unambigous errors introduced into the mainspace by another user does not constitute harrassment/wikihounding. The harrassment policy explicitly protects individuals engaging the type of edits which Legacypac and others have called harassment, i.e. "Correct use of an editor's history includes (but is not limited to) fixing unambiguous errors or violations of Misplaced Pages policy, or correcting related problems on multiple articles." and mentions "with good cause" and "overriding reason" WP:HOUND; "However, there is an endemic problem on Misplaced Pages of giving 'harassment' a much broader and inaccurate meaning which encompasses, in some cases, merely editing the same page as another user." and "Neither is tracking a user's contributions for policy violations; the contribution logs exist for editorial and behavioral oversight. Editors do not own their edits, or any other article content, and any other editor has a right to track their editing patterns, and, if necessary, to revert their edits. Unwarranted resistance to such efforts may be a sign of ownership behavior and lead to sanctions."

Pages should be suitable for the mainspace (i.e. meet the core content policies) when moved from the userspace of others to the mainspace.

Legacypac moved User:Abstractmindzent/Graffiki to Graffiki with the move summary "move to mainspace to subject to AfD to test notability- claims at MfD that GNG does not apply are too annoying" then started Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Graffiki with the statement "Users claim GNG can not be tested at MfD so bringing here for discussion." Clear and explicit gaming the system.

Legacypac moved at least 9 pages to the mainspace from the userspace of others without any sources whatsoever: Range query tree, Chockstone Pictures, The Waiting Years, St. John's Fire District, Yeshivat Rambam Maimonides Academy, U.S. Kids Golf, Utah (musical), Alphonsa School Thamarassery, and Casco Island.

Legacypac moved into the mainspace from the userspace of others and draftspace that were deleted per G12: User:Streete/Streete → Streete, User:Aliki166/Enter your new article name here → Glyptography, Draft:Biotrickling filter → Biotrickling filter.

Legacypac moved into the mainspace from the userspace of others that were deleted per G11: User:Ripshred/Macy Malone → Macy Malone, User:SBDT/NNE Pharmaplan → NNE Pharmaplan, User:SBRenew/Strategic Biomass Solutions → Strategic Biomass Solutions.

Legacypac !voted against undeleting articles they moved to the mainspace which ended up being deleted at e.g. Misplaced Pages:Deletion review/Log/2016 March 31#User:Acresant1123/Chaz Knapp, Misplaced Pages:Deletion review/Log/2016 April 4#User:Acresant1123/Chaz Knapp, Misplaced Pages:Requests for undeletion/Archive 229#Unicity Productions, Play It Strange Trust, and Hack n' Smack Celebrity..., and User talk:Malcolmxl5/Archive 9#Richard d'Anjolell.

Anyone who does those things should expect their future moves to be scrutinized. Futhermore, Legacypac generally doesn't improve or e.g. bring into compliance with the manual of style pages they move from the userspace of others to the mainspace. Why would they consider others doing so (or seeking undeletions) to be harassing them unless they have ulterior motives (i.e. wanting pages more easily deleted due to the stricter standards of the mainspace as they have explicitly wanted in the past)? It has also been alleged that my unambiguous improvements to pages that Legacypac moved from the userpsace of others to the mainspace etc. were meant to annoy Legacypac or "mak clear statements of "I'm watching you and following you wherever you go.'" That speculation is pure ridiculous nonsense. Due to their past misbehavior with page moves, I did look at their page move log. As I was already viewing the pages, I quickly did what I could to clean them up.

In regard to those who will link interaction reports, diffs, etc. between Legacypac and I: We both edited many of the same community discussions, talk pages, deletion discussions (which I frequent) and pages listed for deletion, and I unambiguously improved pages they moved into the mainspace from the userspace of others (and pages they nominated for deletion), many of which were in poor states (e.g. the pages without sources I link above). None of that constitutes harassment. See also here.

That aside:

Legacypac continues to bring pages to MFD in violation of WP:NMFD. See Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:The Dollop (Legacypac stated I'd like to test this AfC submission's topic's notability for mainspace. I think it's on the edge of passing GNG.). Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Zack biss, Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Glen Loates, and Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Anjali Tendulkar are just some of a great many I could link here. Legacypac wants me barred from "participation in any XfD started by except for an XfD against a page started by, substantially edited by or handled (reviewed/moved) by the other user" so I would be unable to oppose their inappropriate nominations.

Legacypac will likely also accuse me of "gravedancing": When looking into those diffs, look at what those comments I made are in response to. Most all, if not all, will be in direct reply to them mentioning that I received a block for harassing them. I still maintain that block was bad: the community did not agree with the unilateral, hasty block I received early during Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive957#Godsy back to Wikihounding - how to stop it?, instead they chose to topic ban Legacypac from moving pages to the mainspace there.

Lastly:

During this, Legacypac inappropriately reverted my acceptable closure of Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Medieval jobs, which led to Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive957#Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Medieval jobs. They've made at least one other allegation that an acceptable closure of mine was inappropriate, i.e. Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive280#Request review of NAC.

They made a personal attack against me during a deletion discussion (similar to in the past) and inappropriately edited my comments repeatedly as described at AN/3 (they also removed a comment I made here) after Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive957#Godsy back to Wikihounding - how to stop it? was closed. I believe all of that was meant to spark something like Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Proposing IBAN between Godsy and Legacypac (their stated goal in that an/i was "Surely Godsy can find some other pool of articles to work on then those in my logs. One solution might be to restrict him from editing any article I've edited within the last week."). This comment made by Legacypac furthers that belief: "Given complaining about Godsy behavior brought no resolution, I decided to deal with his activity well within the bounds of what defined as acceptable behavior. To the extent that has offended anyone, I apologize." "Well within the bounds of what defined as acceptable behavior" refers to WP:TPOC which their "deal with activity", i.e. their changes to my comments, clearly do not fall within the protections of (while e.g. my edit does).