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Question

Hello, and thank you. I do hope that I am not violating some arcane rule just by writing to you. But the truth is that although I have learned my way around AfD, and am comfortable enough with sources to occasionally venture an opinion at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard, I find ANI aversive that I rarely dip a toe in unless dragged there. I am, therefore, puzzled to know whether I am required to do anything further at this point, or indeed, permitted to do so. Can you point me to an explanation of BOOMERANG? WP:BOOMERANG is no help at all. Am I, for example, expected to bring diffs on the several editors accusing me of bad editing? I learned the ropes at AfD by blundering into one rule after another until more or less I figured it out. Somehow, it doesn't seem like a god way to handle ANI, although that is more or less what I've been doing until now. If this was real life, I would have consulted an good attorney. But perhaps you will be kind enough to offer some pointers, or point me to to the Wikipeida version of black letter law as it applies to defendants in the dock at ANI, and the etiquette of BOOMERANG. Gratefully, E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:01, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Basically a boomerang is exactly that. They claim you edit X, the charge is now that they do so. I don't always agree with boomerangs because there are real cases where people bring stuff to ANI and then right away it's boomerang. But in general, if you bring a case to ANI, your posts and behavior is fair game. So basically, I think at this point, a boomerang means that you and others can provide diffs to show that the cause of action that was brought upon you was not in good faith. Sir Joseph 20:06, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Nice to see you guys getting on like a house on fire as usual. Sir Joseph - I hope you noted that the closing admin at the ANI said "I do have to say that some of the boomerang proposals are particularly ridiculous and do not reflect well on some of those who proposed them." Your conduct at the ANI reflected very poorly on you. But at least your loyalty and disruptive behaviour has impressed your Dear Leader. AusLondonder (talk) 13:36, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

How funny. Huldra posts an ANI and you come running. Stay off my talk page, I have no interest in speaking with you. And I am going to presume those comments are not for me. I posted a boomerang request after two others requested it. And my request was simple, a boomerang. You should look in the mirror yourself if you don't think you aren't biased. Sir Joseph 13:39, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

I went to the ANI independently because I'm sick to the back teeth of E.M.Gregory's behaviour. The boomerang proposal was embarrassingly naïve and makes your judgement appear very poor. Unlike you I'm not obsessed with one or two topics and I edit widely (and rarely in the Israel/Palestine area) so I'd be very careful before accusing others of bias. AusLondonder (talk) 14:04, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Firstly, I told you to stay off my page. Secondly, guess what? I also came to ANI independently. And you are biased. When you edit Israel or terror related articles, you edit with your bias showing. And I also edit in a variety of topics. And again, stay off my page. Sir Joseph 14:09, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

itn request

Im on a mobile right now, can you copy+paste my self revert comment back on to the page please? Thanks

"Bet Din"

Balance between din and p'shara, huh? Or law and equity? Anyway, good luck ... StevenJ81 (talk) 15:21, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. It should be an interesting few weeks. (BTW, that is one thing about BD I don't like. My family is/was involved in a dispute and the BD automatically tries pushing p'shara when with din, we'd be victorious.) Sir Joseph 15:24, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Concerning BD (not here), there is a strong historical preference to encourage p'shara, of course. But don't most Batei Din give the parties some latitude as to their preference for p'shara, p'shara k'rova ladin or din? StevenJ81 (talk) 15:30, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Yes, I think when you start the case they ask if you want p'shara or din, but they push for p'shara, I don't know if that is also to accommodate issues with being legally recognized arbitration. I just think there are times when you know you're right and want your day in court, but we're all taught that p'shara is the way to go. Sir Joseph 15:35, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

• Does anyone else find this comment a little off? Sir Joseph 18:31, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
• Here's the comment as it is, and I note that I am the only one who got descriptors, I do think it's fairly common for some segment of the people to point out the religion of someone, but I make no claim about any editor, just pointing out it shares resemblance with those types of people.

Sir Joseph (T-C-L) is a Jewish Republican from New York City, living on the Jersey side of the river. Kudos for trying to learn a little Yiddish......

I don't think I'm overreacting, but I find it distasteful. Sir Joseph 20:58, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

• I find it funny in a way in how people are "non-Jew"-splaining on what is or not perceived as anti-semitism. As I have said many times before, on Misplaced Pages, the only minority group you are allowed to "persecute" are Jews. Can you imagine a different minority telling someone that their comment came off as anti-them? They would get an apology and the comment would be edited. And to all my stalkers out there, I never said the person is an antisemite, I said the comment was perceived as antisemitic and I have communicated with a few other people to get their feelings and 90% of the people agreed with me. Sir Joseph 14:22, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Benito Mussolini

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Benito Mussolini. Legobot (talk) 04:23, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

IRC

Do you have an account on the Misplaced Pages-en WP:IRC channel? Just wondering, as I was wanting to contact you in a quicker form than user-talk pages. _{Adotchar| reply here} 22:34, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi, no, I don't have an account on IRC, but you can email me if you don't want to discuss things on wiki. Sir Joseph 22:43, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Ned Kelly

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Questions regarding ARBCOM (Please reinstate)

Thanks for engaging with my question. While I may still disagree with the answer, I respect the effort that you made to address my concerns and will reflect that fact when voting. I do not intend to press the issue further. Just to follow up, though, with an initial apology if I came off as hostile - I only sought an answer, and may have gone overboard in seeking it. With this in light, I would like to ask that you revert your decision to remove my secondary question from the question section, as it deserves to be there in my view. If, as you alluded to, you removed it to spare me from coming off negatively from the interaction, I can inform you that I don't share such concerns - much like yourself, I believe that I should stand by what I have said. If you wish, you can strike out the question, but I would request that you reinstate it nonetheless on the page rather than purging it with a tool intended for vandalism, which my query was not. I am asking here rather than reverting directly so as to prevent an edit war with the three reverts rule. I believe that the question should remain visible, I stand by my concerns and am satisfied that you answered, and I feel that they should be reinstated ergo. If you would kindly see to this, I will be happy to let the matter stand.

P.S. If we are worried about perceptions on Misplaced Pages, purging a valid question doesn't come off as particularly diplomatic.

Nonetheless, that said, I will now drop the matter as you have done your utmost to address my concerns vis-á-vis ARBCOM. Sincerest best of luck in the election. Stormy clouds (talk) 22:01, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Also want to dissuade any notions that I am stalking. Rather, I am trying to cast an informed ballot for ARBCOM in an effort to become more involved in the project. Once this is satisfactorily resolved, I shan't bother you again. Stormy clouds (talk) 22:10, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Arbcom

So, I'm sitting there waiting for a dentist appointment and I get an email notifying me about the Arbcom elections. As I had a few minutes to kill and was already prepared for some pain, I decided to stop by and see how this amateur production of Lord of the Flies was going. Imagine my surprise to see your name there. Have you recently suffered some head trauma? Who did you imagine would vote for you after literally years of open hostility from the administration to people like us? Were you surprised that someone on the "other site" warned everyone you're a Jew? Were you surprised that nobody called him on it? Anyhow, good luck. I'd appreciate it if you could ping me on my talk page when the elections are over, I'd like to see how many votes you get. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 19:27, 5 December 2017 (UTC)