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Fire in the London docks

I have altered the wording on the image of the fire in East London to that which appears in the caption on the first image

For those not familiar with the geography of London the Surrey Commercial Docks were located where the old map says "Halls of Companies" and in the boxes south of that banner.

The photographer must have been standing no further away than London Bridge (otherwise it would show up in the photo). The fires in the foreground are just behind the turrets of the White Tower (Tower of London) this means it is probably close to the old Royal Mint and north of St Catherine's Dock (plan of the right). Due to the bends in the river the more distant fires towards the right of the picture could well be in Surrey Commercial Docks, but to label the picture "Smoke rising from fires in Surrey docks, following bombing on 7 September" was misleading.

-- PBS (talk) 13:22, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

The fires in the photo appear to be actually in the West India Docks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.149.173.52 (talk) 19:09, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Later attacks

The is article implies that the bombing of London finished after 8 months. Whether or not the Bliz only occurred for those 8 months is debatable. If one toured the bomb-sites after World War II people would have said it occurred in the Blitz. They would not have said "oh Rotherhithe town hall was bombed in the Blitz but latter destroyed by a V1".

So I think this edit by user:Dapi89 that removed a whole section called "Later attacks" did not keep to the policy directive of WP:PRESERVE because, if indeed one thinks that the Blitz was only that short campaign, the section was a prime case for:

"Merging or moving the content to a more relevant existing article, or splitting the content to an entirely new article"

-- PBS (talk) 13:23, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Comment on German bombing theory

This is not correct, the Luftwaffe policy for bombing civilians produced its first effect on April 26th 1937 when the Condor Legion bombed Guernica, later the Luftwaffe caused 20,000 - 25,000 casualties in besieged Warsaw, about half the number suffered by Britain during the entire war. This action against Warsaw included straffing civilians, and it is evidently the application of a doctrine. The data for this edit is in Misplaced Pages itself, so further references are superfluous.

Added by R Davidson, unsigned and possibly spam.Keith-264 (talk) 18:44, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Guernica and Warsaw were military bases on the frontline. The British had bombed civilians in Russia, Iraq and Afghanistan soon after World War I. (81.158.250.117 (talk) 20:19, 23 September 2017 (UTC))

"The British had bombed civilians in Russia, Iraq and Afghanistan soon after World War I" - not without first dropping leaflets telling the inhabitants to get out so that the villages would be empty when bombed. When the villagers returned they would then face the task of re-building the villages, and thus give them something else to do other than fight amongst themselves and generally cause trouble. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.30.162.172 (talk) 08:32, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

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Luftwaffe losses in May 1941

The article currently says, in reference to April 1941: "In the following month, 22 German bombers were lost with 13 confirmed to have been shot down by night fighters. On 3/4 May, nine were shot down in one night. On 10/11 May, London suffered severe damage, but 10 German bombers were downed. In May 1941, RAF night fighters shot down 38 German bombers."

In the first sentence, 22 bombers are said to have been lost in May, with 13 confirmed as shot down by night fighters. In the last sentence, the night fighters are said to have downed 38 bombers. I don't have access to the quoted source - maybe someone who does could check. Scartboy (talk) 20:52, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Recent edits

@Eric Corbett: Hello Eric, if you're altering the order of citations to make them alphabetical, that will interfere with citations which are in the order they're being used to cite. Regards Keith-264 (talk) 13:10, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

I'm not, I'm reordering them in the order in which they're being used. Eric Corbett 14:00, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

OK, thanks Keith-264 (talk) 14:01, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

While you're here, the article is inconsistent in its use of The Blitz vs. the Blitz. Which do you think it should be?

I think lower case 'the' is seen more often in sources. Binksternet (talk) 18:09, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Good question, perhaps lower case "the", since Blitz is capitalised. Keith-264 (talk) 18:17, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

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