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Any reason why you have violated WP:TROUBLES here? As for my revert, your edit was entirely unreferenced and unexplained. GiantSnowman 11:17, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

It's not possible to violate a "Request for arbitration". My edit was explained (edit summary "add Lisa Dorrian to table"). Yours, on the contrary, was not (reverting with an edit summary of "rv". You've been around here long enough to know better than to do that. My edit was also covered by existing citations in the article. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:38, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
I'd direct you to the decision of the Arbitration (at WP:ARBTRB) where it says "Pages relating to The Troubles are placed under discretionary sanctions" aka 1RR. I'll again ask why you violated this (and also WP:BRD, in case you are ignorant of WP:TROUBLES)). FYI my edit summary was inadvertently brief (I sometimes accidentally click save when on my Mac) whereas yours was practically non-existent. GiantSnowman 11:45, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
Well, if that's what you meant, that's what you should have said. Quite why you might have meant that, when I did not violate 1RR, is a matter for conjecture. BRD, on the other hand, cannot be "violated", since it it merely "an optional method of reaching consensus" (though it does require the reverting party to give an explanation for their revert, which you failed to do); again, you have been around here long enough to know better than to make such a comment. As for your false "feign ignorance", such attempts to smear are beneath contempt. But yes, of course your edit summary was an "accident". Who could ever think otherwise? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:57, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
You have also been here long enough to a) WP:AGF and b) ask another editor if their summary was insufficient enougnbf ro you to comply with the basics of BRD. GiantSnowman 11:59, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
For what' it's worth I've finished the edit you started. Not difficult. GiantSnowman 12:04, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
AGF does not require me to accept a revert made with no stated reason in the edit summary or elsewhere; and neither does BRD. As I said above, but you seem to have overlooked, BRD is merely "an optional method of reaching consensus". But since you're still learning about BRD, you can now note that it also says "Revert an edit if it is not an improvement, and it cannot be immediately fixed by refinement. Consider reverting only when necessary. BRD does not encourage reverting...". HTH. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:18, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #305

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Discussions
    • Closed request for adminship: Putnik, Okkn. Welcome on board!
    • Closed request for comments: Former ATE
  • Development
    • New search code for Wikidata merged. You may notice the improvement in the search results output for Wikidata item. However, new code for search is not enabled, only new results format. The search code will be enabled next week.
    • Improving formatting of language and lexical category in diff for Lexemes (phab:T189679)
    • Allow to remove a Form (phab:T189675)
    • Translate the grammatical feature properly on Lexemes (phab:T189143)
    • Investigate and fix a bug on Lexemes when undoing an edit (phab:T187215)
    • Progress on refactoring the table wb_terms (phab:T189777, phab:T188993, phab:T188279)
    • Fixing an error on the caching of the constraint checks (phab:T189842)
    • Improving the performance of a table in the database (phab:T180834)
    • Improving the way we're building dumps (phab:T177550)
    • Investigate on improving Lua functions (phab:T143970)

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Tech News: 2018-13

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Changes later this week

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  • TemplateStyles will be deployed to the Wikivoyages on 28 March 2018.
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 27 March. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from 28 March. It will be on all wikis from 29 March (calendar).

Meetings

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20:04, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Janet Boyman

Please don't fiddle with other editor's user pages: It just incites drama—I assume you wish to avoid that. Cheers, —SerialNumber54129 10:37, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

I think you're operating under a misapprehension; I suggest you look at the article's history. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:57, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
As I indicate in my edit summary this time, while nobody should claim ownership over their creations, common sense and courtesy prevails in this case. I am sorry to say this, but if you try to do silly move warring like this again, you will lose your editing privilege. Whenever there is a chance to reduce unnecessary drama, it is only right to try your best to promote good will and collegial editing. You are free to start a new article on Janet Boyman that is not a duplicate copy if that's what you prefer. I hope you understand. Alex Shih (talk) 11:07, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
Noted that you're an involved admin making block threats and abusing your tools to protect an article where you are involved. Shameful. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:17, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Signpost issue 4 – 29 March 2018

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New Page Review Newsletter No.10

Hello Pigsonthewing, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!
Notability
General notability guideline
Subject-specific guidelines
See also

ACTRIAL:

  • ACTRIAL's six month experiment restricting new page creation to (auto)confirmed users ended on 14 March. As expected, a greatly increased number of unsuitable articles and candidates for deletion are showing up in the feed again, and the backlog has since increased already by ~30%. Please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day.

Paid editing

  • Now that ACTRIAL is inoperative pending discussion, please be sure to look for tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary.

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Thank you ...

... for improving article quality in March! Happy Easter! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:39, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2018).

Administrator changes

added 331dot • Cordless Larry • ClueBot NG
removed Gogo Dodo • Pb30 • Sebastiankessel • Seicer • SoLando

Guideline and policy news

  • Administrators who have been desysopped due to inactivity are now required to have performed at least one (logged) administrative action in the past 5 years in order to qualify for a resysop without going through a new RfA.
  • Editors who have been found to have engaged in sockpuppetry on at least two occasions after an initial indefinite block, for whatever reason, are now automatically considered banned by the community without the need to start a ban discussion.
  • The notability guideline for organizations and companies has been substantially rewritten following the closure of this request for comment. Among the changes, the guideline more clearly defines the sourcing requirements needed for organizations and companies to be considered notable.
  • The six-month autoconfirmed article creation trial (ACTRIAL) ended on 14 March 2018. The post-trial research report has been published. A request for comment is now underway to determine whether the restrictions from ACTRIAL should be implemented permanently.

Technical news

Arbitration

  • The Arbitration Committee is considering a change to the discretionary sanctions procedures which would require an editor to appeal a sanction to the community at WP:AE or WP:AN prior to appealing directly to the Arbitration Committee at WP:ARCA.

Miscellaneous

  • A discussion has closed which concluded that administrators are not required to enable email, though many editors suggested doing so as a matter of best practice.
  • The Foundations' Anti-Harassment Tools team has released the Interaction Timeline. This shows a chronologic history for two users on pages where they have both made edits, which may be helpful in identifying sockpuppetry and investigating editing disputes.
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Tech News: 2018-14

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Template Wizard script available for testing. It will show up as a puzzle-piece icon in the 2010 WikiEditor. You can click on the icon to insert a template.
  • Advanced item The Wikimedia Communities and Contributors survey is to be sent to participants around the world this week. If you are volunteer developer, and have contributed code to any pieces of MediaWiki, gadgets, or tools, please take 20 to 40 minutes to complete the survey.

Problems

  • MediaWiki deployment train has been rolled back to version 1.31.0-wmf.26 on week 13, due to a multiplication of lost connections during MySQL queries. Some of the recent changes may have not been applied. They will be deployed next week.
  • The Notifications badge icons were overlapping other links. This has been fixed.

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 April. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 April. It will be on all wikis from 5 April (calendar).
  • Advanced item User subpages ending in .json will now be protected from other people editing them, like .js and .css pages already are. If you have a tool that stores static configuration, you can now use a subpage like User:Example/mygadget.json to do this without concerns.
  • Advanced item Tidy will be replaced by RemexHtml on the next set of wikis. On April 4, we plan to turn off Tidy on all Wikiquotes (except frwikiquote) and Wikimedia chapters and user groups wikis. 23 wikis will have Tidy replaced this time.
  • Advanced item AbuseFilter will transition to use OOUI starting April 4, and the rule editor will also be changed to a CodeEditor (ACE) similar to what is found on user JavaScript pages. The move to OOUI will continue over the next few weeks.
  • In Special:Preferences, the preference "Reload the watchlist automatically whenever a filter is changed (JavaScript required)" is now only visible for users who have opt-out the New Filters for the Watchlist.
  • You can see names of individual abuse filters in Special:AbuseLog. Now if the name of an abuse filter contains some wikisyntax like links, it will not change to a link when displayed.
  • You can now search through filter patterns at Special:AbuseFilter. You may specify either a plain string or a regular expression and the matching filters will show a snippet of their pattern with the match highlighted.

Meetings

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Future changes

  • If you're using, creating or improving Lua modules, you can give your feedback to help harmonizing the modules across wikis and add more useful functions.
  • Advanced item On April 11th, we plan to turn off Tidy on all wikis with less than 50 entries in all high priority linter categories. About 60 wikis will have Tidy replaced. Currently about 600 wikis have had Tidy replaced and we have another 300 wikis to go. We plan to finish this transition from Tidy to RemexHtml by end of June 2018. Please follow T175706 to monitor progress of Tidy replacement.

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19:28, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #306

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
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Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 12:20, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Talk:List_of_school_massacres_by_death_toll#Proposed_merge_with_List_of_rampage_killers_(school_massacres)

Hi Andy, just a courtesy note to let you know I've closed a discussion you initiated, at Talk:List_of_school_massacres_by_death_toll#Proposed_merge_with_List_of_rampage_killers_(school_massacres). All the best, Fish+Karate 12:09, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: AH374

Hello Pigsonthewing. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of AH374, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: User who created this was not a sockpuppeteer, change to xfd. Thank you. Nightfury 13:24, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Further, if you note that the user's block log backs up the claim. Nightfury 13:30, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: AH374

Hello Pigsonthewing, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of AH374, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The reason given is not a valid speedy deletion criterion. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. —SerialNumber54129 14:23, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Can you two get your stories straight? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:27, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
"Ha ha, charade it is": I have no idea what happened—the article history shows nothing. —SerialNumber54129 14:37, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Andy Mabbett listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Andy Mabbett. Since you had some involvement with the Andy Mabbett redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. BrillLyle (talk) 16:08, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Now at WP:ANI#BrillLyle. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:57, 7 April 2018 (UTC)