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Sia (musician) article revert
@Ssilvers: Brining this page to your attention since you reverted mention of LSD on Sia's article. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:40, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
- This article should be deleted. The three artists merely collaborated on a song, and there is no such "supergroup", despite what some of the optimistic press calls it. The reference given does not support the article. This appears to be a case of WP:CRYSTAL. -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:06, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
- I agree, but we'll also find out tomorrow what "LSD" means, so I suggest we wait until then before deciding what to do with this article. In the meantime, I've added another tag to the top of the article. ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:29, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
Redirect
I've redirected LSD (LSD song) to this article. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:07, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Ditto LSD (Labrinth, Sia, and Diplo song). ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:32, 2 May 2018 (UTC)- I've requested the deletion of these 2 pages, along with LSD (Labrinth, Sia and Diplo song). ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:59, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
I've redirected Audio (song) and Audio (LSD song) to this article, per confirmation the song is being released next week. ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:59, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
Page move
Per WP:CRYSTAL, I've moved the page to "LSD (collaboration)", since no one has acted to delete it. -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:39, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- But plenty of sources specifically call LSD a supergroup. Another track is being released in a few days, and an album is anticipated. I vote for moving the article back to LSD (supergroup). ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:03, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- Is there a WP:RS that says an album is anticipated? What is the ref for another track being released in a few days? -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:05, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/diplo-sia-announce-new-group-with-upbeat-new-song-genius-w519789 / ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:08, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you. Until a release date for the album is announced, I consider the information to be WP:CRYSTAL, and two singles do not, I believe, make a "group", regardless of what some in the press may call it. In English it is called a "collaboration", and that is what Variety called it, so we have ample reason to call it what it is commonly called in English. I am working on a novel, a screenplay, and album and all will win the Pulitzer Prize. I am also working on my Nobel-prize-winning research. -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:12, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- I"d argue Rolling Stone is more authoritative than Variety here. Also, supergroup:
- All of these sources are better than Variety for music info, IMO. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:18, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you. Until a release date for the album is announced, I consider the information to be WP:CRYSTAL, and two singles do not, I believe, make a "group", regardless of what some in the press may call it. In English it is called a "collaboration", and that is what Variety called it, so we have ample reason to call it what it is commonly called in English. I am working on a novel, a screenplay, and album and all will win the Pulitzer Prize. I am also working on my Nobel-prize-winning research. -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:12, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/diplo-sia-announce-new-group-with-upbeat-new-song-genius-w519789 / ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:08, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- Is there a WP:RS that says an album is anticipated? What is the ref for another track being released in a few days? -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:05, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Whoa! Please look again: Rolling Stone does not call it a supergroup. So that supports the move away from supergroup. Variety is certainly a better source than MTV and NME and, as I said, it has the virtue of agreeing with the English language and WP:CRYSTAL, since the three artists have not made an official announcement referring to themselves as a "supergroup". -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:30, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- I did not say RS said "supergroup"; I was using this source in reply to your questions re: "Audio" and the upcoming album. I was providing the other sources re: "supergroup". Regardless, even the RS source says "group", which I think is more fitting than "collaboration". ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:33, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- No, it is less fitting. A musical "group" is something that is ongoing. What is the rush here? Why not, per WP:CRYSTAL, wait for an official announcement of an album that refers to the group as an ongoing supergroup, or at least makes it clear that this is intended to be an ongoing group? -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:35, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) The artists don't need to release an announcement specifically referring to themselves a supergroup. We go based on secondary coverage. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:36, 7 May 2018 (UTC)