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Would it be good to have a list of administrators here? Jeronimo

Yup. -- Tarquin

At first blush, it sounds like a good idea to me. — Toby 09:27 Sep 20, 2002 (UTC)

You've been blushing a lot lately. ;) --mav

OK - Here is a list of every user. All that is needed is for somebody to search for "sysop" and write down the sysops user name here. --mav

I can do better than that! Run this query: SELECT CONCAT("*]") from user where user_rights != "" ORDER BY user_name and cut-n-paste. --Brion

Sorry about the inadvertent capitalization of your name, mav. --Ed Poor

No biggie on the capitalization thing but just be careful not to delete Toby's message next time. --mav
Actually, I noticed that when I did the Diff in History, and I was putting it back when we got an edit conflict. I was correcting the "m" as well as putting back his message, but you are faster on the draw than I am. --Ed Poor
Opps! Sorry about that. :) --mav

Hello. Something in one of Eloquence's messages to wikien-l has been confusing me. When he requested temporary sysop status in order to delete some pages, he added, "I've thought about making this possible for non-sysops by changing the code accordingly, but the security risk is too high." Changing the code? Doesn't that involve having "developer" status? He's not indicated as a developer on the Misplaced Pages:Administrators page, and I thought that the Misplaced Pages power hierarchy was a total order, so that all developers were sysops automatically. This is only idle curiosity, but since it is confusing me, I'd be grateful if someone could explain! -- Oliver PEREIRA 17:10 Jan 26, 2003 (UTC)

There are several different kinds of developer status:

  • right to commit changes to our CVS server (I do have this right)
  • right to directly access (via ssh) our server and alter the files stored there (I do not have this right since I have not asked for it; Brion, Ed, the Bomis folks and a couple of other people do).
  • right to run read-only SQL queries using the Misplaced Pages interface; every sysop can do so, so I have this right while I have sysop status.

And no, developers are not automatically sysops. Jimbo has offered me permanent sysop status but I have declined (I prefer to be a non-sysop most of the time in order to better understand how the Misplaced Pages workflow can be optimized). --Eloquence 17:29 Jan 26, 2003 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the explanation! It seems that the power hierarchy is even more complicated than I thought. Ah well, never mind... -- Oliver PEREIRA 19:02 Jan 26, 2003 (UTC)


I just thought I'd better point out that Zoe seems to have been missed off the list. -- Oliver P. 21:23 Feb 19, 2003 (UTC)

She's on now. But what happened to Lee Daniel Crocker ?? His name didn't come up when I queried the user table. --Uncle Ed 21:39 Feb 19, 2003 (UTC)
I disabled his access while he was gone just so we didn't have an unused developer account potentially open to unnoticed cracking. Well actually, I meant to do that but forgot, and then accidentally didn't restore him when I mucked up the sysop accounts the other day. :) I'll put him back. --Brion 22:51 Feb 19, 2003 (UTC)

Could you please add a sv language link to Misplaced Pages:Administratörer? // Liftarn

Done Enchanter

Is there a good page around to show just what capabilities sysops have, and how to use them? For instance, I see that I can apparently block by IP address, but only (as far as I can see) from seeing them on Special:Recentchanges or Special:Watchlist. Not that I would imagine it likely I'd need to from the User page or a history page, but it'd be nice in general to have a HOWTO or something to see what all there is to it. -- John Owens 09:43 Apr 6, 2003 (UTC)


What, what WHAT!!! User:Rambot is a sysop??!! Why in the world is a bot a sysop? One glitich in the bot's code and it deletes 100 articles a minute! And since it is a registered bot these edits would not show up on Recent Changes! --mav

Rambot is *not* a sysop. Presumably someone made this list by checking for "user_rights != ", without actually checking the contents thereof. Registered bot accounts are marked with "bot" in the user_rights field. --Brion 05:25 Apr 10, 2003 (UTC)
Whew! Thanks for the info. --mav
Rambot, we hardly knew ye. -- John Owens
Before your time I suppose. Rambot created 30,000 articles on US places and then went through several runs to add more info to each of them. --mav
I'd gotten the idea of what it is, and figured it was responsible for a lot of those geographical/census pages that crop up about 1/3 the time I hit Special:Randompage, especially after I looked at some histories. Did it have anything to do with the 1911 encyclopædia too, or was that all by hand? -- John Owens
Actually, looking at it again now, Rambot's last major contributions were in December 2002, and I started here in October that same year (or a bit earlier, anonymously), so not entirely before my time. -- John Owens

Does this page need to be protected? I hear that soft security works well these days... Martin


"Four of these (in bold italics) also have developer rights." Well, no, I count 5. Koyaanis Qatsi


Who is User:Jasonr? Does he/Has he ever existed and should his name remain on this list? Tuf-Kat

Employee of Bomis, hasn't contributed for a year or so, but stops in occasionally to do admin stuff. Yes, he should stay. Koyaanis Qatsi 18:59 Apr 15, 2003 (UTC)
I guess my question was how can he be an admin when he doesn't appear to have an account. I'm sure he's a swell chap and all, and I have no problems with his sysopness, I'm just curious as to how it's possible. Tuf-Kat
He has an account; he just doesn't have a user page. Koyaanis Qatsi
Aaaah.... Tuf-Kat