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Question about updating a bio you created

Hi Everymorning! You created a bio for Dr. Josephine Briggs when she was Director of the National Center for Complementary and Integrative Health. She retired from NCCIH and is the Editor-in-Chief of the Journal of American Society of Nephrology as of Jan 1, 2018. Would you be able to update her bio?

Here's a reference: https://newswise.com/articles/josephine-p-briggs-md-to-lead-the-journal-of-american-society-of-nephrology-s-incoming-editorial-team. Here's another reference: https://www.kidneynews.org/kidneynews/9_8/16/16.pdf

Thanks for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.112.72.96 (talk) 21:05, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

• Thanks for letting me know about this. I have updated Briggs' article to reflect this change. Everymorning talk to me 00:55, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
• Thank you! So kind of you. Dr. Briggs is actually going to be editor for a 6-year term (see the Newswise article), so it would be more accurate to delete this: "a position she will hold for all of 2018." I see how the NCCIH page was ambiguous saying "In 2018, she will be...." Her appointment began in January 2018. Have a great weekend! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.231.234.33 (talk) 22:08, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

DOB

WP:DOB says Misplaced Pages includes full names and dates of birth that have been widely published by reliable sources, or by sources linked to the subject such that it may reasonably be inferred that the subject does not object. Martindale-Hubbell is reliable, but it is not widely available in the same way that we normally expect for BLPs. It is likely provided by the subject, (Newyorkbrad), but publication in a law directory is somewhat different than an interview with 60 Minutes in which it is self-disclosed, and providing it there is not the same as it being in an infobox that will feed to Google. I'm pinging him in case he wants to comment as to whether or not he is fine with the full DOB being published, but we don't throw our privacy protections out the window simply because the subject is a high profile editor. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:38, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

• Yes, I saw you removed the DOB (and then removed it again after I readded it w/Martindale source), and I don't want to violate BLP either. I suppose the key question is, how widely does a DOB have to be published in RSs (including Martindale) to qualify to meet the standard in WP:DOB? I can't find it in many other places (other than a page on Mylife.com and the Library of Congress, the latter of which just cites Martindale as a source ). Hopefully Newyorkbrad will weigh in himself and tweet out his DOB, as previous Wikipedians with articles like Emily Temple-Wood and Aaron Halfaker have done. Every morning (there's a halo...) 21:43, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
  • That's the point: you were able to find only one source for it. That doesn't meet the BLP policy. We have the luxury of being able to ask the subject, but it is entirely reasonable to assume he wouldn't mind it published in Martindale but would mind it feeding straight into Google (I don't know.) The point I'm trying to make is that you should be very cautious with adding personal information about living persons. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:55, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
    • Interestingly, there is another (potentially) reliable source in which the same DOB is included: this page for Matetsky on MyLife. I am unsure whether this website would be considered a reliable source or as linked to the subject to the extent required by WP:DOB, though. Every morning (there's a halo...) 05:07, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
      • An online background check service would not be considered a reliable source. TonyBallioni (talk) 11:09, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Ira Brad Matetsky for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Ira Brad Matetsky is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Ira Brad Matetsky until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:42, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

When I addressed a message to you at Talk:Ira Brad Matetsky questioning the subject's notability, I expected you to explain your thinking. Instead, you chose to continue editing the article instead. For this reason, I have moved forward with getting that article deleted. (I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.) Chris Troutman (talk) 21:46, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

I did see that message but I thought it was implied that I believed Matetsky to be notable, as otherwise I wouldn't have created the article about him. Now that you've AFDed it (as I expected someone would soon based on the talk page comments), we will see what the community thinks. I apologize for not explicitly responding to you. It does seem weird, however, to imply that Matetsky would be, or at least might be, notable only if he were dead. Every morning (there's a halo...) 21:49, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Apology accepted. I try extra hard to AGF with established editors, in case you had a logic I wasn't seeing. "...notable only if he were dead." Perhaps you hadn't seen Chris Sherwin, Lucy Ozarin, Piotr Domaradzki, and Adrianne Wadewitz? Wikipedians love commemorating their dead editors and obituaries make for good source material. Chris Troutman (talk) 22:28, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

I am familiar with the Sherwin and Wadewitz articles (though not the other two). I know this does happen a lot, though it also happens with other people about whom no one created an article until a bunch of obituaries about them pop up. It makes creating articles and establishing notability a lot easier, certainly, when someone dies, but that's not to say that there can't be sufficient reliable sourcing even with living Wikipedians (e.g. Justin Knapp, James Heilman, etc.) for notability guidelines to be met. Every morning (there's a halo...) 22:36, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

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Minimum deaths

Hi Everymorning,

We finally have a definitive answer: The minimum deaths for posting an article is 9. Some stampede in Caracas was posted with 9 deaths, while many of it's supporters were opposed to the Miami bridge collapse which had only six deaths. Both items had reprints of wire stories in major global publications but failed to maintain global headlines. I think it's settled once and for all, 9 deaths is the minimum. Would you please update your essay?

Thanks --LaserLegs (talk) 00:54, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

RfD WP:MINIMUMDEATHS

WP:MINIMUMDEATHS listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Misplaced Pages:MINIMUMDEATHS. Since you had some involvement with the WP:MINIMUMDEATHS redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. LaserLegs (talk) 23:31, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:BODYCOUNT listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Misplaced Pages:BODYCOUNT. Since you had some involvement with the Misplaced Pages:BODYCOUNT redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. ---Coffeeandcrumbs 23:35, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

GxE edits

See https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Heritability#Prominence_given_to_GxE_interaction_assumption_and_violation_results

Wiki Project Med Foundation listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Wiki Project Med Foundation. Since you had some involvement with the Wiki Project Med Foundation redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:47, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Original Barnstar
		Thank you for creating James Forman Jr.!Zigzig20s (talk) 06:02, 6 July 2018 (UTC)