Misplaced Pages

talk:WikiProject Lacrosse - Misplaced Pages

Article snapshot taken from Wikipedia with creative commons attribution-sharealike license. Give it a read and then ask your questions in the chat. We can research this topic together.

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Stoneice02 (talk | contribs) at 04:05, 1 November 2006 (Red Links in Members of the National Lacrosse Hall of Fame (alphabetical)). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Revision as of 04:05, 1 November 2006 by Stoneice02 (talk | contribs) (Red Links in Members of the National Lacrosse Hall of Fame (alphabetical))(diff) ← Previous revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff)

Box lacrosse versus Indoor lacrosse

My personal belief after 11 years of playing the sport is that there is no difference... just another name for it... just like Boxla... I'd like to see the two articles merged under Box Lacrosse and then have a little write up about the different names.. also, the article is in desperate need of being expanded... as an example we might want to look at: American football. DMighton 10:16, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree. I didn't even know there as a difference... atleast around these parts, the terms are used interchangibly. Vote to merge Stoneice02 20:05, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Well... the argument from an old discussion was that Indoor is different because 3 years ago they switch back to the old 4 quarter rule over 3 periods... and that they use turf. These rule changes are basically only for the top tier of the sport... the NLL... and mostly for aesthetics... green turf looks less ghetto than a cement floor... and four quarters allows for a halftime. DMighton 20:43, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
I think the basic question here is: Are box and indoor lacrosse different sports? Field and box lacrosse are fundamentally the same, but there are lots of differences, and the differences are big enough that they are considered two different (though related) sports, and thus require different pages to describe them. The differences between box and indoor lacrosse are relatively minor — the differences mentioned above aren't differences between sports, they're differences between leagues. The AL and NL use different rules (the designated hitter is one, but there are others), but nobody would say that they play two different sports. I don't think the differences in playing surfaces is relevant enough — some baseball teams play on grass and others on artificial turf in the same league. I vote to merge as well. --MrBoo (talk, contribs) 22:43, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I kind of like having them seperate but I'm going to vote to merge. --Yarnalgo 23:28, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree, Merge. DMighton 23:33, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Done. I moved the picture and other relevant information from the indoor lacrosse page over to the box lacrosse page. I will change the indoor page to redirect to the box page. Please let me know what you think. --MrBoo (talk, contribs) 23:17, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

New Page?

I just finished added infomation on the National Lacrosse HOF (see Lacrosse Museum and National Hall of Fame). There are currently 323 inductees into the HOF. Do we want to create a page tha lists them all? Stoneice02 04:42, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Hmmmm....my first thought is no - what we can do is add a category called National Lacrosse Hall Of Fame Inductees, and then go through each person inducted and add them to the category. The only drawback to that is that if pages don't exist for each person in the HOF, we'd have an incomplete list until we can add pages for each one.
I just looked at how the Hockey Hall of Fame did it - they have one page on the hall, another page for inductees sorted alphabetically, and yet another page for inductees sorted chronologically. So it looks like that's probably the way to go. MrBoo (talk, contribs) 10:19, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
I like that idea. I will start working on that this weekend Stoneice02 18:41, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Images

There are very few images on any of the lacrosse pages. Most NLL/MLL team pages have a logo, and there are a few other pictures on some of the team pages, but there are very few pictures on the player pages. I know very little about what images we are and are not allowed to upload. For example, can we upload pictures from the NLL web site, or individual team sites (eg. www.torontorock.com)? --MrBoo (talk, contribs) 17:22, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunatly, it isn't so simple. Most pictures you find on web sites are copyrighted (i.e. someone owns the rights to use it.) For further information on this, see the image use policy. The best way to add pictures, is often to take them yourself. Sometimes you can find pictures online that have been release with a license compatible with Misplaced Pages. These are usually from other amateur photographers. For example, you may be able to find some on Flickr (e.g. search within http://www.flickr.com/creativecommons/by-2.0/). I see that this one is compatible. But be careful, not all pictures on Flickr are free. -- JamesTeterenko 19:53, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Lacrosse player categories

There are categories for Category:Lacrosse players as well as ones for Canadians, Americans, and Australians. Should there be one for players of native heritage? If so, what should it be called?

Positions of players

Talk:Lacrosse#Position (team sports) may be provocative for your project. Anyway, Position (team sports) should at least list lacrosse (genus). --P64 02:06, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Questions

I'm moving some stuff from the main project page here, since they are up for discussion. Please place any comments you have or changes you make under the appropriate entry: --MrBoo (talk, contribs) 19:43, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

  • There are pages for the NLL and MLL as well as the Australian Lacrosse League. There are pages for both the WLA and OLA, but they need expanding. Are there any other lacrosse leagues?
Check out Category:Lacrosse leagues. So the answer is yes, there are other lacrosse league, but you mentioned all the pro ones (except A. WLA/MSL technically aren't pro, but they are the highest level of box, and B. the OLA is the governing body; their Senior A/"pro" (league that competes with WLA for Mann Cup) is Major Series Lacrosse)
  • There is no page specifically for the MILL - that page redirects to the NLL page. As long as some history of the NLL including the MILL remains on that page, that's probably fine.
  • There are very few pictures on lacrosse pages - we need more, particularly pictures of players! Can someone knowledgeable about copyright issues (i.e. not me) contact the leagues and/or teams to see if we can get images (that we are allowed to use) from them?

NLL teams that moved

Right now, Pittsburgh CrosseFire, Baltimore Thunder and Washington Power all redirect to Colorado Mammoth, the current name of that franchise. I think we should have different pages for each team. They'll obviously mention the history of the team and where it is now and such, but I would like to remove the automatic redirect. This goes for other teams that moved as well: Columbus, Syracuse, New Jersey (twice), etc. Note that Albany (now San Jose) and Montreal (now Minnesota) already have their own pages.

Any objections? --MrBoo (talk, contribs) 16:40, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Logos in team section of NLL

See Talk:National Lacrosse League#Logos in team section

OLA

Hey guys... I just got the stats for the OLA Junior B Lacrosse League from 1985 on... I will be adding them progressively and adding histories later. DMighton 04:26, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Stats for the Eastern Conference are posted and base pages created. DMighton 17:03, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Red Links in Members of the National Lacrosse Hall of Fame (alphabetical)

Some of the schools and affiliations in this article are red links. Please feel free to write articles or stubs!!!! Stoneice02 04:05, 1 November 2006 (UTC)