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Sources?

There doesn't seem to be any sourcing for the repeated claim that "soccer" is the preferred term in Australia. Personal opinion is no substitute for reliable sources. --Pete (talk) 18:30, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Pfft, you would reject any such sources out of hand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.171.214.213 (talk) 23:30, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Well, put 'em up and see what happens. Or admit there are none. --Pete (talk) 05:26, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

You just proved his point. Spinrad (talk) 08:55, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

The IP's point - FWIW - is a personal thing. If it affects WP at all, it comes under WP:NPA. My point goes right to the fundamentals. Where are the sources? Attacking me for requesting that material be sourced isn't how Misplaced Pages is supposed to work, now is it? --Pete (talk) 16:40, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

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The talk page on Soccer in Australia is commendable since it gives an insight into the kit colors. The page argues that the Football Federation Australia body ought to stick to the white kit to avoid the conflicting similarity between the Australian kits and south Africa kits which are both yellow and green. It also comments that Cambodia was not a communist state in 1965, but rather a monarchy. The page also suggests that the name soccer in Australia should be changed to Australia national team to ensure consistency.

Suggestions to improve the talk page include creating a disarm page that is more convenient. The term soccer also ought to be revoked and replaced with football since many people are more familiar with it. Furthermore, more expansion should be considered in the introduction to calm the undergoing disputes.

Participation in the sport has incredibly increased over the years based on an assessment done in 2013. Due to this, recommendations such as changing the manner of performance and the system can help develop players. Nevertheless, accentuation on coach edification have been integrated to support growing more professionals in the sport. (Ben Backley)With the most renowned competitions in the games, the federation has elevated more national based championships regardless of the infiltration in the municipal areas.Other competitions have also been introduced in several states to help up bring new players. Since there are no promotions and relegations of teams in the competitions, the federation have established more intense games to enable relegation and promotion of teams. Subsequently, this will construct a more established football to harness competition with other nations. Women and men’s soccer has dramatically improved due to countless efforts by the Football Federation Australia.(17) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Malha10 (talk • contribs) 17:27, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

The page gives a contradictory fact about the actual date when Wanderers F.C was founded. The accurate year ought to be 1880 but not 1830. The establishment of the game in Australia ought to be in the year1879. The given years between 1760s and 1779 are also incorrect accounts on the founding of the sport.(17) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Malha10 (talk • contribs) 17:28, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Skyring wants to re-open the football vs soccer war.

Earlier today I reverted an edit changing "soccer" to "football" in this article, with an edit summary that quoted policy - Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (Football in Australia). User:Skyring (AKA Pete) reverted, saying "It's no longer 1960. "Soccer" isn't the name of the game any more." This is a confrontational edit, firstly because it is in contravention of the above policy, and secondly because of that policy's history. This user and I were both major players in the very nasty debate around four years ago which led to the current policy. He didn't get the result he wanted from that debate, but has never given up. You will see another attempt of his to change the policy in the section titled "Sources" above, around two years ago. Today he is trying again, not in the correct way, but by defying the current policy and edit-warring.

I do not want another nasty fight. I submit that nothing has changed significantly enough in the past four years to cause the policy to change, and that User:Skyring is not editing in a cooperative way. HiLo48 (talk) 06:42, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Message left on his talk page reminding him of consensus per WP:NCFA. Fenix down (talk) 07:06, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that. What on earth makes you think I'm not aware of it? The world moves on, and frankly it's embarrassing to see this old term used for Australia's most popular sport, whose own governing body has long since moved on to the term used around the world. Time to reopen the discussion, it seems. --Pete (talk) 16:02, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

I'm not embarrassed. "Soccer" is the only name that makes sense where I live. HiLo48 (talk) 08:32, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

That's fine for you, then. The name was changed fifteen years ago, and there are editors keen to work on football-related articles who, I dare suggest, view your opinion with less flattering eyes than your own. What do you say to them? --Pete (talk) 09:09, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

See link to proposal below, where I suggest renaming "soccer" to football in football-related articles only. --Pete (talk) 07:59, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Is it soccer?

Clearly there is some dissatisfaction with the way Misplaced Pages deals with the name of the sport. I have commenced discussion at Naming_conventions (Football in Australia) and I invite contributions. --Pete (talk) 06:53, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

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