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Misleading?
Why did you call this edit summary misleading? Debresser (talk) 17:53, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
As to the content of the edit, why do you say it is not supported by the "Languages" section? I do see Aramaic there, e.g. Debresser (talk) 17:54, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
- Please review all the changes made in that edit. If you still don't understand why the edit summary was misleading (a very polite description) and the changes were not supported by the article, you should read WP:CIR. — MShabazz /Stalk 21:33, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
- Perhaps you could simply answer the question? I don't find your reply very constructive. Debresser (talk) 18:42, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
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Willis Towers Watson
What do you mean by "No articles about US corporations spell out "Corporation Incorporated" at the top of the infobox." I don't understand. I really really don't understand. Can you explain it in layman term please?
My argument:
- Willis Towers Watson is a company. Do you agree?
- Per SEC filings of 8K form on Nasdaq website, Willis Towers Watson's legal name is Willis Towers Watson based on (Exact name of registrant as specified in charter) sentence under the mention of Willis Towers Watson Public Limited Company on the first page. Should I provide the link?
- Name parameter of Template:Infobox company is legal name of the company. Have you ever read the documentation?
So, why my edit was reverted? I don't want to have edit war so I want to discuss it here. Thank you. MRFazry (talk) 15:55, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
- Addition: I became more confused after double-checked that the company is from UK, not US. MRFazry (talk) 15:59, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
- Hi MRFazry. I'm sorry if my edit summary was unclear. Please read Public limited company, Corporation, and wikt:incorporated. Most public companies in the UK are public limited companies and most public companies in the US are incorporated as corporations. Just to pull two examples, Apple Inc. doesn't spell out "Apple Incorporated" at the top of its infobox, nor does Aon (company) spell out "Aon Public Limited Company" at the top of its. So I can't see any reason why Willis Towers Watson alone should spell out its name as "Willis Towers Watson Public Limited Company" at the top of its infobox. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 20:19, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
- Okay. I have read the public limited company and corporation, but not the Wiktionary entry. Anyway, for my arguments, number 2 and 3, do you have your opinion or counter-argument? Or do you research yourself about the SEC filing or infobox company documentation? I'm happy you provide me links to research further. I want to match your kindness to provide links, so I want to provide some links too: Template:Infobox company especially Parameters section, naming subsection and this URL of SEC filing 8K form of Willis Towers Watson.
- The first article (public limited company), second paragraph: "In the United Kingdom, a public limited company usually must include the words "public limited company" or the abbreviation "PLC" or "plc" at the end and as part of the legal company name." Doesn't it support my arguments? Or, my English is really so bad? :)
- The second article (corporation), second paragraph of subsection Naming, section of Ownership and control: "In most countries, corporate names include a term or an abbreviation that denotes the corporate status of the entity (for example, "Incorporated" or "Inc." in the United States) ..." Doesn't it support my arguments? Or, my English is really so bad? :)
- From what I know, Apple Inc. is not written Apple Incorporated is because the legal name (name mentioned in document when they registered the company or something like that) is Apple Inc. not Apple Incorporated.
- Sometimes after company name and Inc./Inc/or something like that, there exists comma like Facebook, Inc. the legal name of Facebook.
- Sometimes company use inc. (not Inc., for example salesforce.com, inc.), sometimes company use Corp. not full Corporation but I don't remember what company use corp. not full corporation.
- There are few companies use full spelled Incorporated like Mars (Mars, Incorporated) or former name of Adobe (now Adobe Inc., the former was Adobe Systems Incorporated).
- How can we determine what company uses comma what company doesn't, what company uses dot after inc or what company doesn't, what company uses lowercase or what company uses uppercase? I think we can check company's own article of incorporation or its website terms of conditions if it mentions the legal name of the company. Or, if it is public company (listed on stock exchange) the legal document like SEC filing could help us to determine the legal name of the company.
- MRFazry (talk) 22:55, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
- Wow, you gave me 2 examples, I provided you 3 examples. Isn't that amazing? MRFazry (talk) 22:55, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
- I have to say, in all my years reading and editing Misplaced Pages, I don't believe I have ever seen an infobox like the one at Mars, Incorporated, that spells out the word "incorporated". I've undone my reversion at Willis Towers Watson. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 01:18, 5 November 2018 (UTC)