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Would it be good to have a list of administrators here? Jeronimo

Yup. -- Tarquin

At first blush, it sounds like a good idea to me. — Toby 09:27 Sep 20, 2002 (UTC)

You've been blushing a lot lately. ;) --mav

OK - Here is a list of every user. All that is needed is for somebody to search for "sysop" and write down the sysops user name here. --mav

I can do better than that! Run this query: SELECT CONCAT("*]") from user where user_rights != "" ORDER BY user_name and cut-n-paste. --Brion

Sorry about the inadvertent capitalization of your name, mav. --Ed Poor

No biggie on the capitalization thing but just be careful not to delete Toby's message next time. --mav

Actually, I noticed that when I did the Diff in History, and I was putting it back when we got an edit conflict. I was correcting the "m" as well as putting back his message, but you are faster on the draw than I am. --Ed Poor

Opps! Sorry about that. :) --mav

Hello. Something in one of Eloquence's messages to wikien-l has been confusing me. When he requested temporary sysop status in order to delete some pages, he added, "I've thought about making this possible for non-sysops by changing the code accordingly, but the security risk is too high." Changing the code? Doesn't that involve having "developer" status? He's not indicated as a developer on the Misplaced Pages:Administrators page, and I thought that the Misplaced Pages power hierarchy was a total order, so that all developers were sysops automatically. This is only idle curiosity, but since it is confusing me, I'd be grateful if someone could explain! -- Oliver PEREIRA 17:10 Jan 26, 2003 (UTC)

There are several different kinds of developer status:

• right to commit changes to our CVS server (I do have this right)
• right to directly access (via ssh) our server and alter the files stored there (I do not have this right since I have not asked for it; Brion, Ed, the Bomis folks and a couple of other people do).
• right to run read-only SQL queries using the Misplaced Pages interface; every sysop can do so, so I have this right while I have sysop status.

And no, developers are not automatically sysops. Jimbo has offered me permanent sysop status but I have declined (I prefer to be a non-sysop most of the time in order to better understand how the Misplaced Pages workflow can be optimized). --Eloquence 17:29 Jan 26, 2003 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the explanation! It seems that the power hierarchy is even more complicated than I thought. Ah well, never mind... -- Oliver PEREIRA 19:02 Jan 26, 2003 (UTC)

I just thought I'd better point out that Zoe seems to have been missed off the list. -- Oliver P. 21:23 Feb 19, 2003 (UTC)

She's on now. But what happened to Lee Daniel Crocker ?? His name didn't come up when I queried the user table. --Uncle Ed 21:39 Feb 19, 2003 (UTC)

I disabled his access while he was gone just so we didn't have an unused developer account potentially open to unnoticed cracking. Well actually, I meant to do that but forgot, and then accidentally didn't restore him when I mucked up the sysop accounts the other day. :) I'll put him back. --Brion 22:51 Feb 19, 2003 (UTC)

Could you please add a sv language link to Misplaced Pages:Administratörer? // Liftarn

Done Enchanter

Is there a good page around to show just what capabilities sysops have, and how to use them? For instance, I see that I can apparently block by IP address, but only (as far as I can see) from seeing them on Special:Recentchanges or Special:Watchlist. Not that I would imagine it likely I'd need to from the User page or a history page, but it'd be nice in general to have a HOWTO or something to see what all there is to it. -- John Owens 09:43 Apr 6, 2003 (UTC)

What, what WHAT!!! User:Rambot is a sysop??!! Why in the world is a bot a sysop? One glitich in the bot's code and it deletes 100 articles a minute! And since it is a registered bot these edits would not show up on Recent Changes! --mav

Rambot is *not* a sysop. Presumably someone made this list by checking for "user_rights != ", without actually checking the contents thereof. Registered bot accounts are marked with "bot" in the user_rights field. --Brion 05:25 Apr 10, 2003 (UTC)

Whew! Thanks for the info. --mav

Rambot, we hardly knew ye. -- John Owens

Before your time I suppose. Rambot created 30,000 articles on US places and then went through several runs to add more info to each of them. --mav

I'd gotten the idea of what it is, and figured it was responsible for a lot of those geographical/census pages that crop up about 1/3 the time I hit Special:Randompage, especially after I looked at some histories. Did it have anything to do with the 1911 encyclopædia too, or was that all by hand? -- John Owens

Actually, looking at it again now, Rambot's last major contributions were in December 2002, and I started here in October that same year (or a bit earlier, anonymously), so not entirely before my time. -- John Owens

Does this page need to be protected? I hear that soft security works well these days... Martin

• content moved to Misplaced Pages talk:Image use policy - User:Black Widow discusses the DMCA, copyright, cliques, and deletion of photos

"Four of these (in bold italics) also have developer rights." Well, no, I count 5. Koyaanis Qatsi

Who is User:Jasonr? Does he/Has he ever existed and should his name remain on this list? Tuf-Kat

Employee of Bomis, hasn't contributed for a year or so, but stops in occasionally to do admin stuff. Yes, he should stay. Koyaanis Qatsi 18:59 Apr 15, 2003 (UTC)

I guess my question was how can he be an admin when he doesn't appear to have an account. I'm sure he's a swell chap and all, and I have no problems with his sysopness, I'm just curious as to how it's possible. Tuf-Kat

He has an account; he just doesn't have a user page. Koyaanis Qatsi

Aaaah.... Tuf-Kat

Unblocking users

I've been thinking of writing a "unblock all IPs banned more than 30 days ago" script. And running it once a week. Any takers? --Ed Poor

Well, I was just going to add an automatic timeout to the banning system; the length of ban would be set when banning (default 30 days, options to less?), and when the timeout came up, they fall off the list. Sound good? (Also, there should be a log page listing bans, manual unbans, and automatic unbans.) --Brion 21:03 Nov 26, 2002 (UTC)