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LyubenaFox (talk) 16:09, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Hello

Thank you for your availability! I am new to Misplaced Pages and wrote an article about myself, since I am an up and coming artist, it was declined and speedily deleted. I read that it is possible to retrieve the text and for it to be put on my user page. Would that be possible?

Thank you for your time!

Regards, Lyubena Fox

(talk page watcher) Explained on their talk page. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:24, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Just for the fun

Hi! I said I missed you in T&S and then Fox told me you're still here. :D Would love to catch up with you. How are you? Trijnsteltalk 00:09, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Correction: you're even still on the WMF... Apologies. But I still like to hear something from you. Trijnsteltalk 00:10, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi, Trijnstel! So good to hear from you. :D I'm still around - not volunteering quite as much as I want, but hoping that I'll be able to soon! I'm well. How are you? :) --Moonriddengirl 01:02, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Nice to hear you're okay. :) I'm fine as well; busy as always with work (&Misplaced Pages ofc). But I love it, so I won't easily quit with it. Let's stay in touch! Trijnsteltalk 13:36, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of AKD Group for deletion

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Asian Highway AH48

Hi
I wanted to create Asian Highway related article titled AH48 where I learned that an article by same title has been deleted. What I want to create is something on lines of AH42 and AH44. I do not know what were the contents of deleted article AH48. If there are no issues with similar articles mentioned above, I will go ahead and create the article. Please advise. Thanks

Jazze7 (talk) 11:54, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello, Jazze7. The problem with that article was not with the topic, but with the content, which was copy-pasted from other sources. If you create an article that does not misuse other people's content and is otherwise within policy, it should be fine. :) --Moonriddengirl 13:15, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
Thank you Moonriddengirl. Clarification is well appreciated. Best wishes. - Jazze7 (talk) 13:27, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Arab diaspora - copyrighted material restored again after redaction

Hi Moonriddengirl, thanks for your work on fixing the copyright problem in the Arab diaspora article on October 20th. Unfortunately, someone has obtained the now-redacted material, and restored it again with this edit: Special:Diff/870692029/871005673. I've just restored the article to the last version before that. Could you maybe take a look, and redact the intervening edits? Thanks... --IamNotU (talk) 21:24, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, IamNotU, for your continued diligence there. :) I have rev-deleted and also tagged the IP, which is certainly being used for block evasion by the same user. --Moonriddengirl 21:51, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
Great, thanks for doing that! --IamNotU (talk) 21:57, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Copyright question

Can I ask a quick copyright question; if text in an article is a very close paraphrase of the source cited, would that be considered a potential copyvio? I've always taken the view I should write original prose with the source as supporting information. WCMemail 16:12, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Hello, User:Wee Curry Monster. Yes, if content is very closely paraphrased to a copryight protected source, it would be considered a potential copyvio. This is because close paraphrases are likely to be derivative works, and only the copyright holder has the right to authorize these. See Misplaced Pages:Copying_text_from_other_sources#Can_I_copy_if_I_change_the_text_a_little_bit? and Misplaced Pages:Close paraphrasing for more information. --Moonriddengirl 19:55, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
Thank you I appreciate the answer. This is the source mentioned page 15, the text in the Gibraltar article was The occupation of the town by Alliance forces caused the exodus of the population to the surrounding area of the Campo de Gibraltar. I have an editor restoring this, claiming that the text is not a close paraphrase of the source. Could I ask for your second opinion. WCMemail 12:18, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi, Moonriddengirl. If you have a moment, it would be great if you could give us some guidance in this specific case.
The sentence in Stephen Constantine's book is
Compounding this difficulty, the allied occupation of 1704 prompted the exodus from Gibraltar of virtually all the resident civilian population.
and the sentence in the article (summarizing information from Stephen Constantine's book and many other sources) is:
The occupation of the town by Alliance forces caused the exodus of the population to the surrounding area of the Campo de Gibraltar
According to your opinion and WP's guidlines, would you say this could be a case of copyvio? Thank you very much for you time! - Imalbornoz (talk) 21:29, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello, User:Wee Curry Monster and User:Imalbornoz. :) This is my opinion. I think as a stand-alone sentence this text is not too closely paraphrased. Many of the duplicative words are pretty standard, not striking, and the structure has been changed in many respects. That said, if I were doing this, there's one would that I would change. "Exodus" - it's not the most commonly encountered of words, and "departure" or perhaps "evacuation" (I don't know the context) would likely serve as well. I would also further distinguish by not following the core order of the sentence, which can be broken down "occupation prompted/caused the exodus", to something more like "The residents left the area after the Alliance forces took occupation of the town." That said, if this is the only sentence, it seems distinguished enough to me and as it is de minimis on top of that I would consider that the revision suffices. My only big concern would be if this were one sentence out of an entire passage that was paraphrased sentence for sentence, in which case you might duplicate the structure of a larger source.
Unless there's more content to cumulatively cause concern or there's some reason to avoid modification, might I suggest that perhaps changing "exodus" and perhaps tweaking order a bit further could settle the matter without further ado? :) --Moonriddengirl 03:01, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Thank you Moonriddengirl, much appreciated. Fondest regards and Merry Christmas. WCMemail 09:16, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Thank you very much, Moonriddengirl! - Imalbornoz (talk) 12:39, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Merry

Happy Christmas!
Hello Moonriddengirl,
Early in A Child's Christmas in Wales the young Dylan and his friend Jim Prothero witness smoke pouring from Jim's home. After the conflagration has been extinguished Dylan writes that

Nobody could have had a noisier Christmas Eve. And when the firemen turned off the hose and were standing in the wet, smoky room, Jim's Aunt, Miss. Prothero, came downstairs and peered in at them. Jim and I waited, very quietly, to hear what she would say to them. She said the right thing, always. She looked at the three tall firemen in their shining helmets, standing among the smoke and cinders and dissolving snowballs, and she said, "Would you like anything to read?"

My thanks to you for your efforts to keep the 'pedia readable in case the firemen chose one of our articles :-) Best wishes to you and yours and happy editing in 2019. MarnetteD|Talk 03:58, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, MarnetteD; that's a funny and heartwarming story and a very kind sentiment. :D I hope the new year brings you splendid things. --Moonriddengirl 02:26, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
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