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Misplaced Pages has WP:RULES which govern how editors should edit, how should they behave and how conflict gets mediated. Everybody is entitled to occasional mistakes, but persisting in mistakes will get you blocked from editing. Our wish is, however, that WP:RULES breakers repent from violating our rules and become instead productive editors. The decision to obey our rules is always personal, but it has enormous consequences for one's activity inside Misplaced Pages. I cannot decide for you, but I can tell you that it is wise to obey our rules. So, it's not that I like to see you blocked. I would like that you learn from your mistakes and become a productive editor. But if you are not up to the task, you will be blocked. I cannot ban you, in fact there is a single editor able to ban you from Misplaced Pages, that editor is you. The key point about getting to read about our rules is changing your behavior. We want you to behave according to the rules of our encyclopedia, if you cannot behave you will be blocked or banned.

I only revert edits for which it is clear to me that they are WP:CB (speaking from the viewpoint of academic learning), deteriorate the article or violate WP:RULES. I don't revert if these are uncertain. I think that you need to make up your mind if you are for or against our WP:RULES. If you're against our rules and act on that, you'll soon find yourself in hot water. If your edits are WP:PAG-compliant, they will likely stay, otherwise every experienced editor will have to revert you. By saying this I am not aggressive, I just tell it as it is. (Dutchies don't beat around the bush, but bluntly tell you what's wrong.) I'm blunt but not mean. I could appear mean, but in fact I am only defending the norms and values of this website. I am very hard with bigots, but reasonable and conciliatory with reasonable people. With people which present themselves as reasonable, I am much more conciliatory than other experienced users.

I don't hate editors as persons; I hate rule-breaking. I consider that any editor can change his/her mind/behavior at any moment. Few edit warriors do that, but that's another matter. As long as you know when to stop, you can get away with almost anything at Misplaced Pages. It's not the mistake which is a matter of being blocked or banned, but persisting in that mistake. Exceptions: outing and legal threats.

I'm not absurd: if you give me WP:RS showing that you're right, I will write myself from your POV.

A kitten for you!

Jesus loves you!

John1427 (talk) 20:36, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Jesus loves you

Hey, I just want to let you know Jesus loves you, but I don't agree with anything you said. The Misplaced Pages policies are flawed and flexible, as shown in the five pillars. And just because one Christian says one thing about following hard on the policies, doesn't mean I do either.

Highbrow isn't very persuasive to commonfolk, whom 95% of the world belong to, so the academia doesn't sway me either. I forgive you. John1427 (talk) 20:40, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

@John1427: WP:NOTDEMOCRACY. And certainly WP:NOTTHEOCRACY. Tgeorgescu (talk) 22:07, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Head Honcho

Dear Tgeorgescu, What are the requirements and qualifications for becoming a head honcho on Misplaced Pages? Having some knowledge of human behavior I suspect there are likely male individuals who attempt to become head honchos here because they desire personal glory and are control freaks. I would like to know your thoughts about this intriguing puzzle. Have there been complaints about such screwballs? Disciplinary action taken? In what form? Often? Please reply soon, Miistermagico Miistermagico (talk) 10:36, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

@Miistermagico: One cannot run such website without enforcing WP:RULES. Admins are not bosses over content, but over behavior, see WP:BURO. But, yes, there are policies and content guidelines which have to be obeyed by every editor. Tgeorgescu (talk) 10:50, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Dear Tgeorgescu, Thank you for your quick, kind and very informative reply. Miistermagico (talk) 14:34, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Church patriarchs

Forgive me if it is inappropriate to come to you directly with this: the initial act of vandalism on this page was to move it from "Church Fathers," presumably based on the religious motivations of the other recent vandalism. Could you please move it back? I would do it myself, but I am not yet auto-confirmed. Thank you. anthologetes 05:01, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Edit: see here anthologetes 05:02, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Solved. Tgeorgescu (talk) 06:04, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Re

I offended a vandal on the page of CSM Bucharest, look: did you see what he do? Regarding O-Zone, they are relocated to Bucharest, all the Moldovans who were promoted by Romania have citizenships. This is hilarous! I got along with the Hungarian users very well, I never disagreed on objective opinions. Christina (talk) 12:05, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

@Cristina neagu: I don't know much about sports. Anyway, I think that you should refrain from stirring trouble and avoid edits which could be seen as WP:PROMO. Tgeorgescu (talk) 12:09, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Yes, yes, my main area is not Eastern Europe but handball (women's handball more). East European clubs are stronger now there. I didn't disagree with the Danish user when he removed promo. But it was as promo as writing on Cristiano Ronaldo, Barcelona, Real Madrid and others were. CSM Bucharest and Gyor are the best clubs in Champions League, I explained very well to Clotilde but she disagreed. And I didn't insist anymore. Christina (talk) 12:12, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Da, imi pare rau ca am jignit acolo. Pe Misplaced Pages trebuie sa fim oameni totusi. A vandalizat mai multe pagini si face ca nici nu poti sa ii dai revert. Nu doar ca schimba echipele ca si cum ar arata in sezonul urmator, dar si adauga jucatori din burta. Si atunci m-am enervat. Christina (talk) 12:30, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Honest Servants

@Tgeorgescu. I respected your decision as Jesus respected the decision of the honorable Jewish Elders and the powerful Roman leader to crucify Him. After all, you are honest in serving those who give you the privilege to judge what could be said, or not, about the Gospel, mainly about Jesus sayings (though before hearing anything from me about them on the "Gospel" talk page). So your reaction may simply be a clear sign from Heaven to tell me that Misplaced Pages, you serve, is about anything but exploring the solid truths revealed by Jesus; a taboo even on the “Gospel” page. Anyway, I wish you the best while I appreciate your honesty. KerimF (talk) 16:47, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

@KerimF: We only render the views of WP:RS, not random musings about the gospels, see WP:NOTFORUM. Tgeorgescu (talk) 01:55, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Hello

Do you consider retracting the reclamation as a good Romanian and a gesture of good will? I really don't have bad intentions on Misplaced Pages as you see. I would have preferred for instance to talk on email about what's bothering you (to be more specified), Mr Georgescu! Because you are also Romanian like me or I am Romanian like you. I could have explained my point of view and even accept anything maybe. And of course, to respect the rules. Every of your reports are bad on my CV, I am sure your past is also not 100% according to the rules. Christina (talk) 17:01, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

@Cristina neagu: Well, I have nothing personal against you. Abide by the WP:RULES, don't perform WP:TE and I won't complain about you. Tgeorgescu (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

You would make a great gesture of humanity if you would retract your reclamation. Do you still want to retract the complaint? Just be a man! You can still help me if you want to do it. I am getting condemned harshly. Christina (talk) 19:49, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

@Cristina neagu: I think that you have been offered a chance to go with only a formal warning, but you have forfeited such chance. You do a pretty good job at... condemning yourself. Also, please mind that TBANs and blocks are not being punitive (i.e. penalties), these are only applied in order to prevent further harm to the encyclopedia. Tgeorgescu (talk) 19:57, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

@Cristina neagu: Look, please consider retracting it, if you have any heart. For me it's important to edit what I want. My user focuses on handball. This would also be an injustice to you or to any normal user on Misplaced Pages. I am a contributor, this is Marxism. Please turn right! Otherwise you didn't want to retract it, just to provoke me. Christina (talk) 20:00, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

@Cristina neagu: You first denounce me of alleged harassment and some minutes later you ask me to have heart for you? You come ~~along~~ across as totally immature. Either wait till you reach the age of 21, else see WP:NOTTHERAPY. Tgeorgescu (talk) 20:07, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Because you created this mess. You came out from nowhere, we didn't even edit one single page at the same moment in years. First you gave me talk page warning like you are some administrator, which you obviously aren't. Secondly you make complaint against me. Exactly like in school, I swear. But you didn't find the right man or woman in my case, I am simply a too good person, really patriotic but not crazy nationalist. Find out you did against Romania, and I really had some quality edits in every domain. So you are really treating me like an enemy from nowhere. This is very strange. I don't know, do you want to provoke women? Because I could do the same against you, but I am not that childiss and I really have a good heart. Christina (talk) 20:19, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

@Tgeorgescu: Vedeti ca nu am nicio legatura cu IP-ul din Brasov cu care aveti conflict pe Misplaced Pages romaneasca. Eu sunt din Cluj. Am vazut ca ati scris ca va hartuieste si ceva despre Misplaced Pages in engleza. Aceasta ca sa stiti ca nu am legaturi suspecte. Personal cred ca aveti probleme poate cu acesti useri, care se impun la articolele dumneavoastra, nu cu unul nevinovat ca si mine. V-ati razbunat pe cine nu trebuie dar poate ca doriti sa va delectati cu discutiile de la reclamatii. Sunteti foarte reclamant pentru un intelectual destul de mare. Christina (talk) 20:56, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Si prima data cand m-ati tras de urechi pe Misplaced Pages, partea cu holocaustul chiar o consider importanta si nu am dorit sa sterg sau sa denaturez. Cunosc si importanta holocaustului pe Misplaced Pages. Singurele chestii ce nu mi-au placut au fost cele de batjocura, dar nu referitor la aceasta parte. Partea cu holocaustul se repeta, eu citisem deja tot articolul, si postase in partea cu religia. Am lasat ca erau atatia evrei chiar in 1930, dar ce sa mai caute iar partea cu holocaustul la religie? Si dupa aia am mai adaugat si cati evrei sunt in ziua de azi in Romania. Ati tras probabil inca de la inceput concluzii gresite. Christina (talk) 21:14 16 February 2019 (UTC)

About being an admin: there was never a vote about me becoming admin, since I have never submitted my candidacy for adminship.

About users who have retired because of me:

Michael2012ro who claimed that several of my references were written by Antichristic Bible scholars (like David Strauss and presumably at least one of Michael Coogan and Bart Ehrman), see and ;
Mihaibarboi who accused me, among other editors, of writing historically (and "materialistically" — I'm not completely sure but I think he conflated the academic approach with materialism) about Christianity, see ;
Valimali67 aka JOrb who accused me and several other editors of violating the Constitution of Romania for writing "Isus" instead of "Iisus", see ;
Vladimir-Adrian who edit-warred for including pure evangelism preaching inside Misplaced Pages articles, see ;
Masahiro who pushed an extreme-right hate campaign against homosexuals through editing Misplaced Pages;
some Bible thumpers who dislike WP:ABIAS and WP:RNPOV, e.g. MFF2013;
some Nazis, Iron Guard adepts and other apologists of war criminals, e.g. Wamkihok indeffed for threatening with legal action in order to whitewash the article ro:Nichifor Crainic.

No thanks, we do not need users like this, whose purpose is sheer WP:ADVOCACY.

About Asybaris01: for the most part I have simply ignored him. It was the other way around: he would have liked to see me go away from Misplaced Pages, together with all mentions of Michael Coogan, which he regarded as threat to the national identity. He regularly displayed childish tantrums against editors whom he disliked. Generally speaking, he disliked the fact that Misplaced Pages is WP:MAINSTREAM, WP:NPOV and multi-ethnic (global and diverse). He disliked the idea that Misplaced Pages treats Christianity as a religion like any other religion, having no special privileges.

And no, no one punishes you for one single mistake. You would get a TBAN only for persisting in mistakes.

As a biologist it is very clear to me that our "base" morality comes from our biology. We are social mammals. Social mammals feel empathy for each other, and help each other out (reciprocity). They also enjoy the company of others, feel bad if they do things that harm others, will shun individuals that break social rules and all the other things that make them (and us) behave the way we do.
— James Johnson, Quora.com

This is the explanation for my AE request. Tgeorgescu (talk) 21:41, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Yes, you are poisoned by some non-biblical ideologies but your hatred is gonna bring you down. Please retract your reclamation, if you have any heart. Otherwise I am not gonna ask you again anymore. Just because I need time for Misplaced Pages adaptation doesn't mean I deserve such a thing. Yes, I will probably also leave because of you. You put people down without any remorse, "Christian"! Christina (talk) 10:50, 16 February 2019 (UTC)