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Old AE ban in Cirt v. Tlroche
Hi there. You may or may not remember me. On 16 December 2016 you sanctioned me in Sagecandor v. Tlroche as follows: "SashiRolls is indefinitely prohibited from commenting on AE requests to which they are not a party. " source
I wrote:
- This case should not be decided without looking more carefully into the accuser's history, especially this case at ANI and this talk page deletion which together seem to indicate a strong aversion to transparency.
As you are no doubt aware, User:Sagecandor was blocked as a sockpuppet of User:Cirt, which explains their aversion to transparency. Would you be willing to reverse your prohibition? I would not mind having the right to say something nice about Atsme. I would also think that since I was right back in 2016, perhaps I could be restored first-class citizenship and the privilege of fresh starting should I so desire, having no further outstanding restrictions on my editing. (I'm not sure I will exercise this privilege, I don't mind being transparent about my past and present.) Best, SashiRolls 19:02, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- You were sanctioned for the manner in which you expressed these concerns, not the concerns themselves. That the concerns turned out to be well-founded is irrelevant to the sanction. T. Canens (talk) 15:38, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- OK, taking the paragraph above, cited in teal above, what could be better? That explanation will help me explain to others why you think that this penalty should indeed continue beyond 750 days. If there's nothing wrong with that sentence, could you please provide a single example of what you find inappropriate. Thank you. SashiRolls 15:52, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- This has archived off your page. I haven't checked to see if you've been online; I'll restore this first to give you a few more days to reply. SashiRolls 13:57, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
- Again, it would be helpful if you could explain why this sanction was useful (in the end it did allow Cirt to continue to sock for another year, which I suppose some would argue was a good thing). More to the point though, I think it would be helpful to explain why, in your view, it continues to be useful. If showing it currently useful proves impossible (as I suspect it will), the simplest and best path would be to remove the sanction and restore my first-class citizenship. I am sorry that I bothered the AE folks when I noticed that Sagecandor/Cirt's diff #4 and #5 about Tlroche "forging a signature" were utter fabulations. I provided further evidence at that time that there was very good reason to take Cirt's prosecutions with a pillar of salt.
- Unilaterally lifting this ban does not require you to admit making any mistakes. Why do you think I should "confess", instead? SashiRolls 17:35, 3 March 2019 (UTC)