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CM Brotherhood

Do we know how significant was Shevchenko's association with СM? There were lots of legends created later that Shevchenko was a leading member and even a "close friend" of Kostomarov.

The fact is that Shevchenko was rather young at the time and definetely not the most significant member or thinker of the society at that early stage of his life. For example in the book "The Lands of Partitioned Poland, 1795-1918", by Wandycz at al, University of Washington Press, ISBN 0295953586 (p. 250) it says that Kostomarov was the CM chief ideologist and Shevchenko is called the "main artist", not much of a political role. "The Ukrainians", by Andrew Wilson Yale University Press, 2002, ISBN 0300093098, (p. 99), says that CM society "included Kostomarov, Kulish and indirectly Shevchenko). Of course Shevchenko has later become the best known of them all, therefore some sources tend to overemphasize his role, but even our article on him (Taras Shevchenko) says correctly that he was probably "not an official member of the Brotherhood".

There were plenty of other significant for that time figures that got into trouble when the CM was shut down, such as Panteleimon Kulish and Vasily Belozersky. No need to overemphasize Shevchenko in this context, I think. We can mention him in other places of the article since his career was certainly affected by the Ukaze. --Irpen 16:55, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

I just thought Shevchenko's initial arrest was a good landmark, in that readers who are only vaguely familiar with Ukrainian history would know of it, even if they haven't heard of the C-M Brotherhood. And as opposed to the ukaz affecting his career, this is a case where an event in his life contributed (in a very minor way) to setting the stage for the subject of this article. But feel free to remove if you don't agree. —Michael Z. 2006-11-18 18:15 Z

I won't want to remove, just some kind of rephrasing because in the current form Shevchenko's role in CMB seems overblown. We are ot talking about his role in UA culture, which was immensed, but in the narrow context of the article. --Irpen 18:21, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

But it doesn't say anything about his role in the brotherhood. How about "In the 1860s, a decade and a half after the Brotherhood of Sts Cyril and Methodius in Kiev was broken up, its founder Nikolay Kostomarov exiled, and Taras Shevchenko arrested for his suspected association with them?"