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		I've looked at your tireless contribution to templates. So i believe this barnstar should suit you. Ibrahim ebi (talk) 15:59, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

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		Thanks for your help to improve the Adopt-a-typo template. Much appreciated! Jason Quinn (talk) 16:50, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

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		For getting better performance and adding options to the chess diagram template. Bubba73 02:36, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Let me just second this (since you've got three on this page already). Thank you for all those well-framed edit requests you made to the convert sub-templates. ~Adjwilley (talk) 20:05, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for editing Sandhani page. Dr. Kabir Hossain (talk) 18:41, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

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	Module:testcase table is great! Thanks for making it! —hike395 (talk) 03:58, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

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		Thank you for being observant to other's (i.e. me) ham-fisted hacking and repairing damaged templates without fuss. You rock! FruitMonkey (talk) 21:11, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

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	For your work correcting the "year" field in 1000s of uses of {{Infobox Australian place}}. Much appreciated. Mattinbgn (talk) 19:53, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Wow. That was a quick work here! Happy editing! --    L o g  X   17:34, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

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	Thanks for you work on tables and templates! -- Wywin (talk | contribs) 18:35, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

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		Thanks for all your work replacing instances of {{convert/spell}} with the new Lua compliant {{convert|...|spell=in}} AdmrBoltz 20:54, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

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		Frietjes, I would like to thank you for taking care and fixing the oil field infobox even without asking. It was really kind of you. Beagel (talk) 17:59, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

A kitten for you! Thanks for all the updating of the population data you are doing on Queensland places! Great work! Kerry (talk) 00:32, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

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	Thank you for adding team colors for college basketball players. Temple of the Mousy (talk) 19:53, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

tireless template help Thank you for quality help in all kinds of template questions, even creating a template that should not be needed rather than "some hack of div tags and html tables", finding solutions with sense and offering them with kindness, - you are an awesome Wikipedian! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:01, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

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		Thank you so much for your fix at Template:Infobox winery. You've just fixed something that had been a small annoyance to me and probably others for a long time. SchreiberBike talk 00:46, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

On a number of occasions now I've noticed you've made a whole series of benificial but tedious improvements to various currency articles. These are mostly the type of improvements that are behind the scene's (formatting, wikifying, etc.) and thus might go unrecognized, so I wanted to take a moment to thank you and let you know it's appreciated. Gecko G (talk) 20:49, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

	Nice work!
	Thanks so much for the work on the Nanjing districts template! Your input on the template itself and placement within articles is extremely helpful! I had posted two questions about how to format it and you resolved both issues! It's very much appreciated and looks really nice now. CaroleHenson (talk) 15:16, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

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	Nice work on {{Taxation}}! You do a lot of work in neglected areas, and it's always a big improvement. bobrayner (talk) 12:46, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for patrolling unused templates and nominating them for deletion. The cleanup is very useful. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:17, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

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	Thanks for the article changes :) Viktor O. Ledenyov (talk) 14:07, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

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		Frietjes, thank you for your excellent work streamlining the color coding used in navboxes for college football and other college sports subjects. Jweiss11 (talk) 06:26, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

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	For your unceasing work on the many WP Templates, I hereby award you this Barnstar YSSYguy (talk) 23:25, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

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		A big thanks for your help with putting in grid-numbers in info-boxes: it works like dream! With best wishes, Huldra (talk) 22:02, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

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	For your endeavor in template cleanup, where I sometimes feel overwhelmed, and wish I were more like you. -- ] {{talk}} 19:55, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

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Thank you for quality help in all kinds of template questions, even creating a template that should not be needed rather than "some hack of div tags and html tables", finding solutions with sense and offering them with kindness, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:01, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting my sourcing mistake on Defense of the Reich. Much appreciated. GeneralizationsAreBad (talk) 19:58, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

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	for the amazing work you do everyday and the help you provide to the CHECKWIKI project. Magioladitis (talk) 11:41, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Thank you, thank you, thank you for fixing this! —  dainomite   15:11, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

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	For you hard work at cleaning up templates. Just checked my watch list and it BLEW UP with all the changes you made. Keep up the awesome work! Zackmann08 (/What I been doing) 04:05, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

hi, thank u for editing in my page user :) SURDUSVII 17:51, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

For helping me today! Magioladitis (talk) 16:06, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

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	Thanks for monitoring the talk page for Module:College color/data and adding the support for references proactively. —Bagumba (talk) 02:46, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

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	For improving ISBN checks! Magioladitis (talk) 18:58, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Cookies makes me happy. I hope hey make you too :) Magioladitis (talk) 22:43, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

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		Thanks a lot for merging {{Infobox Jain temple}} with {{Infobox religious building}}. You deserve this. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 19:02, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

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In 2015 you were one of the top 300 medical editors across any language of Misplaced Pages. Thank you from Wiki Project Med Foundation for helping bring free, complete, accurate, up-to-date health information to the public. We really appreciate you and the vital work you do! Wiki Project Med Foundation is a user group whose mission is to improve our health content. Consider joining here, there are no associated costs, and we would love to collaborate further.

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		You have been awarded a barnstar by WikiProject Middle-earth for your tireless effort of cleaning up template shortcuts. De728631 (talk) 19:16, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

My wikilove again and again!! Magioladitis (talk) 19:31, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Three years ago ...

tireless template help
... you were recipient no. 441 of Precious, a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:01, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your contribution to the draft of the National Science Museum at Maynooth AugusteBlanqui (talk) 19:55, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

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	Thanks for all of your help at Module:College color... you ROCK! It would be no where where it is today without you!!! 🎓 Corkythehornetfan 🎓 23:09, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Trying to make up for being nasty. Was having a bad day and you, unfairly, paid the price. Maragm (talk) 13:51, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

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		This Barnstar of Diligence is awarded to Frietjes for persistence and diligence in emptying Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls, which contained tens of thousands of pages with errors, over the last two years. Thanks, from one gnome to another. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:16, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

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	Thank you, template guru! bd2412 T 21:10, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

-For solving the uniform riddle we've had for 6 years, putting your mad tech skills available to the Wiki community, fast and cheerfully! --Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 02:54, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

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	For your continued assistance with modules and templates. Thank you for being such a joy to work with and for being so responsive to requests for assistance. Keep up the awesome work. Zackmann08 (/What I been doing) 20:30, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

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For your continued work on templates, particularly your dedication to templates that are insanely complicated, such as Template:Infobox country. Everyone wanted that template converted to use {{Infobox}}, but no one (including myself) wanted to put in the time and effort to make it happen. Way to step up and get it done! Keep up the amazing work. Zackmann08 (/What I been doing) 18:35, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

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		Thank you User:Frietjes for those amazing improvements you made to Holocaust infoboxes: concentration camp and Holocaust event. This is what I call, putting advanced knowledge of formatting into the best possible use for the benefit of our project. All best, and thank you again, Poeticbent talk 16:02, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

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	For eliminating mainspace articles in Category:Pages using infobox map with x or y by creating location maps, I award you this barnstar! Thanks so much! —hike395 (talk) 05:02, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Precious

Four years!

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		for your outstanding work in developing a technical template to convert coordinates from German to English Wiki format; something which has caused problems for years and will now save thousands of nugatory editor hours. Well done and thank you! Bermicourt (talk) 17:35, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

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		For your wonderful work! Huldra (talk) 21:47, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

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	For your incredible work on Module:Sidebar games events. Not just the fact that you got that done, but you are such a pleasure to work with. You have a wonderful attitude, are eager to work with others and help a n00b like myself. You are truly a stellar wikipedian. THANK YOU! Zackmann08 (/What I been doing) 17:29, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

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	thanks for being so helpful —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 21:40, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

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	Thank you for your valuable contributions! You are a valuable contributor on Misplaced Pages! Pkbwcgs (talk) 18:26, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

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Hi Frietjes I Respect Your opinion, I try To merge these pages to the main Volleyball box page but It seems technically hard for me, I tell the creator of volleyball box page to add these categories, He didin't Reply at all So I have created these pages I think its a useful solution. so please I hope to keep these pages, cause when you delete it all. It will deform the panorama in other linked pages. thanks Elly mino (talk) 22:05, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

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	Well Thank You for your Last contributions, Great Work Elly mino (talk) 13:51, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

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		Thank you for your help in creating Module:Location map/data/Japan complete. It will prove useful in a number of articles. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:32, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

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	Great work on several templates, especially sports-related ones like Template:Sports_rivalry_series_table. It's made them more compact and easier to use. Keep up the good work! WuTang94 (talk) 21:34, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

A goat for you! Just a reminder that you are awesome. Left a message on your page asking for some help, and MINUTES later, you were all over it. People like you are what make Misplaced Pages awesome. Zackmann08 (/What I been doing) 19:22, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Precious

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	Many many thanks for note translation on: https://en.wikipedia.org/User:Ggerly/sandbox Ggerly (talk) 16:17, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

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Frietjes

Editor of the Week for the week beginning March 8, 2020

Persistent and dedicated work implementing and replacing tens of thousands of uses with Module:Sports table without much recognition. One of the top edit counts of all time with an amazing 750000 edits.

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Seven years!

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		To Frietjes for transforming the WNBA rosters. Beautifully done. Thank you! -SusanLesch (talk) 02:53, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

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		For awesome help with templates always willingly given. Schwede66 19:11, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

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Just wanted to say a massive thanks for your work on the Election results template. Not only is it a big help for getting some consistency in presentation, but the automatic totalling and percentage calculation has helped identify several errors in the tables (both from editors mistranscribing numbers from sources, and mistakes in the sources themselves) by comparing the automatically-calculated totals/percentages with those given in the original tables/sources. This will be a big help in maintaining accuracy! Number 57 22:32, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Precious anniversary Precious Eight years! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:41, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

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		Thank you for your dedication to Scouting! --evrik  20:24, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

thank you for the help!! I am new to this whole process :) Heather Brittany Xaricam 17:51, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

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	Forgot to give you one of these for having done some large unseen work to remove NavFrame. :^) Izno (talk) 17:36, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Precious Nine years! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:56, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

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	For your script findargdups. Truly a wonderful tool. Happy Editing--IAmChaos 03:11, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

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		Your tireless contribution to templates, and template syntax's has been noticed. So I believe this barnstar should be awarded to you.  The Emperor of Byzantium  (talk) 15:12, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Frietjes,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Misplaced Pages.
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Frietjes,
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Been away for a few years due to health issues. Just dropped in for a bit to do some editing and wanted to say howdy! Zackmann (/What I been doing) 18:59, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

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		Amazing work in fixing all the broken #section-h transclusions! Thanks a million!

Always precious

Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:42, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for changing volleyball templates to Module:Sports table/Volleyball in every Volleyball competitions related articles. ♒️ 98TIGERIUS 🐯 17:04, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Hello there, thanks for all of your contributions to Misplaced Pages! Wishing you a Very Merry Christmas and here's to a happy and productive 2024! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:21, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

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	There isn't a barnstar for most article page moves in 24 hour period so this will have to do! Liz 01:50, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

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	Thank you for helping out with the article I was writing, I appreciate it! Have a nice day! I am a new user, someday I'll write an article (talk) 20:38, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

thank you for your contributions!! :D xRozuRozu (t • c) 21:03, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Location map Kingdom of Hungary

From my talk page back in september.

Bugger bugger bugger, I saw a map in the transport museum in budapest we went the other week and it had the lat and long but in pretty much a mercator projection. My missus was more interested with the toy trains so I didn't get a chance to take the measures off it. If it's wrong (as it is) it should be deleted but I am still trying to get the measures right. The thing is it's specifically Kingdom of Hungary, but the more atlases (atli? :) I look at the more different lats and longs I get. And anything one does on Hungarian articles is rather contentious, so it is probably really better deleted. Because people whose great grandfathers were part of the Kingdom of Hungary will say no that's Croatia or Slovakia or Slovenia or Yugoslavia or Jugoslavia or The People's Republic of East Kebab. Since Hungarian politics is very contentious and goes on racist grounds in far more than would be allowed in where I come from, this is better off deleted. (Hint: say Treaty of Trianon to a Hungarian and await results.) Si Trew (talk) 09:36, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

I never did get round to this. I took the coords off of file at right, which is very high quality but seems to have an odd idea of where 0 longitude is (it suggests it is east of Paris, but that didn't seem to work). As you suggested, I tried to take well-known points at the edges of the map: Fiume, for example, at south-west. I took very good readings after printing out this map at A0 size and using ruler and compass, my trig is quite good, but I could never get it to fit. Si Trew (talk) 06:02, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

.Oh, Template:Location_map_Kingdom_of_Hungary/test might help you. You see, Fiume's in the right place but Budapest is a bit too far left and the rest are well out. Si Trew (talk) 06:09, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

That map uses the Paris meridian. It's not a Mercator projection, the lines of latitude aren't quite parallel. Maproom (talk) 20:09, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Maproom, thanks for the tip. I have written code for generating coefficients for nonlinear projections if I know the functional form. but, the code requires at least as many reference points as there are coefficients. basically a nonlinear least-squares algorithm. the problem here is that other than the reference markings on the side of the map, it's tough to get reference points in the middle. Frietjes (talk) 21:18, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Si Trew, should we just give up on Template:Location map Kingdom of Hungary and have it deleted? Frietjes (talk) 21:20, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

How many do you need in the middle? You get get a reference point near each corner by specifying where the nearest line of (Paris) longitude would cross the nearest line of latitude, and use towns like Szolnok (which Google Earth says is 47°10'N 20°11'E Greenwich) in the middle. Maproom (talk) 21:37, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Maproom, now that I look at it again, I think we have enough with the two interior intersection points and the points along the edges. the original question was about the image in Template:Location map Kingdom of Hungary which is less clear. for File:Hungary-ethnic_groups.jpg, I think we can make a working location map. thank you again. Frietjes (talk) 21:42, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Just a thought, maybe not very coherent at this time of night. Using an ethnographic map as a location map may, as Si Trew pointed out, be contentious. Will it help if instead I upload to Commons this map? It uses a Ferro meridian, which is no worse than Paris, and shows enough towns such as Szolnok for central reference points. Maproom (talk) 22:02, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Maproom, that may help. let's see what Si Trew says. my main focus is turning map images into working location maps. I don't really have a strong feeling about the particular map image, so long as it is created with a well-defined projection. Frietjes (talk) 22:06, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Just asking out of curiosity – how do you "turn a map image into a location map"? Do you warp it into the Mercator projection that the template requires? Or do you supply the template with a transform function? Maproom (talk) 07:24, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Maproom, supply the transformation function. see, for example, module:Location map/data/Canada. if I know the functional form and a sufficient number of reference points, I can numerically solve for the coefficients. Frietjes (talk) 12:40, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. It's reassuring to see that things are done in such a sensible and comprehensible way. Incidentally – if you ever find a map image at http://maproom.org/ that you could use in Misplaced Pages, please let me know and I'll put it on Commons. Maproom (talk) 09:46, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for pinging me in on this. I know it was a long time ago. User:Maproom, yes I did guess it was the Paris Meridian all that time ago, but that didn't seem quite to fit either. Since then I took something and with Inkscape made a four-colour map (five if you include Lake Balaton as a fifth colour, blue, but could have been made a fourth colour as those that surround it are all in three other colours, it is just more pleasant to have it in blue but not mathematically necessary) and split out all the layers and borders and so on into separate layers on the SVG. I seem to recall I called it Template:Location Map Hungary2 or something – and I emphasise this is not the Kingdom of Hungary but the modern-day Hungary. All I had left to do was get the text labelling right. Searching for "a new look for an old map" was something roughly want some commenter said, may well have been User:Frietjes here but may not have been (a long time ago, just going from memory: and those exact words are what was printed on the front of the first H C Beck fold-up London Underground Diagram (often called "Map"; Beck himself never called it a map: I have good references for this from publications of the London Transport Museum in woodware) of 1933, so I am probably confusing those words with the same sentiment expressed. This is all such a long time ago, I give as hints for those who can search better than I.

On the plus side, by pure coincidence (these are not common around here in Budapest) my local pub has a nice 1898ish German (I think) map of Austria-Hungary; certainly pre-Treaty of Trianon. This is a five or six colour map and I am pretty sure it is in German but I am going from memory, I don't think it's in Hungarian. It would be about 40 by 25 inches (1,020 mm × 640 mm) and I daresay somehow I could get it scanned in, in one of the largescale printers in the town (who I happen to be also on good terms with, for various other reasons) or just take four A3 scans and stitch them with photoshop, assuming that my scanner doesn't distort too much. I am on good terms with the landlord as I have given him my British registration plates and various other British pub memorablia, it is that kind of pub, very much a "local", so I can ask to borrow the map (it's framed) or just go in on a quiet afternoon with a straightedge etc and try to get some measures off that. I think it is not the same as the image is here, though quite similar. As a start shall I get the maker etc, would that help at all, before I do the trig etc off it? I have a very good straightedge and fifty quids worth of setsquare adjustable protractor that I use for technical drawing on my A0 drawing board, it's about 25 inches (640 mm) long on its hypotenuese, which should be enough to measure angles and distances with some kinda veracity, I am not sure of the projection without looking again. Is it worth me taking a look and reporting back, probably will be about UTC+2 Friday tomorrow, else Monday? If you give me some nice trig points "in the middle" I will do my best to give you the readings off of them. These won't be 100% accuracy but will be within a second of arc or two through the distortion of the glass in the frame, I would imagine. Si Trew (talk) 16:05, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

I understand if it is WP:COPYVIO etc but if I check the maker first, it may very well turn out not to be because of the date and also various other "things that have happened since", could well be PD or fair use. I think I check the maker first, that is clear enough in top right corner but don't remember offhand. Would that be of any use, at least to confirm or deny if it's the same as this one? It reminded me of this one, when I first saw it, but I think it is different but of about the same time. Si Trew (talk) 16:40, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

File:Hungary_location_map.svg is the one I made the four-colour svg version of. It just needs tidying on the text labels layer if I remember right, I can't remember its name. The computer it was on is long gone. File:Hungary location map2.svg? Something like that. We have File:Hungary location map-2.jpg on Commons, but that's not it, cos it's not four-colour and has labels in Cyrillic, is a jpg not an svg. Perhaps unfortunately it got deleted as unused. I'd need to ask an admin to dredge from about 2009 onwards. Users working on it would have been mostly me and perhaps occasionally the missus, no longer editing at Misplaced Pages for many a year due to very harsh and undeserved comments after excellent translations of English articles about the Tudors into HU:WP (something she is an expert in, more than I know and I'm bloody English): Her username was/is User:Monkap. Si Trew (talk) 16:51, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

OK, the map you included wrongfooted me, this is exactly the map that is nominated (duh!) I was looking at the map you included on the right. No, don't give up on it, I'll try to fix it. It is nearly OK, all the coords and borders and counties etc are done on separate labels and I think it is much better than the boring brown map transcluded via {{Infobox Hungarian settlement}}. We just need to fix the edges and fix the text-label layer for some reason the font doesn't scale properly, I never did work out why, I shall try again. One reason to separate into different layers in a good GIS fashion is so that with a flick of the wrist one can turn off all the labels, turn off e.g. the county borders, make all the counties brown and just fill one particular county in a different colour (for Hungarian county articles) etc etc etc. I hand-edited the XML for the SVG to make it all nice, it's much much nicer than its predecessor for putting into a GIS etc because each county edge and county border and county name etc is labeleed in a very consistent fashion. The underlying SVG is File:Kingdom_of_Hungary_counties-2.svg. The polygons for the borders go actually in a kinda "cogwheel" order so that some going anticlockwise have their boundaries against the others going clockwise, rather in a toothed gearwheel manner, but that was just my pedantry; each county actually has its own borders as it did on the original, but on the original the borders for e.g Budapest to Pest County were a bit different from the borders of Pest County to Budapest, i.e. there was a gap or overlap, which now there is not in "my" version, they have all the coordinates bang on, as I did them all in hand in the XML not with some "snap it roughly to where it looks right" tool. All the bordering points have the same coords but the opposite directions (clockwise or widdershins) which helps the SVG polygon fill get it right without overlap or gap.

I think we should keep it and try to fix the labels and the "fix" coordinates for it. I suppose this was a labour of love but I think it does make it better than what is used in the infobox, it scales except for the text labels and the old one has errors in the border coords that leave gaps or overlaps, it just doesn't seem so at the scale used in infoboxes, as the rendering of the borders and the pushpins for the places are far larger than the errors, at even a large-screen resolution scale. If you blow it up and print it onto A0 (paper size) is is noticeable. Si Trew (talk) 17:05, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

The text labels are fine on my I think 1972 across screen in full view. When I made this I think I had a 1024x768 screen. It's when the labels are all squished they don't scale down properly, and get all scrunched up, I have never quite worked out why. There is a style that governs it, and I tried all sorts of things but none worked. Si Trew (talk) 21:04, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Advice

Heyo. I wanted to get your advice. Looking for my next big project and I stumbled upon a number of templates that need to be converted. {{Infobox actor awards}}, {{Infobox author bibliography}}, {{Infobox producer discography}}, {{Infobox K-pop artist awards}} & {{Infobox awards list}} are all similar in structure and style. Obviously there are some differences. I don't think it would be possible to combine them all into one template, but before I start converting them to Modules, I wanted to get your thoughts on whether it might be worth trying to create a generalized Module that would work for all or at least some of them? I noticed that Module:Infobox video game awards already exist and could possibly be leveraged? Anyway, curious what your thoughts are. --Zackmann (/_{What I been doing}) 21:21, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Zackmann08 until relatively recently, it wasn't possible to style individual rows in an infobox, which is why so many of these were not converted to {{infobox}}. now, there are the "cellstyle" parameters in {{infobox}} to style the cells in a particular row. it could be useful to have a common lua backend for some of these, but I haven't looked at them in any detail. I just remember the per-row colouring problem being the reason why they weren't initially converted to {{infobox}}. Frietjes (talk) 14:11, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Oh sweet! Cool, I'll look into that... I'm just about done with the Geobox project and looking for my next mountain to climb. If you have any projects you are working on that could benefit from a second set of eyes, or any projects you've been meaning to get to but haven't, I'm always looking for suggestions! Thanks a mill. --Zackmann (/_{What I been doing}) 17:58, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Zackmann08: You might find some interesting work within Category:Deprecated parameters. I find that sometimes parameters are deprecated and then a long time passes before they are systematically converted and removed from the template. Nota bene: It's always worth posting on the template's talk page before diving in, as current page watchers may have forgotten why the parameters were deprecated, and sometimes (the horror!) a drive-by editor has categorized parameters as deprecated without telling anyone or getting consensus. Ambitious template-cleanup-editor beware, but there is good work to be done in there somewhere. (And if you want something a little less controversial, you can usually find a few years' worth of work at Category:Unknown parameters.) – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:04, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

@Jonesey95: Oh I'm all over the Deprecated params! Just got a BRFA finished up but that is one of my favorite categories to work on. I need to clear it up a bit because there are a few categories in there that really don't fit with "Deprecated". There are a couple of them that are more error tracking. Thanks for the tip! --Zackmann (/_{What I been doing}) 18:09, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Infobox river quirk

Frietjes (and @Jonesey95: if you want) would you mind giving {{Infobox river}} your expert eye at some point? I'm seeing some weird spacing issues. If you look at the documentation page where it is rendered the sample... There is some extra spacing between the bottom of source1 elevation and the start of source 5. When I inspect the HTML, it is actually rendering empty TRs. Do I need to add some parser ifs or am I missing something else? Not a huge problem, but if you have a moment to look it over. --Zackmann (/_{What I been doing}) 20:36, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Zackmann08, this is a quirk with using child infoboxes. the easiest way to fix it is add 'display:none' to the data cells housing the child boxes. i.e., add |rowstyle9=display:none and/or |rowcellstyle9=display:none and similarly for all the cells which house only child infoboxes. Frietjes (talk) 20:42, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Zackmann08, I am a little surprised that this hack is needed since the function at the top of Module:Infobox is supposed to fix that problem. Frietjes (talk) 20:57, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Yea. That's one of those cans of worm I've never been able to bring myself to open. :-p --Zackmann (/_{What I been doing}) 20:59, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Zackmann08, looking closer at Module:Infobox, it looks like it is just be fixing the unmatched tag and spurious newline problem. basically, infobox with one cell is generating something like '<table><tr><td colspan=2>data1</td></tr></table>' or '<table><tr><th colspan=2>header1</th></tr></table>' depending on whether or not the cell is a data cell or a header cell. now, you pass a child infobox through (effectively) |data1=</td></tr><tr><th>label1.1</th><td>data1.1</td></tr><tr><td> or |header1=</td></tr><tr><th>label1.1</th><td>data1.1</td></tr><tr><td>. for a data cell, the tags match, but you get two blank rows. for a header cell, you get mismatched tags and blank rows. the child has no idea if it is being pass into a data cell or a header cell, so the parent fixes it so the tags all match. it only adds the 'display:none' to the last blank row, not to the first one. adding it to the first one would have to happen outside the fixChildBoxes function. I believe function is only for (1) fixing the mismatched tags caused by child boxes, and (2) removing any spurious newlines between consecutive child boxes in the same cell. so, you still need to set display:none for the parent if the cell has child boxes only (and no other content before the child boxes). Frietjes (talk) 21:12, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Maybe I'm looking at something different, but I'm seeing <tr><td colspan=2> ]</td></tr> between the "Source" section and the "5th Source" section in the example infobox in the Infobox river documentation. I don't see where that category is coming from, but I suspect that my inability to parse the Lua code for the Infobox module is to blame for my failure to find the problem. Is it possible that child infoboxes generate this category on their own and by default, and could the category be suppressed by adding a parameter to {{Infobox river/source}}? If the category could be suppressed, the entire row might go away. I may be chasing rabbits here, but that's what I'm seeing. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:30, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Jonesey95, I am not seeing that category, but maybe I am not using the same Special:ExpandTemplates? when I look at Template:Infobox river/testcases, I see that the sandbox is slightly shorter, due to the addition of "display:none" to most of the blank rows. Frietjes (talk) 21:50, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Infobox school merged template archives

Hi Frietjes, I can see you were the one that produced the "merged template archives" for {{Infobox school}} which is really good; makes things so much easier. I just wanted to ask you that you know because Infobox UK school is being merged into it (set to be redirected after last parameter discussion and bot run is complete), I want to do the same for the UK talk page. Any ideas on the best way to do this, as those templates only have one page of discussions whereas the UK one has three archives and the current talk page. Maybe "Template talk:Infobox school/Archive UK school 1" or "Template talk:Infobox school/Archive UK school/1", or have all discussions on one page but maybe too long, I don't know. Also, think it might be best to leave this to you as you did the other ones, but I don't mind doing it. Please let me know, thank you Steven (Editor) (talk) 21:08, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Steven (Editor), that would probably work to keep the history separate. although, I don't know the best naming convention. looking at Special:PrefixIndex/Template talk:Infobox school/, it seems like none of the others has more than one archive. I would probably use "Template talk:Infobox school/Archive UK school 1" to avoid making them show up as "subpages" of a non-existing talk page. Frietjes (talk) 21:17, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, erm how about {{Talk archive navigation}}, would this still work? Maybe change it to {{Archive navigation}}? What should I do for the current talk page, should that become what would be "Archive 4" so ending in 4 or become "Template talk:Infobox school/Archive UK school" or should this be left for Archive 1? Steven (Editor) (talk) 21:37, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Steven (Editor), it looks like {{Talk archive navigation}} allows you to set a prefix assuming that the automatic linking doesn't work. Frietjes (talk) 21:56, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Ah okay, thank you and I can see that you added an archive list but I don't think this is needed because the {{Talk header}} already shows the archives at the top with search and all the necessary info about the talk page as the main focus; I personally prefer the previous merged template archives box, I don't know, what you think? What are your thoughts about the naming convention for the current UK talk page? Steven (Editor) (talk) 03:58, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

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Translating citations

Hi. I just wanted to say that whatever you did with this edit was really helpful and saved me a lot of time, so I wanted to thank you in person. By the way, did you use a special tool to do it? Since I've been working on this new draft, I just wanted to know whether you can do the same thing again or not. Regards! Keivan.f 05:31, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Keivan.f, the script that I used is "User:Frietjes/citetrans.js" it adds a "Citation translation" button in the list of tools to the left of the edit window. Frietjes (talk) 14:19, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Hello again. First of all, I just wanted to thank you for your help with translating the citations. It made my work so much easier and I was able to translate the articles much faster than I had expected. I tried to use the tool myself, but unfortunately I wasn't able to figure out how it works, so would you mind translating the remaining citations on this page? Keivan.f 02:18, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Keivan.f, no problem. if you want to install the script, open User:Keivan.f/common.js in edit mode and add the line

importScript('User:Frietjes/citetrans.js'); // ]

once this is added, you should see a Citation translation button in the "Tools" section on the left side when a page is in edit mode. Frietjes (talk) 13:10, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi. I felt the need to mention that thanks to your help I was able to finish translating numerous articles. Now only two articles remain for translation before I go on a break. The text is available here, and I followed your instructions and attempted to translate them myself but unfortunately I got confused during the process. I'll be glad if you translate the citations yourself whenever you find some free time. Thanks. Keivan.f 01:10, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Chembox

Ok. So I've decided to at least attempt to take on {{Chembox}} as my next challenge. I wanted to see if you and @Jonesey95: might be interested in teaming up to collaborate on this? I have a tiny proof of concept going at User:Zackmann08/Chembox & User:Zackmann08/Chembox/identifiers. Happy to walk you through my thought process but I first wanted to gauge your level of interest. IMHO Chembox is one of the most complicated templates on wikipedia. It has something like 150 sub-templates that are used. I think it would definitely benefit from having multiple sets of eyes. Anyway, let me know your thoughts? Obviously no firm commitment required, but before I dive in completely, I want to get a sense of who else might be interested in joining the party. If you have any other users you think might be interested, let me know? My thought is to start a discussion on a talk page somewhere and get a plan of action together. Thanks in advance! --Zackmann (/_{What I been doing}) 18:04, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

I put your two test pages on my watchlist. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:45, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

@Jonesey95: I went ahead and moved it to the template space. See Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Infobox_chemical/. {{Infobox chemical}} used to redirect to {{Chembox}} but had 0 transclusions so I'm taking it over (put warnings in place to prevent it being used in an article since it isn't ready). Would love some feedback. One question right off the bat, is there a better way for me to do the testcases for Template:Infobox chemical/identifiers/testcases. Both transclusions need to be wrapped in a different template. I was trying to find a way to use {{testcase table}} but couldn't figure it out. Is there a trick I'm missing? --Zackmann (/_{What I been doing}) 21:22, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Canada template

How can we fix the problem with the template....why are we collapsing all the sections out of the blue. Why are we making readers click show 5 or 6 times in one template?-Moxy (talk) 16:41, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Moxy, please point to an example. Frietjes (talk) 16:42, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

when the template is used in our other templates.... it collapses the subgroups hiding the majority of the links....see it at the bottom at Canada. In fact all of a sudden things are collapsed all over. . Our history templates our culture templates everything.--Moxy (talk) 16:44, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Moxy, I don't see any collapsing subgroups in Template:Canada topics. the entire box is collapsed, but that is only because it is next to another navbox, and autocollapse says "collapse when there is more than one". Frietjes (talk) 16:47, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Does look fine at Template:Canada topics but the sub sections are collapsed when in an article. Will take a screen shot in a bit.--Moxy (talk) 16:55, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Moxy, for some reason the module wasn't recognizing the 'subgroup' parameter in every case. after some changes, Canadians looks correct, so I believe it is working now. if you see a page with a problem, try (1) open the page in edit mode, (2) make no changes, (3) save the page. this will purge the page. if that doesn't fix the problem, let me know. Frietjes (talk) 17:20, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Infobox awards

I hate always coming to you and I did try posting at the WP:VP/T... But if you can spare a moment for a question... I'm working on converting an old school infobox from table format to using {{Infobox}} and {{Infobox3cols}}. Is there a trick to making a data or label a specific color? I'm looking at Template:Infobox_actor_awards/testcases. Notice on the left how "awards", "wins" and "nominations" are a different color then the rest. There is an argument that all these color violates MOS:COLOR and that is a discussion I'm planning to have later, but for now just trying to figure out how to technically achieve this. I know there is |rowstyle#= & |rowcellstyle#= but can't seem to get either of those to work the way I need. Thanks in advance. --Zackmann (/_{What I been doing}) 21:40, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

User:Zackmann08, this version should be close to the same appearance. Frietjes (talk) 23:12, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

You didn't have to do all that!!! THank you tho... --23:22, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

Just spent some time looking at User:Frietjes/fb.js... How... I mean holy hell... That is some serious find and replace my friend. --Zackmann (/_{What I been doing}) 06:32, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of unused Geological period category nav templates

I've proposed the deletion of a number of unused Geological period category nav templates. You're welcome to join in the discussion. Thanks! —hike395 (talk) 13:43, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

India national football team results

Can you please re-edit the article, as because just before you did your edits, an user changed the format of the article which become a confusing one, so i had to reinstate the article to previous format, so your edits were also changed but i find it difficult to do the same, causing some proble with "infobox"specially in the "2019" section. I hope you will look in to it. Thank you. Dey subrata (talk) 11:04, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Dey subrata, sure, I have re-removed the page from Category:Pages where template include size is exceeded. Frietjes (talk) 13:33, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Frietjes. Dey subrata (talk) 13:43, 14 December 2018 (UTC)User:Dey subrata

Football box

I seem to have a problem displaying the {{Football box}} template in Chrome. Using the current template, nothing appears. Using the pre-Lua version (which I've saved to the template sandbox) it appears ok. As an example, I've saved some instances here. In Edge / IE both versions appear ok for me, but in Chrome, the new versions just don't appear (so the section containing them is blank). Spike 'em (talk) 11:39, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Works fine for me in Chrome 70.0.3538.110 for Mac. Have you tried logging out of your WP account to see if that changes anything? – Jonesey95 (talk) 11:57, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

I did try running incognito before testing, it had same problem, and is the same logged out or logged in. I'm using Version 71.0.3578.98 on PC (I upgraded this morning, but was getting the same behaviour on whatever version I was running before too). I'll check how it looks on Mac later. Spike 'em (talk) 12:13, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

You might try posting at WP:VPT. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:12, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Spike 'em, it's more likely the use of templatestyles than it is the use of lua. I will try to find Chrome on Windows to see if I can reproduce and fix the problem. Frietjes (talk) 13:42, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

The main difference in the HTML is the latest version has tag <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r872445988" /> which isn't in the older version, which may tie into this. I don't know enough about using Lua to see how to test this / try to remove that section Spike 'em (talk) 13:47, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Spike 'em, yes, that's the tempaltestyles. how it works is that the module or template adds a css block at the top of the output, and can then use that css within the template to style it. if the same css block appears multiple times on the page, the server "de-duplicates" the result, removing the repeated blocks. the end result can be much smaller in bytes, which is better when you are loading the page on a device with limited bandwidth (e.g., on a phone over a phone network). the use of templatestyles shouldn't be a problem, but the particular choice of the class definitions and how the classes are applied could be browser dependent. I will have a look as soon as I have access to Chrome on Windows. I will assume that I can use Windows 10 with the latest Chrome browser? Frietjes (talk) 13:53, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Spike 'em, and can you let me know if you have the same problem with {{football box collapsible}}? Frietjes (talk) 13:54, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

collapsible appears fine for me (I've added the same matches to my test page as collapsible). I'm using Win 10. Spike 'em (talk) 14:06, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Spike 'em, I just downloaded Chrome on Windows 10 and checked Template:Football box/testcases. I am not seeing any problems there other than the time in the Penalties example is left-aligned instead of right-aligned. this alignment difference is only with Chrome (not with Firefox or Edge on Windows 10). maybe clear your browser cache and/or try ctrl-R to force "reload" of the page? Frietjes (talk) 14:12, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Turns out it is AdBlock removing the content rather than Chrome, sorry for wasting your time. Spike 'em (talk) 14:21, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Spike 'em, glad to hear you figured it out. if you had not posted here, I wouldn't have found and fixed the left-/right-alignment problem in the Penalties example, so you did not waste my time :) Frietjes (talk) 14:23, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

This is a steep learning curve, but I think AdBlock is blocking the class "fbbox". I've created a style.css for the template sandbox and replaced "fbbox" with "fabbox" in both the stylesheet and the module sandbox code. The sandbox template / module now loads with AdBlock enabled, but the main one does not. Is this something that should / could be changed in the main version (with a more sensible name than fabbox, which was the first thing that came to mind)? this stackoverflow article mentions that AdBlock etc look for things with "ad" or "fb" in, so I started trying to rename elements. I've not used a .css file before, so I don't know how valid my search and replace was. Spike 'em (talk) 15:13, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Spike 'em, we could use "footballbox" at the risk of increasing the size of the html output. Frietjes (talk) 15:15, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Spike 'em, I changed the class names. hopefully this is better? Frietjes (talk) 19:30, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Looks good now, but as an aside, I can't reproduce the original problem anymore using the sandbox pages! Thanks for your help. Spike 'em (talk) 09:48, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Football box collapsible

Hello, Module:Football box collapsible in Arabic won't collapse see here for example. Can you help me?--Sakiv (talk) 20:30, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Sakiv, it looks like the Arabic wiki requires a <th> for the collapsible to work, so I changed the first row cells from <td> to <th>. depending on the settings on that wiki, that may make the font bold and text centered, so I added font-weight:normal. if that is not the case, try removing those lines. if the alignment isn't how you want it, try adding css('text-align','left') or whatever where you need it. Frietjes (talk) 20:53, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for making it collapsed. But there is still a problem that is very complicated. I tried but I did not succeed.--Sakiv (talk) 21:29, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Sakiv, what is the problem? Frietjes (talk) 21:34, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

It has become scattered.--Sakiv (talk) 21:46, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Sakiv, I don't understand. Frietjes (talk) 21:47, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

The teams, time and date were straight but after collapsing they scattered and appeared in different directions.--Sakiv (talk) 22:25, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Sakiv, I changed it to use 'mw-collapsible' and 'mw-collapse'. is that better? Frietjes (talk) 22:37, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Yes sure and thank you very much :)--Sakiv (talk) 00:24, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Speed Skating templates

Hi Frietjes, can you help organize some speed skating templates relating to the World Cup seasons? These World Cup seasons are held each winter and consist of a number, normally between 5 and 10, competition weekends. These season articles, e.g. 2015–16 ISU Speed Skating World Cup now show two templates, {{2015–16 ISU Speed Skating World Cup}} and {{Infobox Skating event}}. The {{Infobox Skating event}} template adds little to the article besides showing the begin and end dates of the season and the links to the previous and next seasons. Questions: 1) Can these bits of info be added to the season template so that the season article only has to contain one template? 2) Each season now has its own template. Is it possible to make a generic World Cup season template that can be used for all the seasons? --Wolbo (talk) 18:42, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Wolbo, I have to go right now, but will have a look tomorrow. Frietjes (talk) 18:44, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

That would be great. Thanks. --Wolbo (talk) 18:46, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Wolbo, okay, let's start with the desired appearance of the resulting box. I added the dates and succession links to Template:2015–16 ISU Speed Skating World Cup, but we could move these around. having a master template makes sense if there is a pattern that we can exploit. I do see some similarities in the events, but some differences between years. Frietjes (talk) 13:27, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Can you try the navigation links at the bottom of the template (like the tennis infoboxes)? --Wolbo (talk) 18:59, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Wolbo, okay, how is that? Frietjes (talk) 19:02, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Prefer that option, easier to navigate and also shows the date range more clearly and cleanly. Looks good to me. Do the V T E links at the bottom need to be there? --Wolbo (talk) 19:08, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Wolbo, the benefit of the V-T-E links is to allow editors to change the content, when the content is stored in a separate template. however, if we have the content in the article instead, the V-T-E links would not be helpful. so, if we are able to have a generic world cup season template, it would be likely that the V-T-E links would not be needed. Frietjes (talk) 19:39, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Frietjes, how about I add succession links to Module:Sidebar games events? Seems like a lot of templates would benefit from that. Just a thought... --Zackmann (/_{What I been doing}) 19:12, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Zackmann08, sure. Frietjes (talk) 19:40, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Peace Dove Christmas

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Template used on Surbiton Park

Hello, Frietjes. This is just to let you know that I have replaced the template. Thank you for your suggestions. LynwoodF (talk) 18:24, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

And thank you, Frietjes, for fixing my error at the {{Number systems}} navbar! Something I've been wondering... take a look at my next edit. When you fixed my error, it caused the navbar to be collapsed on that template page. I've found that sometimes (rarely, actually) the <includeonly> tags are needed or the navbar is collapsed on its page. Most of the time just the use of {{{state|autocollapse}}} expands a navbar on its page, but every once in awhile, the includeonly tags are needed. I haven't been able to figure out what is different in those navbars like "Number systems" that makes them collapse unless the includeonly tags are used. Do you know why that happens? Paine Ellsworth, ed.    20:15, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

User:Paine Ellsworth, a few things: (1) the default is autocollapse, so {{{state<includeonly>|</includeonly>}}} is functionally the same as {{{state<includeonly>|autocollapse</includeonly>}}} (2) the includeonly makes it functionally {{{state}}} on the main template page and {{{state|}}} everywhere it is transcluded. (3) there are three cases for state: (a) collapsed, (b) autocollapse, (c) everything else. so when you pass {{{state}}} this is the same as expanded. when you pass blank, it gets converted by Module:navbox to autocollapse. (4) the reason why autocollapse makes the box collapse on the main template page is that there are two navboxes on that page. if there is more than one box on a page, the autocollapse makes them collapse by default. if there is only one box on a page, the autocollapse makes the one box expanded. Frietjes (talk) 20:22, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Funny, because I've always just assumed that two navbars must be "one on top of the other" for autocollapse to result in collapse. Never tested that, just assumed it. Thank you for bursting that bubble, thank you very much! And here's hoping that you get everything you want this year!  Paine  21:01, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:S-line/SZM left/7

Template:S-line/SZM left/7 has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Jc86035 (talk) 10:50, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Nomination for merging of Template:Infobox Korean name

Template:Infobox Korean name has been nominated for merging with Template:Infobox Chinese. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you.

Hi, you seem like someone who works to maintain {{Infobox Chinese}}. Due to this I invite your participation in this discussion. Thanks, DanielleTH 15:42, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Template:Timeline of fashion

I just split Template:Timeline of fashion from Template:Historical clothing. I seem to recall you have access to a tool to check to make sure that each one is "transclusion complete", so that "bidirectional" holds. It would be great if you could help by removing the templates from pages not linked, and adding it to pages with links but where it's not transcluded. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ 13:49, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

sure. the tool can be found here. Frietjes (talk) 15:52, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the link! Plastikspork _―Œ 19:42, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Module:Sports overview

If you have a chance, could you look at Module:Sports overview? It appears to be working, but I wasn't sure how to make the invalid input work. Also, I am sure you could simplify some of the redundant code. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ 23:54, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Plastikspork, looks great. I added the unknown parameter tracking. do we need the |c= parameter? it would seem more intuitive to comment out rows that should not be displayed? Frietjes (talk) 19:22, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Probably not. Feel free to remove it if you think we can safely do so. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ 14:12, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Link-ja

Template:Link-ja has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Primefac (talk) 17:42, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Module:Location map/data/Russia North Caucasian Federal District

I need help, I tried to create one but the results were out of place. RainbowSilver2ndBackup (talk) 07:21, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

I need immediate help. RainbowSilver2ndBackup (talk) 19:30, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @RainbowSilver2ndBackup: You're using template syntax in a Lua module is the cause of this error. ∰Bellezzasolo✡ Discuss 19:35, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Is it okay if you can fix this? UPDATE: OK, never mind. Thanks. RainbowSilver2ndBackup (talk) 19:39, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

@RainbowSilver2ndBackup: They're not in the right place, and I don't know enough about equidistant conic projections to just fix it. However, the result isn't currently horrific. ∰Bellezzasolo✡ Discuss 19:43, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

National squad template

I notice that you have been editing the {{National squad}} and the {{National squad no numbers}} templates, so I've come here for some advice. The National Squad template is used in a number of golf templates, eg {{2017 United States Presidents Cup team}} but in an odd way, using the list= style rather than the p1=, etc. I've tried using National squad no numbers using p1=, etc which sort of works but has a couple of issues. Firstly, because I'm not using pos1=, etc I get an extra space after the dot. Secondly. I don't want to use the word "coach" - I want to specify a title like "non-playing captain". Strangely I can specify the titles (using pos1, etc) for all the players (which I don't want to do) but can't specify the title for the coach. Perhaps the answer is that I'm using the wrong template anyway, one only designed for football. Nigej (talk) 10:04, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Nigej, okay, I made some changes. you should be able to use |coach_type=Non-playing captain for the non-playing captain, and if you use the no numbers template without any positions, you shouldn't have any extra spacing. however, if any the players have positions, you will still have some extra padding for the ones without positions. Frietjes (talk) 15:12, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Everything works exactly as you described. Thanks. Can I ask another question? Generally it seems that people use different templates for different squads eg {{England squad 1950 FIFA World Cup}}, {{England squad 1954 FIFA World Cup}}, etc. when it would be possible to have a {{England squad FIFA World Cup master}} template with a year parameter and put all the squads in one place, using #switch or similar to produce the different squads. Is there a reason for this or is it just personal choice? Superficially it seems that putting them in one template would make "global" changes easier and maintenance too, albeit with a loss of efficiency perhaps. Nigej (talk) 15:40, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Nigej, mostly for efficiency and code readability. if you put the switch inside, you would really want to use plain list markup for readability, since you couldn't really use the |p1= parameters. if you put the switch on the outside, you wouldn't really gain anything other than having all the squads in one place. the main reason for rewriting the template code in lua was to reduce the expansion complexity to avoid placing pages in Category:Pages where template include size is exceeded when there are multiple squads on the same page. increasing the expansion complexity would likely cause problems for pages with many squad navboxes on the same page. Frietjes (talk) 15:46, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

OK. Thanks for the explanation. Nigej (talk) 16:00, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

fb script

Can you enable me to use the script so that I can sometimes do some cleanup (such as convert common tables to module)? Thanks! Hhkohh (talk) 08:41, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. Can you upgrade the script that we can use script to convert from the league table without using common table/template to module (such as these articles)? Thanks, Hhkohh (talk) 14:45, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Hhkohh, I will see what I can do, but whatever I come up with will require human eyeballs since that type of table tends to be very fragile. I will let you know when I have something. Frietjes (talk) 14:48, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

by the way, it's good we got a rollback given edits like this one which erased most of the article :( Frietjes (talk) 15:37, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Here is another silly people: put adjust points note in Qualification or relegation column Hhkohh (talk) 05:27, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Too many articles which LazyDane converted to module need to be adjusted, so I suggest you should review this editor contributions, thanks Hhkohh (talk) 05:40, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Hhkohh, okay, I put something in the script. (1) in the first pass it attempts to convert to the fb cl2 templates and shows you the diff, and if nothing went wrong, you can press the "convert fb" button again. (2) it _does not_ check to make sure that the points are correct, and does not add any dp or bp, so you will need to set |winpoints= |drawpoints= |losspoints= for non-standard cases _and_ you will need to fix any point corrections. (3) it _does not_ check to make sure that pld = w + d + l. (4) it assumes a particular ordering of the data, so it may fail if the data isn't in the expected order. let me know if it fails horribly on any pages and I will see what I can do. Frietjes (talk) 16:54, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

fine to me in this edit, but fb script did not work successfully in 2018 Barbados Premier League and 2017–18 Martinique Championnat National and so on because script ignored some teams Hhkohh (talk) 10:05, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Hhkohh, yes, that format wasn't in the original list of 6, but they should work now. Frietjes (talk) 13:28, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

there is another format, so the script is down again: here is an example Hhkohh (talk) 05:13, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Hhkohh, should work now. Frietjes (talk) 13:05, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Another issue

It seems that fb script cannot convert 2018 Malaysia Premier League#Positions by round to module. Can you help me? Hhkohh (talk) 15:17, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Hhkohh, I converted that one. writing a script to do it would take some time, and very difficult to get all the color/legend logic correct. is this a common problem? Frietjes (talk) 15:44, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Frietjes none currently, but I try 2017 Malaysia Premier League and 2018 Malaysia Super League, but why I see <!-- FB STYLE style="width:10px; background:#fcc;"| --> after clicking convert fb in my preview? This is a common issue that exist FB STYLE error tag Hhkohh (talk) 15:55, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Hhkohh, if you see that, it means the script was unable to convert the style to a color. in this case, it was the width: that was screwing it up, but I fixed that. so, it should work better now. Frietjes (talk) 16:04, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Module:Location map

Hi, I want to know if you may help me with an issue that we have on the Macedonian Misplaced Pages, on some places in the infoboxes we get this message: (Грешка во Lua во Модул:Location_map, ред 125: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)) or to completely translate it, it says : (Error in Lua in Modul:Location_map, line 125: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)). Do you know what is the reason for this and how we can fix it ? Thank you Инокентиј (talk) 19:19, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Инокентиј, I think I fixed it with this edit. the other option would be to translate 'latitude' in the coord2text function. Frietjes (talk) 20:48, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi, it worked thank you again Frietjes. Инокентиј (talk) 20:57, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Southern Football League clarification

Hi, I've just seen that you reverted some template conversions on Southern Football League season articles. Is there anything specifically wrong with these conversions? I checked them when they were done by another user and made a correction (two points for a win) but I didn't see anything else wrong with them. Would appreciate clarification. Cheers, Del_Usion23 (talk) 19:30, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Delusion23, I will redo them shortly. basically, the editor in question had a very high error rate converting tables in about 1400 articles (wrong win points, removing hth information, massive removal of match information, wrong classification, etc.). so, the only way to make sure there were no errors is to redo the conversions :( Frietjes (talk) 19:34, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the explanation :) Del_Usion23 (talk) 19:38, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Delusion23, I think I am finished redoing the ones that I reverted today. let me know if you see any problems. for example, compare Tonbridge in which is one of the classification errors made by the editor in question. it looks to me like Tonbridge was not relegated, checking the next season, and the source. it could be useful to add a note for why Tonbridge was not relegated if we know. thank you! Frietjes (talk) 20:23, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

It looks like there wasn't any official relegation from that division of the Southern League back then. Wisbech Town simply left the league voluntarily at the end of the season and joined a lower league. Cheers Del_Usion23 (talk) 20:29, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Question!

Hi Frietjes, hope that you're well. I was wondering if you could help me find a way to extract or search for matching entries things on our database of unused reports (Misplaced Pages:Database reports/Unused templates/1) - for example, things last modified for 2010, or entries featuring the word 'test'. If I could do this, and consider the results in a nuanced way, I think it may significantly help clean up the effort to cleanup background template clutter. --Tom (LT) (talk) 01:26, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Tom (LT), for the last modified date, you can sort the table by that column. for the word "test", do you want to look within the template content, or in the template title? Frietjes (talk) 14:53, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

I can see that, but the two issues I'm having trouble with are that I'd like to have a wikifiable list (without me having to strip all the table coding & etc) to propose on TfD, for example, and secondly generate this list based on the combined 20 or so pages of unused templates, rather than repeat each search individually. --Tom (LT) (talk) 01:53, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

ADDIT (following up on the perennial question, why is Frietjes' talk page on my watchlist? Oh yes, that's right). Thanks for your help here. A couple of editors managed to find a way to generate lists as I was mentioning above so this problem can be considered solved. Hope that you're well, --Tom (LT) (talk) 06:24, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Script assistant needed

do you have a script that can fix the infobox format? (see IP messy edit) Thanks, Hhkohh (talk) 05:36, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Hhkohh, try "User:Frietjes/indent.js" it also aligns the "=" signs if it detects extra spacing before the "=" for more than 2 lines. Frietjes (talk) 14:51, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

I would like to use this, but I don't know how. I have added it here. Now what, how do I run it on a particular article? MB 21:08, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

MB, open an article in edit mode and you should see "indent" in the tools (now added you to the approved user list). Frietjes (talk) 21:10, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Great, I see it now. Thanks. On another subject, can you look at Arizona Territory capitals. I want the Template:Arizona to be collapsed. MB 21:13, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

I have been using this to indent infoboxes (aligning the =) while making other changes. Today I was reverted with a comment of "makes it harder to edit on Mobile". I left that article alone and kept indenting other articles and then received a message on my talk page asking to stop. Have you ever encountered this? MB 19:46, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

MB, due to ambiguity, U.S. state templates frequently use |collapse_state= to avoid confusion with the U.S state name. Frietjes (talk) 21:16, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

I was following the documentation in the state templates, which is in Template:Collapsible option. Looks like something needs to be changed. It has over 100k transclusions. It it right in all but the 50 US states? Do they need a different template that specifies |collapse_state= instead? MB 21:33, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

MB, I think I fixed all of the 50 states. Frietjes (talk) 22:00, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

MB, this search shows about 500 templates using |collapse_state=. I don't know how many are using {{collapsible option}} as well. Frietjes (talk) 22:06, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

These are cases that use |collapse_state= instead of |state=, right? I follow that, but not the rest. If there is anything you want me to work on just let me know specifically what to do. MB 22:40, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

MB, yes, that is correct. if you want to make sure none of these have incorrect documentation, you could look through them, check to see if they are using {{collapsible option}}, and if so, make sure they have |parameter_name=collapse_state. for example, checking Template:NRHP in Mercer County, New Jersey, I see that it is incorrect, so you could fix it as I fixed {{Arizona}}. if they don't have {{collapsible option}}, then it's probably okay, since no documentation is better than incorrect documentation :) but, if you don't have time or interest, then I wouldn't worry about it. Frietjes (talk) 22:52, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Would it be wrong to add it to any that don't have {{collapsible option}} so there is documentation (i.e. is it always the correct documentation for these cases)? MB 00:36, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

MB, so long as it has {{{collapse_state it should be correct to add it. if it has {{{state as well, then both may work, so the extra |parameter_name=collapse_state may not be needed. Frietjes (talk) 00:39, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

All done, either changed or added. I taught myself more about AWB, and it might save someone else some trouble in the future. So a worthwhile exercise. There were two protected templates on the list that were part of some bigger hierarchy, in case you want to look at those (but I don't remember which ones). MB 15:02, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

User page edit w/o edit summary

Care to explain? Levdr1lp / talk 06:36, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Levdr1lp looks like it was to remove your page from Category:Pages using gallery with the captionstyle parameter. the module was refactored to use the <gallery>...</gallery> tag, so any values passed to the captionstyle parameter are now in the outer container, and not on the individual captions. since this has possible strange effects, any values other than text-align:center are tracked for inspection and repair. for example, your page, where the captions are not visible due to the white text on the white background. if you would like me to fix that for you, let me know. Frietjes (talk) 14:44, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Parser function errors

Some pages that you've created today are showing up in Category:ParserFunction errors (the ones in the Module namespace in that cat). I don't know enough about coding to figure out what went wrong, but if you look at the pages themselves, each is displaying, beneath the module documentation, the actual code you entered. That looks wrong. Deor (talk) 18:03, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Deor, which page? Frietjes (talk) 14:16, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Well, there were about six of them; Module:Location map/data/Bogotá savanna was one that I recall offhand. They've disappeared from the maintenance category now, so I guess all is well. Never mind. Deor (talk) 16:00, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Deor, seems plausible. it was probably a server caching issue, when you move a location map module, you can get errors if the doc/module pages aren't purged after the move (or the doc page isn't updated to point to the new name). if it's a caching issue, you can fix it by purging the page, or just wait for the server to do it. Frietjes (talk) 16:05, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

An invitation to discussion

I kindly invited you to the discussion on Template talk:Infobox election#The Bolding issue to decide whether to bold the winner in the election infobox. Lmmnhn (talk) 19:03, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

WP banner issue

Hi Frietjes. I've noticed an issue with many WP banners – the importance rating doesn't display when entered. See e.g. Talk:2019 Kiribati parliamentary election or Talk:2019 Botswana general election. This commonly seems to happen where the banner is a shell for a wider project (Micronesia or Africa in these cases). Any idea what the issue is? Cheers, Number 57 21:06, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Number 57, the issue is that {{WikiProject Kiribati}} is a wrapper for {{WikiProject Micronesia}}. when you specify importance, it's not clear if you are specifying it for both the Micronesia project and the Kiribati project, or only for the Kiribati project. I just made this change so it is specified for both, but I don't know if that is entirely correct. better would be to substitute the wrapper template and fill in the importance individually. Frietjes (talk) 13:57, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of VIF Airways for deletion

Hi, A discussion is taking place as to whether the article VIF Airways is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

Please do comment. Thanks. Trinidade (talk) 03:41, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Adding {{infobox mapframe}} as a parameter of {{infobox settlement}}?

Hello, would this be possible? It appears the mapframe template uses either the Wikidata or an OSM relation ID. The discussion is here. Thank you. —Sanglahi86 (talk) 02:52, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Sanglahi86, I see no reason it isn't possible. How to implement this is a more significant question, but all I see that needs passing is the ID - so it could be a single parameter. Incidentally, it's already possible to use a mapframe, as demonstrated to the right (hijacking |image_map=) ∰Bellezzasolo✡ Discuss 02:58, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Template:CFB schedule entry—issue with linked scores

Frietjes, how's it going? You may have noticed that there's issue with Template:CFB schedule entry properly displaying when the content of the score field is wikilinked to an article for that specific game, e.g. 2005 Texas Longhorns football team. Can this be fixed? Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 01:55, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Jweiss11, should work now. by the way, unusual score formats typically pop up in Category:Pages using CFB schedule with an unusual score, where unusual means that the module is seeing an unexpected format. Frietjes (talk) 12:46, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Looks good. Thank you! Jweiss11 (talk) 15:12, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Found another example with a similar problem. Looks like there are one or more obscure cases where scores contain fractions; see: 1880 Centre Colonels football team. Can we fix this? Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 01:03, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Jweiss11, yes. I made a fairly large change to how the scores are processed, so let me know if you see any new problems. Frietjes (talk) 17:04, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Module:Location map/data/Southeast Asia misaligned coordinates

Hello, I recently created Template:Largest cities in Southeast Asia location map but discovered the misalignment of the image file https://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Southeast_Asia_location_map.svg, which is used in Module:Location map/data/Southeast Asia. As seen in the Template:Largest cities in Southeast Asia location map, several cities such as Zamboanga City in the Philippines and George Town in Malaysia lie on the sea despite having correct coordinates. If you have time, can you please fix this misalignment? Thank you. —Sanglahi86 (talk) 10:47, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Sanglahi86, I made some adjustments and put some tests in Module talk:Location map/data/Southeast Asia. is that better? Frietjes (talk) 12:29, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

@Frietjes: Yes, the coordinates of the cities in the map are much more accurate now. Thank you very much for the fix. —Sanglahi86 (talk) 14:34, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Pakistan Super League

Hi! Need some help on the PSL related templates. See Template:Pakistan Super League results summary, and its sub (Template:2016 Pakistan Super League Group stage ... Template:2019 Pakistan Super League Group stage). For example, see below:

• Note: The total points at the end of each group match are listed.
• Note: Click on the points (group matches) or W/L (playoffs) to see the match summary.

Here, it is written Q1/E, Q2, F under Playoffs column. Can you please correct this mistake in all of the related to correct form "E1/Q, E2, F"? It stands for "Eliminator 1 / Qualifier, Eliminator 2, Final". I can't say about other cricket leagues, the similar template has been used in 2018 Indian Premier League#League progression and related. Thanks! M. Billoo 19:41, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

M.Billoo2000, just to make sure I made the requested change: is this the change you wanted me to make? Frietjes (talk) 12:54, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Yes! Thanks for your help. The table is now set. M. Billoo 13:27, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi again! Hope you will be fine. Need some help on implementing Template:Cr-PSL/home, just like Template:Cr-IPL/home. See, {{Cr-IPL|kolk-h}} works, but {{Cr-PSL|lhr-h}} doesn't work (remove the nowiki tags). There's a message on my talk page, and I couldn't edit the template. Thanks! M. Billoo 19:29, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

M.Billoo2000, probably fixed. Frietjes (talk) 19:44, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Can you please update the template like shown below:

Template:Cr-PSL/home Template:Cr-PSL

Template:Cr-PSL Template:Cr-PSL/home

If team color is on left, the home symbol is on right to the name, and vice versa. This is the thing which is not in Cr-IPL. Also, do you think that the code in this template can be simplified or not? Thanks for your kind help! M. Billoo 20:01, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

M.Billoo2000, I made some changes. the entire thing could be simplified even more with some string processing to split off the -h and -r from the team name, but that would require some more changes to avoid multiple calls to module:string. one idea would be to have a data subtemplate which has the linked name, short name, and flag. the outer template could call the data subtemplate to get the necessary data, which would probably make updating the template easier when there is a new team to add. but, I don't really have time to do that at the moment. Frietjes (talk) 21:49, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi again. Thanks for always helping! Need some help again, the Template:Cr-PSL has been nominated TfD per MOS:FLAGS, Please help fixing the template, so that only Template:Cr-PSL/Flags can be deleted, and rest of the template part stays. Thanks again! M. Billoo 12:26, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Template:civil conflict sidebar

I need help with Template:civil conflict sidebar. I posted the issue on Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical)#Issues with infobox and sidebar with no resolution of issue. The issue is the template is missing a white border along the right side of the box along the blue-ish portion. Here's an example:

Not sure where else to go. Mitchumch (talk) 03:10, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) It would be better to continue the same thread at VPT. The sidebar looks fine to me. What web browser and version are you using? If you try a different web browser, does it look different? What happens if you log out and try it? If that troubleshooting process does not narrow down the problem, we need a screen shot. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:41, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Jonesey95 I thought you had moved on. I normally use Mozilla Firefox Quantum v. 65.0.1 (32-bit). I tried viewing the template using Google Chrome v. 72.0.3626.109 (Official Build) (64-bit) and Internet Explorer v. 11.0.9600.19266. The template looks fine with Chrome and Explorer. Never thought about checking other browsers. As far as logging out within Mozilla, I've done that multiple times. Nothing changes. Mitchumch (talk) 09:23, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Mitchumch, I ran the W3C validator on this page. The line

<th scope="col" class="navbox-title" colspan="2" style="background-color: #CEE0F2">

causes a "Table column 2 established by element th has no cells beginning in it.", which may explain the issue. ∰Bellezzasolo✡ Discuss 10:56, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Bellezzasolo I appreciate your discovery. I'm afraid I don't know enough about templates to fix the issue. Is this an issue that can be fixed? Mitchumch (talk) 11:14, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the problem is that this sidebar template uses {{Navbox}} instead of {{Sidebar}} as its base. Navbox expects two columns. I tried just changing it to use Sidebar, but it doesn't work. I'll play around with it in the sandbox. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:49, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Jonesey95, I'm fixing it right now. it was a copy of {{campaignbox}}, which I already fixed, so I just need to push the change to this one. Frietjes (talk) 13:50, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Very good, thanks. Sorry for stepping on your sandbox changes. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:53, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

@Mitchumch, Jonesey95, and Bellezzasolo: should be better now. we had the same problem in {{campaignbox}}, which was fixed with a similar hack. basically, module:navbox never anticipated being used with titles with linked text that is longer than the actual title, so you need a hack to wrap the link text to make it work. if the navbox were a pure table, it would just stretch to fit, but it's a table embedded in a div, so the table stretches, but the div does not stretch. you could probably make the div act like a table element (e.g., display:table-cell), but wrapping the text inside is the other viable option and makes the side box align better with neighbouring infoboxes. Frietjes (talk) 14:07, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Frietjes, the white boarder now appears in my Mozilla browser. I think your solution may cause two problems.

The first issue is with this edit by Graham87 timestamped 22:39, 9 February 2019. The user inserted the code you removed into all the CRM templates with the following edit summary: "fix title for screen readers ... could be a JAWS issue, but that's one of the most popular screen readers, so ... meh".

The second issue is the text looks too compact. What can I do to widen the box? The previous width was fine.

Thank you again for your help. Mitchumch (talk) 15:16, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Mitchumch, the <br /> was added to force the line to wrap, which is no longer a problem now that the links are allowed to wrap. I will increase the default width in a moment. Frietjes (talk) 15:19, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

The presentation of the text is compacted in Mozilla. However, in Explorer and Chrome the presentation of the text is back to where it was before all this began. Is there any way this can be fixed? Mitchumch (talk) 00:41, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

no reliable way to fix it if the base is a Module:navbox. I changed it to Module:Sidebar, which requires minor tweaks to get the border spacing and padding correct :( but, since it doesn't mix divs and tables, it will stretch to fit text. Frietjes (talk) 14:56, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

scratch that, it looks like using 'display:table' works to make the outer div wrap to the table. so, back to the first version. Frietjes (talk) 15:04, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

It looks like you fixed it. Everything looks good in all three browsers. Thank you. Mitchumch (talk) 18:00, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Combined squad table/navbox

Hello, there's been a recent discussion regarding a squad template which can output similar to {{Football squad player}} for a table and similar {{Football squad}} for a navbox. This would make updating squads much easier by not having to make sure two locations stay in sync, i.e. TSG 1899 Hoffenheim#Current squad with Template:TSG 1899 Hoffenheim squad. A current template exists for this, {{Fs2}}, however there are quite a few issues with the formatting. I've had a rough draft of an improved template in my sandbox for a while (here, here, here), with an example template here and output here.

I was hoping for some insight regarding some issues. One is that {{Fs2}} and my sandbox template require |format={{{format|navbox}}} to be repeated on every line. Another issue is that the player template cannot be followed by a newline, the closing and opening brackets have to adjacent (for example Template:Colo-Colo squad). Is there are way for both of these to no longer be necessary? Also, currently with {{Football squad player}} the column split has to be set, is it possible for a template to "automatically" find where to split the columns in the middle?

Maybe this would be better suited as a module? Then there might not be a need for so many supporting templates. There was also talk of merging {{Football squad player}} with {{Football squad player2}}, maybe one module could combine all these functions? Thanks, S.A. Julio (talk) 18:53, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

S.A. Julio, as far as I can tell, you have two viable options. first is a complete rewrite with a single module approach, like what we do for module:sports table

{{#invoke:football squad
|mode=navbox <!-- or table -->
|nat1=GER |pos1=GK|name1=]|other1=]
...
}}

the second is to keep the fs player templates, but have a wrapper around the templates reformat the presentation as needed, like what we do with Template:CFB schedule

{{#invoke:football squad
|mode=navbox <!-- or table -->
|squad=
{{Fs player|no= 1|nat=GER |pos=GK|name=]|other=]}}
}}

the first approach is fairly straightforward to program. with the second approach, you use string processing inside the module, which works as long as you have control over the input, and the input isn't too long to string process. we get around this problem with Template:CFB schedule by splitting input into separate entries. In both cases, we can automatically insert the column split (e.g. what we do for template:sports rivalry series table). Frietjes (talk) 19:07, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Strange working in eg Banaue Rice Terraces

Some infoboxes I see, I like but I don't know how it works. Beneath the map are there three (or more) lines, preceded by radio button. Where does it come from? It's not inside {{infobox ...}}. Come from wikidata? – Talk about confusing (talk) 13:56, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Talk about confusing the maps are set by |map=Luzon#Philippines which is passed through {{Infobox protected area}} to {{location map}}. in this case, the coordinates come from |coordinates=, but in other cases they come from wikidata. Frietjes (talk) 13:59, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

@Frietjes: I still don't understand. If you look at Astramyevo there's almost nothing there, and not much in its wikidata either. I suppose it's coming through {{coord}} or maybe from coords in wikidata. I wonder how it is done, how to be in charge. – Talk about confusing (talk) 14:29, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Talk about confusing for Astramyevo the maps are set by {{Infobox Russian rural locality}} which automatically selects the map based on the value of |federal_subject= with the pin position set either by the |coordinates= or a value fetched from wikidata. every infobox is slightly different. Frietjes (talk) 14:37, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Sydney Light Rail stations navbox

Template:Sydney Light Rail stations navbox has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Zackmann (/_{What I been doing}) 17:38, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Philippine film festivals

Template:Philippine film festivals has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Zackmann (/_{What I been doing}) 20:42, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Module:WLink

Module:WLink has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the module's entry on the Templates for discussion page. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 16:03, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Welsh Alliance League

Thanks on merging the league tables and creating season pages. :-) Onshore (talk) 22:24, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Article review: Sabana Grande (Caracas)

Hey. The Misplaced Pages article https://en.wikipedia.org/Sabana_Grande,_Caracas has been vandalised by Jamez42. 100,000 characters have been deleted and several quotes/sources from relevant authors and academicians.

Please, I kindly ask you to review the article.

--QuinteroP (talk) 09:38, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

@QuinteroP: Why did you write to 14 editors and didn't ping me? The edit was not vandalism, and you have already opened a peer review of the article. --Jamez42 (talk) 16:19, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

TFDs

Question, would it be possible for you to TFD sports templates that you merge per that thread? For example Template:2015–16 North-East V AFG table. If it makes a bunch of extra work or messes with your workflow, no worries, but if you don't mind, that would be helpful. --Zackmann (/_{What I been doing}) 22:06, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

findargdumps error

Hi Frietjes! I partially reverted this edit of yours, because it replaced {{'}} templates with argument boundaries for a new {{hlist}} template. {{'}} is used to escape apsotrophes directly following Wiki markup (e.g. italics or boldface). Please check whether this is an error in the script. Regards. Lordtobi (✉) 16:05, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Lordtobi, thank you for fixing it! I had temporarily turned on another autoreplace script for another task and forgot to turn it off. the script warned me that there was a problem, but I didn't see the warning for some strange reason. Frietjes (talk) 16:09, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

2019-20 EFL League Two

Thanks for the edit, i am very new to creating articles so thanks for supporting me

here comes dat boi (talk) 16:10, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Southern Combination League

Hi, can you explain what you've done there with the league tables? I'm the editor who updates them and I don't understand what you've done. Thanks, Bretonbanquet (talk) 13:31, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Bretonbanquet, per the links that I provided in my edit summary, the {{fb cl2 team}} and {{fb r}} series of templates are being deleted after they are replaced with Module:Sports table and Module:Sports results. I have a script that semi-automatically converts the old templates to the new modules. if you need help with the new modules, you can feel free to ask me or post a note at WT:FOOTY. Frietjes (talk) 13:34, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

I can see roughly what you have to do to update a league table but it's so un-user-friendly that I would never bother again. It used to be easy. Can it not wait till the end of the season? Bretonbanquet (talk) 13:38, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Bretonbanquet, it was April 2018 when the decision was made to retire the old templates, and once all the articles are converted, the templates will be deleted. once that happens, the any articles still containing the old templates will be completely broken. if you have a complaint about the new format, you should raise the objection at WT:FOOTY. I'm not the one who made the decision. I am just the one who is making sure that everything is converted properly. Frietjes (talk) 13:42, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

There's patently no point in raising an objection. It's "progress" and I'm just the guy who does the week-to-week work, in fact the only guy for the last few years who has done it for this league and a number of others. Editing is supposed to be fun. Bit by bit, people make sure it's not fun. I know it wasn't your decision to change the templates, but the new format is clunky, counter-intuitive and unpleasant to work on because you can't see the table while you're editing. No benefit whatsoever for the reader. There's absolutely no reason this couldn't have waited till the end of the season. I hope someone else updates the tables in the future; otherwise they'll be permanently out of date, like practically all the other ones I don't do. Bretonbanquet (talk) 13:56, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Bretonbanquet, revert my changes if you feel so strongly about it, and I will reconvert it later. but, I don't know what you are going to do next season. Frietjes (talk) 13:58, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

It seems churlish to revert you because you were only following the directive. I shan't bother next season so it hardly matters. All the best, Bretonbanquet (talk) 14:01, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

thumb-fixer script

Hi,

Many articles are added to Category:Pages using infoboxes with thumbnail images every day. I was wondering if you could write a script to speed up fixing these. If it could strip out the "

User:MB, okay, I started something here. since it is so new, and the way it operates, you really need to inspect the diffs and use "show preview" before saving the result. I will make it automatically show you the diff when it changes something, but you will still need to press "show preview" to check for duplicate arg errors or other issues. the script tries to never erase anything questionable, so it will "join duplicate captions" when it thinks it can do so. but, as there are so many permutations of names for the image and caption field, it's not always going to pick the correct parameter name, etc. Frietjes (talk) 14:55, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Seems to work fine. Thank you. I've used it a dozen times so far. Found one so far it didn't handle (Infobox journal with |cover=). That is a oddball case that I fixed manually, but if you want to try to cover everything let me know and I will tell you if I find others like that. MB 18:00, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

User:MB, okay, I added cover. I can certainly add more patterns, but some may no be worth it if they aren't that common, or if they are too complicated to implement. I will leave it up to you to decide if more are useful. just provide me with a link to an example article so I can test any changes. Frietjes (talk) 18:25, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Here is one I see somewhat frequently, Urocampus nanus uses |image= but ThumbFix doesn't work, probably because the template is called Speciesbox instead of Infobox something. (I noticed that Indent does work on it) MB 22:42, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

User:MB, should work now. the "unroll" feature of indent is only applied to infoboxes, but the other parts of indent are supposed to be applied to all templates. Frietjes (talk) 22:47, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

This had an |alt= which kept ThumbFix from working. Just letting you know, but this is very uncommon so probably not worth fixing, especially if it wouldn't be trivial. Maybe if it is easy, detect alt= and just move that to a separate field but leave it to the user to do further renaming to image_alt or logo_alt or whatever. MB 03:02, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

User:MB, okay, alt directly after the image name probably works now. if you see any with alt after the caption, thumb, center, ... I can probably fix those as well. Frietjes (talk) 14:14, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Found one case of "centre" instead of "center" which kept it from working. MB 18:46, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Also Taxobox. MB 13:56, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

User:MB, okay Frietjes (talk) 16:15, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Another oddball one is Template:Infobox artist discography that uses |Image= and |Caption=. Not necessarily worth fixing. But I think the script should NOT preserve an existing caption when a new caption has been provided with the "thumbed" image - the old caption is almost always wrong and belongs to a previously deleted image. Can you just delete it. Also, I think you can turn off the "auto-Show changes" now. MB 23:47, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

User:MB, I will see if anything can be done for Template:Infobox artist discography, cases like this one are why the current caption is preserved for the user to decide the best option. Frietjes (talk) 13:25, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

User:MB, I changed the default to preview, but you can change it back to diff by doing this or turn off both diff and preview by setting that variable to 'none'. Frietjes (talk) 13:37, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Here is another that didn't work: MB 14:37, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

This is one where it didn't find existing caption =: . MB 04:54, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Didn't work due to alt=: . MB 03:34, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Force output abbreviated month name for Template:Date?

Hello, can you please help on how to force the date output have an abbreviated month (given any valid date input). Thank you. Related post is at:Template_talk:Date#Abbreviated_month_name_format? –Sanglahi86 (talk) 16:46, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Nomination for merging of Template:One Nation/meta/color

Template:One Nation/meta/color has been nominated for merging with Template:Pauline Hanson's One Nation/meta/color. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Heyitsstevo (talk) 06:09, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Help on fixing {{Cabinet table minister}} issues

Hello. Can you please help in fixing the template Cabinet table minister? In particular, the minister1_party parameter causes several errors:

• The 2nd row in the table below has a blank value, and this causes the column to shift one cell to the left.
• The 3rd row has a value, but the political party (PDP-Laban) is not recognized
• The 4th row tries to use a wikilink, but is still unrecognized/parsed correctly

Thank you. –Sanglahi86 (talk) 07:18, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Sanglahi86, okay after some tracking to find pages using empty or omitted party parameters, I improved the template logic to treat those cases separately. so, now if want to omit the party column, you omit the party parameter from the {{cabinet table minister}} templates and add |hidepartycol=y to the start template. if you want to omit the party from a particular row, you can use |minister1_party= or |minister1_party=-. in all cases, it will check to make sure the meta templates exist before trying to use them. Frietjes (talk) 12:42, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the fix and info. –Sanglahi86 (talk) 06:15, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Infobox settlement

Hi, I am still useless when it comes to templates; how can we change Infobox settlement so that we can have Infobox settlement same colour as Template:Palestinian Arab villages depopulated during the 1948 Palestinian exodus? Huldra (talk) 22:42, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Huldra, you have to propose this at Template talk:Infobox settlement and wait/hope for consensus to add this as a feature. making the template do this is trivial, but getting other editors to agree to the change will not be as easy, although it may still be possible. Frietjes (talk) 12:51, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, Frietjes, will do, Huldra (talk) 20:25, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Transclusion

Hi, can you add the code below to the module "Sports results", just like the module "Sports table"? Or is there a specific reason for not doing so?

if( Pargs and Args ) then
	if( Pargs ~= Args ) then
		return ''
	end
end

TIA, --Sb008 (talk) 17:14, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Sb008, seems fine, so now added. note that I also imported the blank parameter stripping feature, so hopefully there aren't any unintended consequences. Frietjes (talk) 18:10, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Thx, didn't encounter any side effects so far. --Sb008 (talk) 23:16, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Module:Location map/data/Greece Peloponnese/doc

Hello Frietjes,

I have seen that you created this splendid module with the map of the Peloponnese, Greece. I have tried to find out how to create a similar module for the region of Epirus, northwestern Greece, but I have failed !!!! Is it an easy project? Do you have some first clues? Or should I ask you to create one for Epirus region, northwestern Greece. Actually I am interested in creating a module for a smaller part of Epirus. Preveza region. But Epirus would do fine for a start.

Many thanks in advance. Actia Nicopolis (talk) 15:49, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Actia Nicopolis, first we need a map image. it looks like File:Greece (ancient) Epirus (cropped).svg could work, but I don't know if that has the correct boundaries. another option would be to use a dynamic map frame, which allows you to show a map of any region with zero additional programming. some infoboxes already implicitly support this feature, for others you can usually pass it through any of the image parameters like I did here. Frietjes (talk) 14:29, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Frietjes, thank you very much for the suggestions. I used the dynamic map and the results here.

Your help is much appreciated! Actia Nicopolis (talk) 19:39, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Template:Infobox civil conflict arrests parameter not displaying?

Hello. Can you please advise on why {{Infobox civil conflict}} parameter arrests is not showing up in Philippine Drug War infobox? I suspect the cause might be both casualties1 and casualties2 parameters are used in the infobox, with casualties2 overriding arrests, but that is just my guess. Thank you. –Sanglahi86 (talk) 04:50, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Sanglahi86, you were correct that if you use |casualties1= or |casualties2= then |arrests= is suppressed, so this shows both. I believe the idea was that a section should have a consistent format, either (a) heading with two/three columns or (b) multiple label/data lines. so, we could add |arrests1= and |arrests2= and have a separate "arrests" heading, but that would require some programming. Frietjes (talk) 14:21, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the information and fix on the infobox. –Sanglahi86 (talk) 15:56, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Six years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:58, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

infobox university

Here is another minor glitch. This template seems to accept |image_name= in addition to |image=, but |caption= is only displayed with |image=. Not sure if image_name should be fully supported or deprecated. Example. MB 23:17, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

User:MB, try asking Pkbwcgs who added this feature with this edit. I would think the two parameters would be functionally equivalent. Frietjes (talk) 12:43, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

@MB: There is already a tracking category for pages using both |image= and |image_name= at Category:Instances of Infobox university using both image and image_name. I think that should be cleared out and replaced with |caption= like you have said. I think that |image_name= should be deprecated as it is the same as |caption=. There aren't many uses for |image_name= either. However, I don't know how to go ahead with deprecating a parameter. Pkbwcgs (talk) 07:45, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

I have updated all articles in that category. Since you agree it should be deprecated but don't know how, maybe Frietjes will do it. MB 17:40, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

User:MB the image_name parameter is used frequently (Category:Pages using infobox university with the image name parameter) so we can't remove it completely, but you could remove it from the documentation page. Frietjes (talk) 21:21, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Force add the citation on the unit to be converted in {{convert}} when using disp=table on a wikitable?

Hello. In {{convert}}, when using the parameter disp=table on a wikitable, is there a way to force the reference citation to be added on the first column (the original unit to be converted) instead of the second column (converted unit):

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! scope="col" | City
! scope="col" | Population (2015)
! scope="col" | Area (sq. km.)
! scope="col" | Area (sq. mi.)
! scope="col" | Density (sq. km.)
! scope="col" | Density (sq. mi.)
|-
! scope="row" | ]
| {{nts|319,104}}
| {{convert|10.89|km2|mi2|disp=table}}<ref name="PSA-NSCB-ListofCities" />
| {{convert|{{#expr:319104/10.89 round 0}}|/km2|disp=table}}
|}

As can be seen from above, the template adds the citation (<ref name="PSA-NSCB-ListofCities" />) on the square mile column instead of the square kilometer. Can we force the citation to be added on the unit to be converted (square kilometer) column? Thank you. —Sanglahi86 (talk) 15:17, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Sanglahi86, as at Template talk:convert. although an even better option would be to extend template:pop density to show all five columns. Frietjes (talk) 16:37, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the info. template:pop density is great, but it adds the reference citation to only the rightmost column, and like {{convert}}, we cannot control what particular column(s) the citation should be placed. I will also try reposting this in Template talk:convert. Thanks again. –Sanglahi86 (talk) 02:06, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

References

1. Cite error: The named reference PSA-NSCB-ListofCities was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

NYL/Y-League tables

So my watchlist overflooded with you doing stuff on the NYL/Y-League pages, which I don't understand. Here it also seems you want to delete the ladder templates and I can't understand why (they are used also on the season page and also in page about soccer in Australia for relevant season). Can you please explain what's going on? --SuperJew (talk) 20:39, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

SuperJew, yes, it was decided in this thread that we should keep the tables in the articles rather than placing them in individual templates. for tables used on more than one page, they should be included on the main season page, and transcluded in the related pages. so for example, if you check 2008–09 A-League National Youth League, you will see that the table is enclosed in <onlyinclude>...</onlyinclude> tags and in this section that article transcludes the content by calling the season article as if it were a template. the v-t-e links automatically point back to the main season article when the table is transcluded. Frietjes (talk) 13:16, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Oh yes, I see now... I objected there too as I it'll make following harder. As it is a lot too much can happen on the season page, that having the ladder separate was a good thing IMO. And until there's an option to watch only sections of a page, it just makes it harder putting them together. --SuperJew (talk) 20:58, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation anyway. Maybe you should link that discussion on the template deletion suggestion pages. --SuperJew (talk) 20:59, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

{{Transclude files as random slideshow}}

Hi! Could you look at why {{Transclude files as random slideshow}} implementation on Portal:Webcomics isn't working? The syntax seems fine to me according to the doc. You migrated this template by Evad37 into a module a few months ago. Me and Maplestrip would really appreciate the Portal working as intended, at least, since an MfD discussion has sprung up. Thanks! Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 21:07, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

I suspect the {{Selected image}} template is somehow the cause. For now I changed the subpages to just directly embed the images, which fixed the slideshow on the portal page. (Side note: The template was always a module, Frietjes just moved the stylesheet) -- ferret (talk) 23:28, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

This update might be why Portal:Webcomics stopped displaying. The image subpages for Portal:Webcomics were using {{Selected image}} without a caption. I reverted my edit and added captions, seems to have worked. -- ferret (talk) 00:03, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes, the module will now only use images which have captions, per Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Portals/Design#Transclude files as random slideshow - Evad37  10:02, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

2009 ACL

Why did you substitute the template on 2009 AFC Champions League group stage? Albertus Aditya (talk) 16:50, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Albertus Aditya, see here and this thread. Frietjes (talk) 16:56, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

I got the main point, but still wondering about {{2018–19 Eastern Counties Football League Premier Division table}} whether it could be transcluded too. Thanks. Albertus Aditya (talk) 17:17, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Albertus Aditya, yes, you just need to use |section=Premier Division in the main article, and |transcludesection=Premier Division in any transclusions. Frietjes (talk) 19:34, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Infobox width problem

In Circle K, there is a collapsible list where "show" conflicts with the list title. I could try to shorten the title or increase the logo size to widen the infobox. Just wondering if there is a more generic solution (should the title wrap to allow room for "show"?) MB 13:49, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

User:MB, I would suggest adding a note to this thread and pinging TheDJ who could probably understands the problem better. Frietjes (talk) 14:19, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Removing templates

Why are you removing templates and replacing with the includes? Coderzombie (talk) 15:23, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Coderzombie, it was decided in this thread that we should keep the tables in the articles rather than placing them in individual templates. for tables used on more than one page, they should be included on the main season page, and transcluded in the related pages. the table in the main article is enclosed in <onlyinclude>...</onlyinclude> tags and other articles can transclude the content by calling the season article as if it were a template. the v-t-e links automatically point back to the main season article when the table is transcluded. Frietjes (talk) 15:26, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

I read the thread but that hardly seems like a consensus for the large scale changes you have done, it's a mere discussion. Coderzombie (talk) 15:29, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Coderzombie, that was followed by this discussion, this discussion, this discussion, this discussion, .... Frietjes (talk) 15:32, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

2018 OCL

Can you help me fix error? I cannot find error while merging Hhkohh (talk) 17:08, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

There is also this pretty huge amount of spacing between each paragraph in the Group stage section. Chanheigeorge (talk) 17:55, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Chanheigeorge, I don't see any spacing. Frietjes (talk) 17:57, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

It's been fixed. Chanheigeorge (talk) 17:57, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Chanheigeorge, this edit may be helped you. So you had better not leave a blank line Hhkohh (talk) 18:02, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Hhkohh Let me re-test it. Chanheigeorge (talk) 18:03, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Hhkohh Frietjes Okay it is what causes the huge blank lines, but still it is kind of weird that one small edit causes the whole section, even earlier paragraphs not involving the tables, to produce huge blank lines. Chanheigeorge (talk) 18:07, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Chanheigeorge, that's because when you transclude the article, _everything_ inside the <onlyinclude>...</onlyinclude> tags is transcluded. that includes any blank lines. in this particular case, you have many <onlyinclude>...</onlyinclude> sections, so even if the actual tables are suppressed, the blank lines before or after the tables are not suppressed. Frietjes (talk) 18:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Frietjes, Now maybe I am asking for too much, but it would be really really really great if I can click on the "E" button at the top of the table, and instead of editing the whole article 2018 OFC Champions League group stage, I am just editing the section.... agree, Hhkohh :-)? Chanheigeorge (talk) 18:18, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Chanheigeorge, the problem is that the section edit links are by number (look at the URL when you are editing a section). unfortunately, modules are not aware of the sections they are in, so we cannot automatically determine the section number. we could pass the section number through the module, but if a new section is added, or a section is removed, the numbers would need to be updated manually, and it would likely go unchanged. Frietjes (talk) 18:22, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Frietjes Thanks. I kind of know that it can't be done otherwise it probably would have been done. But maybe it is something for the future if the Misplaced Pages codes allow it. Chanheigeorge (talk) 18:27, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Infobox university II

I found this article that used both |state= and |province= (with the province being used for a US county) and the result was incorrectly formatted. I fixed it. Suggest tracking these in Category:Pages using infobox university with state and province or maybe Category:Pages using infobox university with syntax errors. MB 14:46, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

User:MB, there are many state-level parameters and other potential redundant or colliding parameters, see the new list of tracking categories, which may take some time to fill up. Frietjes (talk) 15:44, 14 April 2019 (UTC)