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The Q3 is will not be built on the MLP platform. It will be built on the same platform as the Volkswagen Tiguan which is based on the Volkswagen Golf.
Q3 name change
Here in Sweden, the Q3 is currently marketed and sold as the Q3, despite this article's reference to a supposed name change. Asked for citation. --oKtosiTe 17:55, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
Infobox image 2nd generation
I'd prefer the image of the grey Q3. It has a nicer background and the angle is better, since the distance between camera and vehicle is higher. The argument with the colour isn't relevant in my opinion and if it is, I do not understand his revert here. Also I disagree with Vauxford's behaviour. If I see it right, he was criticized for edit waring and putting the images of him all the time. And again he behaves in that kind of way. Cheers--Alexander-93 (talk) 18:08, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
- Alexander-93 Don't use the article talk page to air your frustration about another user or include past incidents unrelated to the talk page discussion. I already stated my reason, the colour is quite dullish and the angle you photographed make it seem that you took it somewhere elevated rather on the ground. Overall the image that I replaced it makes it a nicer choice. Despite less pixels, the blue one is alot more sharper and shows more details. --Vauxford (talk) 18:59, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
- Vauxford Sorry for that, but so there is still 1 against 1. That doesn't mean, that your image will stay. I will ask in the WikiProject for a third opionion.--Alexander-93 (talk) 20:46, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
- They're both less than stellar, unfortunately. The image of the gray one is taken from too high of a perspective - it appears as if the photographer was standing on something when taking it. Otherwise, the angle is good, and it has a better background, so I'd stick with that one. There's doesn't appear to be anything better on Commons at this time. --Sable232 (talk) 16:26, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- Sable232 The white reflection effect on the windshield and bonnet isn't a good factor as well, while the blue one has less then that and the headlights aren't fogged up due to where it was taken and are clear and sharp. These photos were both taken in dealerships so it almost possible to not have this sorta background, I'm not referencing the CARPIX guideline but IMO a car picture should be taken at a standing, level position, taking it from some elevated place just looks weird. There also red splodge sources around the grille and bumper which the blue car also doesn't has and the car itself doesn't look tilted, I think Alexander-93 has to make it like that just so it can be promoted to QI, one of the guidelines for promoting a image to QI is the tilt/perspective should be corrected, even if it means the car isn't at a angle you want it to be. (Happens to me before). --Vauxford (talk) 16:30, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- The picture of the blue car has already been added to wikipedia entries in fifteen different languages (with apologies if I counted wrong) so I'm not sure picture quality is the only issue here! Nevertheless, if we were to judge in terms of picture quality, the blue car is a more interesting colour but it is let down by excessive distracting reflections on the paint work. And of course the background is indeed messy. A grey car on a grey background is not necessarily a winning combination, but it is a combination that Vauxford would no doubt defend to the death where such a picture had been produced by him. Neither of the angles is perfect. As one of you pointed out, it's hard (though not necessarily impossible) to get it quite right when looking down on a car, as with the grey car, while - at least to my taste - the photographer stood a bit too close with a blue car. I guess opinions can reasonably differ on that. But yes, the picture of the grey car is the tidier composition if we are invited to vote on the matter. Then again, where a picture taken and uploaded and linked by the one and only Vauxford is involved, I'm not sure how far voting really comes into it. Happy days! Charles01 (talk) 19:03, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- Charles01 For starters I would never photograph above a height like that. But the sharper picture, nicer colour and doesn't have weird red splodges around the car is the reason why I'm defending the blue car, yes it was taken by me but I feel it justified enough to replace a image like the one Alexander-93 has put in the article. --Vauxford (talk) 20:21, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
I'm not sure you are allow to do this during a discussion so forgive me if I shouldn't of, but I added another photo which is at a different angle, same colour but slightly reduced messy background and I haven't photographed so up close like the previous one. --Vauxford (talk) 20:27, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- Besides the point, but am I the only one who hates it when the rear view mirrors move out of the way automatically, messing up my photos? Mr.choppers | ✎ 02:51, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
Where we're at
I thought it might be useful to summarize where we have got to with this.
- A contributor invited people to choose between two pictures of a second generation Q3
- We seem to be agreed that both images are pretty indifferent
- But three of the four of us think the picture of the grey car is less indifferent aka better. (And Mr.choppers abstains!)
- The only "vote" for the blue car comes from a man with a unique approach, who links his own pictures to wiki-entries on an industrial scale without regard to whether they are good, indifferent, or bad. He then routinely launches damaging edit wars in defence of the mediocre and bad ones if anyone dares to replace them. (Presumably no one would feel the need to replace such good pictures as he might link. Though I still think linking one's own pictures to wiki-entries is not something that is normally justified. Till Vauxford came along it is not something that people usually did.)
- The blue car vote came from the man who linked it in the first place. You can make the case that his vote is of lesser weight because he is "marking his own homework"
- Despite the involvement of Vauxford, I thought that it would probably be "safe" to replace the picture that got one vote with the picture that got three votes.
- So I did.
- Less than ten minutes later I noticed that my consensus based correction had been reversed by Vauxford.
- Unfortunately I am clearly too dim to understand the loopy logic of the Vauxford vanity project to which wikipedia had been subjected with increasing determination over the past couple of years. The behaviour seems to me to have become strikingly worse since Vauxford turned savagely against his former partner in crime, EurovisionNim a year or so ago and then triggered a (successful) action to have EurovisionNim removed from the scene.
- As far as the Vauxford vanity project is concerned, am I the only one who finds the Vauxford's narcissistic and arrogant actions unacceptable?
- As far as the picture of the second generation Q3 is concerned, I propose to reverse the Vauxford reversal. Oh dear!
- But please feel free if you think I got it wrong, to tell me how.
- (Unless you've Vauxford, in which case I think your actions probably tell their own tale far more eloquently than the endless rather odd verbals about yourself which you love to scatter round the place!)
Regards Charles01 (talk) 16:30, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
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