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Dates need to be more clearly noted in each paragraph throughout this article.

I am asking for more clarity within the article on dates, and all other major events. Under sub-heading : Responsibility, topic, Cybersecurity analysis, this paragraph:

The FBI requested (on what date did they ask for this?), but did not receive, physical access to the DNC servers. The FBI did obtain copies of the servers and all the information on them (on what date did they obtain this?), as well as access to forensics, from CrowdStrike, a third-party cybersecurity company that reviewed the DNC servers.

"Contents" is too general of a heading = Publicly released private information

"Contents" is too general of a heading to describe the information acquired by third parties and its importance, so a more descriptive heading, "Publicly released private information", was chosen to improve the article. Should the Wiki Contents box's first entry be Contents?69.181.23.220 (talk) 01:40, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Headings should be kept simple, the section discusses just that, the contents of the leak, a synonym might be fine, also the Podesta emails article has a similar heading. Seeing as there was no consensus for this edit it should be kept as it was.--Loganmac (talk) 12:19, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Some emails were altered before they were leaked

AP reports: "But there were signs of dishonesty from the start. The first document Guccifer 2.0 published on June 15 came not from the DNC as advertised but from Podesta’s inbox , according to a former DNC official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the press. The official said the word “CONFIDENTIAL” was not in the original document . Guccifer 2.0 had airbrushed it to catch reporters’ attention." (source: Raphael Satter for AP News – Inside story: How Russians hacked the Democrats’ emails. Nov. 04, 2017) Is it possible to inlcude this information into the article? --Einar Moses Wohltun (talk) 08:02, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Messages vs Messengers

Although the title of this article reasonably accommodates both message (content of emails) and messenger (allegations of source), the preponderance of text about the latter gives WP:Undue Weight. Particularly egregious is the section "Media coverage and public perception" which does not cite any public perception (e.g., polls).

That section includes an indented quote from Anne Applebaum asserting that the media is somehow wrong for focusing on content, which the "Reactions" section shows was a shocking set of diverse dirty tricks. Instead of using Applebaum's complaint about what the media should have been doing in July 2016, let's show some quotes from actual media commentary about the content as well as some semblance of "public perception" (say, an interview of supposedly random people on the street, if not an actual poll).

There also seems to be WP:POV expressed in using an indented quote from James Risen at the end of "Reactions" (immediately before the "Media coverage and public perception" section) that "chides" the media for covering message instead of messenger.

In fact, there have not been claims that any of the emails were fabricated, so the message should be paramount. If no one wants to excise the Risen quote (which is redundant with the subsequent Applebaum quote), then we should at least quote a media person who feels that content takes precedence over source -- if we feel that Risen's attack is worth including, wouldn't it be fair to include someone's defense as well? Martindo (talk) 11:01, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Hack, not Leak

Mueller report confirms this was a hack originated from the GRU, not a "leak" from an insider. The difference is very important. Article should be renamed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Concernedsangha (talkcontribs) 23:02, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Fringe nonsense

Two editors are restoring content sourced to an absurdly idiotic Nation piece which repeats the ramblings of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, who were literally just aping some Russian disinformation that a pro-Kremlin hacker fed them. William Binney who ran wildest with this on behalf of VIPS, appearing on Fox News to push this nonsense, later rejected that the manipulated documents were valid and concluded that they did not support the inside job theory.

Yet, here we are now in 2019, and editors are still pushing to include this fringe BS into this article. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 01:00, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Snooganssnoogans (talk): You asked me to revert my recent edit to this article. However, I can't. According to the article Talk page, an editor is limited to one revision per 24 hours, and my revision was only a couple hours ago. Sorry. Also - you might want to ease up on characterizing others' edits as nonsense, absurd, idiotic, aping, and bullshit; this is unbecoming. I suggest more civility in your future rants. Cheers. BattleshipGray (talk) 02:37, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
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