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Good grief, couldn't we find a non-grinning mug of the impeached one? (← These are both 2019. →) – Sca (talk) 13:59, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

I would oppose changing any pictures as arbitrary and pointless. The current picture is sufficient. It is his official White House Portrait, and as such, does not need changing out just to fit one particular person's mood. --Jayron32 15:14, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
It does look a little incongruous though — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:43, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
Everything about him is incongruous. Why should the picture displayed on ITN be any different? ~ ONUnicornproblem solving 16:31, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
Grinning is not a crime.Bagumba (talk) 17:01, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
What's that got to do with anything related to this discussion? – Sca (talk) 17:16, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
To pair a grinning mug with a blurb about the top U.S. govt. exec. being charged with "high crimes and misdemeanors" is acutely inept, amateurish editorial practice. Are we trying to be funny? (Or are we just lazy?) Why oppose a change that makes obvious sense – to something far more appropriate for this serious topic? Let's look like we know what we're doing for once – this is going to be up there for a while. – Sca (talk) 17:13, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
Because we don't make arbitrary changes because you as a singular person have feelings about something. Just because you are bothered by something doesn't mean that the rest of Misplaced Pages needs to make changes to deal with your personal discomfort. If you want to make an argument, make one other than "I have a feeling and I will now speak contemptuously and in an incredulous tone about others because of my feelings". --Jayron32 17:31, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
In a way, that's a style of argument fit for the Orange One himself.--WaltCip (talk) 00:37, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

A change from his official photo—one of him grinning—to either a neutral, pensive, or indignant shot would be projecting social norms on his supposed reaction. But he is unpredictable, so that's not worth pursuing. Moreover, a change from his official, grinning pose could be argued to be an editorial statement of guilt of someone who is perpetually self-confident. As we do have an official photo, which he presumably endorsed, it is the best choice given his situtation.—Bagumba (talk) 04:18, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

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