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Reply from Ben

Hi - you left me a note about considering to become a wiki user. Thanks for the thought. I really enjoy editing writing of all kinds. I joined wiki as a registered user a long time ago. I tried to cancel my user account after several years of frustrating experiences with other editors. Edit wars by proprietary editors especially. The nerd who wrote the "florida everglades" article for instance, and the little group of nazis running the "autism spectrum" page, are two examples.

I also find the wiki editor software to be clunky, and have not learned all the little tricks some other editors have. I got threatened with "blocking" for "vandalism" the other day, by someone who just didn't like my edit. I don't know how to defend myself. I also found it difficult to get help from senior editors to protect myself from edit warring. I'm not even sure if this message will get to you and you'll know who it is from. There is no "chat" function.

Without anyone to lean on for learning and protection, I just walked away. I also am in a concussion recovery, so I shouldn't spend much screen time anyways, and I get headaches from trying to do trickier stuff like add citations or pictures. Unless wiki makes it easier to edit, and provides simple mentorship protection to editors, I'll never come back as an editor. I just try and fix obvious mistakes in articles I come across, and if I inadvertently get run over by edit warring goons, I just walk away.

So thanks for the offer. I just keep my head down and use my English skills to help out where I can. peace and love best Ben 184.69.174.194 (talk) 05:13, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

All male Antiques Roadshow

There is a photo for Hilary Kay, but I thought it wasn't really clear enough. What do you think? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:43, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

I agree with your decision to keep looking for a better photo without the clutter of other people. CapnZapp (talk) 15:45, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

P&O Cruises

Hi, re your comments about the previous fleet, I restricted the list to ships actually operated by the company named. For ships operated by by its predecessors, P&O, P&O Orient and Orient lines see the articles on those companies. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 09:12, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you - much clearer now. If you feel confident the list is complete, feel free to remove the expand template. CapnZapp (talk) 10:50, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Cheers, I think I've done it now. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 15:35, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

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Refs for Sunny Lane

Hi CapnZapp. Two years ago you added some references to Sunny Lane. I'm guessing someone removed the tv.com ref as unreliable. TheRichest.com is unreliable as well. I'm unable to find any information about ("Celebs Named: 10,000+ Celebrities' birth name" by Burt Vance, page 122) at all: no books by that author, nor any books with similar names and authors. Any idea what it is supposed to be? --Ronz (talk) 03:24, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

My best suggestion is to google "Sunny Lane Holly Hodges" and see if you still find a credible source. If you don't, well, the information will have to go away. Sorry I can't remember how and where I found the Vance book ref. CapnZapp (talk) 10:20, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Probably not sock puppetry

My guess is that the three 2001 IPs are the result of one person using different computers at one facility (a university?) and in no way an intention to convey that these are different editors. I suggest focusing on the content - at the Talk page - and not worry about the phantom horde that disagrees with you. A knowledgeable third editor is already participating, so please work it out there (without me). David notMD (talk) 17:32, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Sure, User:David notMD. Please note I wasn't primarily concerned with sockpuppetry. That is, of all possible violations that particular one wasn't on my radar (can you even be accused of sockpuppeteering when you only make anonymous edits?) My main concern was how to deal with an IP editor that might or might not be one person and might and might not be a troll without going into an edit war with an unknown entity. Discussing with ever-new IP addresses that might not even be read didn't sound like fun. For example, I considered (and then un-considered) asking for page protection - at the very least this would have forced the IP editor to register an account with which further interaction would then feel much more worthwhile. Hopefully your intervention is enough. CapnZapp (talk) 18:11, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Your thread has been archived

Hi CapnZapp! You created a thread called dealing with a series of IP edits (one user?) at Misplaced Pages:Teahouse, but it has been archived because there was no discussion for a few days. You can still find the archived discussion here. If you have any additional questions that weren't answered then, please create a new thread. Archival by Lowercase sigmabot III, notification delivery by Muninnbot, both automated accounts. You can opt out of future notifications by placing {{bots|deny=Muninnbot}} (ban this bot) or {{nobots}} (ban all bots) on your user talk page. Muninnbot (talk) 19:03, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi, CapnZapp. Since this message is also pertaining to the Teahouse, I thought I'd just add this here. Your newer thread on automatic invites is much more a question on the operations of the Teahouse than a "how-to" question on Misplaced Pages. As such, it should have been on the Teahouse talk page (WT:TEA) than in the forum itself. Just an FYI for future reference. John from Idegon (talk) 20:37, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

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Bendor Grosvenor genealogical sources

You reverted my edit and referred me to the talk page where you wrote something,but have yet to respond to my reply on the talk page?--12.144.5.2 (talk) 18:26, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

I am sorry if I kept you waiting User:12.144.5.2 - I really have nothing to say that I believe you will consider constructive. I can only suggest you try accepting Misplaced Pages for what it is rather than getting frustrated by policies that very likely will not change. Feel free to ask the Help desk or at the Teahouse if you have questions regarding policy. Best regards CapnZapp (talk) 19:42, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

I consider passive acceptance of policies that I regard as directly harmful to be complicity in that harm.In doing research one does exactly the opposite of what you are recommending...the sources that are not inclined to be precise are the ones to be disregarded in a verification process.12.144.5.2 (talk) 17:27, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Zing!

For the record, I'm the closest thing to objectivity this place has. - SummerPhD 03:25, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Referencing

Good changes in Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011, but please complete your references. Examples are in other references. Cheers. Errantius (talk) 04:05, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Errantius! I belong to the wikipedia school of thought that says "better bare references than no references". In other words, I'm one of the many editors who might not contribute at all if bare urls were rejected. Hope you respect my position. Cheers and best wishes, CapnZapp (talk) 23:11, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

LINDA FIORENTINO

I have been trying to have the section about Anthony Pellicano corrected or removed in it's entirety. It states that I had a prior relationship with Anthony Pellicano which is blatantly false. You cite http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/14/AR2009051401982.html  as the source. Even if you use that source material no where in Del Quentin's article does it state that Pellicano was a "prior boyfriend". It merely states prior relationship albeit a false statement. I was never contacted by Del Quentin Wilber. To assume that prior relationship equals romantic is sexist. You wouldn't write that about a man who had an alleged "prior relationship" Regardless it is stated as fact with no supporting evidence. 

This is currently under review at the Washington Post and will be corrected in their archives. For now I ask you to at least rewrite the section and remove the words "prior boyfriend." Also on the Pellicano page you repeat that same mistake. I do not know how else to fix this problem so thought you could help. I am not sure why this is surfacing after 10 yrs and has never been posted. It should not be this difficult to correct and I am not sure why you and other editors are so determined to perpetuate a lie. thank you for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Linda Fiorentino Really (talk • contribs) 21:19, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

I've asked for administrator assistance. Hopefully you'll get the help you need. Best regards, CapnZapp (talk) 23:08, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

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where to discuss

my experience affects the general issue, because not all of us use talk pages the same way, DGG ( talk ) 18:08, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

With respect, User:DGG, you conforming to the same guidelines we all abide by, is a completely separate issue. The ONLY issue I have raised over there is "should the rule of thumb stay 75K?". So unless you're ready to argue why we should increase the WP:TALKCOND limit for everyone to, say 1 megabyte, I see no particular applicability of your case. Me posting messages on your talk page has nothing to do with this. Regards, CapnZapp (talk) 20:55, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Enough

I don't know what specific edits this is in response to, but regardless, it's uncalled for. Let me hit you with another rule of thumb: don't template the regulars, especially when the template you use implies that they're new to Misplaced Pages when they've been around as long as you have, for twelve years and counting. Keep discussing things on the WP talk page, but stop messaging EEng directly like this. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 16:46, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

User:Writ Keeper If you had spent a second to look at his talk page (or my contribution history) you would have seen that I did try the personalized friendly tone first: . It did not help - he persisted in sniping the discussion. The next step is to build up to the level 4 warning template and then report him, just like any other user. Or, obviously, have him stop his disruptive behavior, which would be infinitely better. (It's certainly not the case that our policies prohibit "templating the regulars" - for one thing I'm sure you know you linked to an essay) But maybe what you're trying to say is there's no need to hold off reporting him? In that case, I would be interested to hear your argument why admins won't just dismiss the complaint on grounds of not warning the user properly first. Cheers CapnZapp (talk) 13:31, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

CapnZapp, for what it's worth, there is no requirement that a warning template be applied to count as "properly warned," and if you did open a complaint, your normal talk page discussion would have been sufficient. _{a creffett franchise} (talk to the boss) 13:41, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

What Creffett said: the only time one has to build up to the level 4 warning template before reporting is if you're reporting them to AIV, and I really hope you know enough about our processes and the difference between editing disputes and raw vandalism to know that that would be bad. ANI, which presumably is where you would report them, only asks for you to Consider first discussing the issue on the user's talk page; nothing about the escalating warnings, and certainly no hard requirement for it, and certainly nothing about using condescending templates first. So cut that out. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 14:25, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Street or road name

The archiving at Talk:Street or road name, which you did, has somehow become incorrect. Please help, because I have no experience with Misplaced Pages archiving.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 18:37, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

User:Dthomsen8: Thanks. Just an anon making a mistake, easily reverted. Cheers CapnZapp (talk) 18:43, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

"Gpedia" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Raegan Revord moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Raegan Revord, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Misplaced Pages). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Misplaced Pages's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Citrivescence (talk) 20:33, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

User:Citrivescence There has been a mistake, since the article clearly meets all requirements. Please undo your action at your earliest convenience. CapnZapp (talk) 20:56, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

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