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Obamagate - A hashtag in search of a scandal - A Fake scandal. Looks like Trump is trying to create the "birther movement" II Conspiracy Theory

I was surprised when I was unable to find a Misplaced Pages article concerning "Obamagate". Maybe it isn't history yet.

Obamagate is the Orange Donald's latest wackadoodle conspiracy theory concerning how President Obama has/is undermining the Orange Donald's presidency. Somehow he has included the Democrat Presidental Candidate Joe Biden as one of the conspirators.

The Orange Donald is trying to make Obamagate a "thing". President Obama, according to the Orange Donald, has "done some bad things"; however, the Orange Donald Trump has not actually explained what those illegal acts are. When asked what crimes Obama had committed, Trump told reporters: “Uh, Obamagate. It’s been going on for a long time. It’s been going on from before I even got elected, and it’s a disgrace that it happened.” Trump has called the alleged scandal “worse than Watergate”.

May Philip Rucker of the Washington Post called Trump’s bluff. He asked, “In one of your Mother’s Day tweets, you appeared to accuse President Obama of ‘the biggest political crime in American history, by far’ — those were your words. What crime exactly are you accusing President Obama of committing, and do you believe the Justice Department should prosecute him?” The Orange Donald's reply was "You know what the crime is. The crime is very obvious to everybody. All you have to do is read the newspapers, except yours.”

It seems that the Orange Donald is being pretty lazy in laying the foundation for this conspiracy. But we have a President and his conspiracy theory, and madness enthuses.

Ned Price, a former CIA analyst who served as a National Security Council spokesman under Obama, said, “No one knows what ‘Obamagate’ is, and that includes President Trump. It’s a hashtag in search of a scandal. The only people it will galvanize are those already 1,000 percent behind Trump".

The Orange Donald is trying to recreate a new birther movement-type conspiracy theory to deflect attention from his failures to lead and botching, actually failed to respond rationally, his response to the COVID19 pandemic.

There is plenty of grist for the mill here. It seems that a Misplaced Pages article is needed to document this next chapter in Trump Conspiracy Theory Politics.

Osomite (talk) 20:58, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

This doesn't need it's own article. The only notable coverage of it from reliable sources is donnie and his cronies bumbling as they try to explain what it even is. All "obamagate" is, is an insignificant sidenote. It needs to be acknowledged on the list of conspiracy theories promoted by the orange traitor, but dedicating anything more to it than a single sentence and maybe two citations, is giving undue attention to right wing bullshit, which is not what Misplaced Pages is for. 46.97.170.78 (talk) 07:49, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

This seems more a puerile anti-Trump tirade than a genuine suggestion for editing changes. Can you provide citations that "Obamagate" is worthy of a standalone article? Zaathras (talk) 12:23, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Do you have anything legitimate to say, or are you just going to troll people here? 46.97.170.78 (talk) 13:13, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

If you need help comprehending my English-language statement, I'm sure there are resources out there for you to reference. Zaathras (talk) 18:12, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

This issue is not going to go away anytime soon especially in a US election year. Some of my colleagues are already saying Misplaced Pages is pure left wing propaganda. Now I know that is total nonsense but if you do not have an article or a redirect Misplaced Pages is in effect making a political statement and that is not good. Even the comments on this talk page are a little nasty and not balanced and not worthy of an encyclopedia in my humble opinion GRALISTAIR (talk) 12:49, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Anyone with a brain knows wikipedia is not left wing propaganda. It's not our fault that right wingers are so out of touch with reality that they whine about "left wing propaganda" any time they see something that doesn't try to push for false balance between verified facts and their crackpot conspiracy theories, pseudoscience and religious idiocy. Reality itself has a left wing bias. That says more about the right and the trump cult than us. Also, it doesn't matter how much we will hear about this conspiracy theory for the next few months, all wikipedia cares about is what the reliable sources say. Ajd mark my word, this is ALL we will hear from reliable sources on this subject: unsubstantiated conspiracy theory, pushed by trump cronies, that even they themselves don't know what it's about. End of story. The WalkAway campaign was supposedly a big deal during the midterms if you got your news from the right wing ideolical bubble on YouTube. Misplaced Pages only had a redirect to Russian web brigades, and I'm still not sure why it wasn't kept that way. The closest thing that "movement" has to coverage by a reliable source is a skit where Stephen Colbert exposes it as fake. 46.97.170.78 (talk) 13:12, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

And you have just made the point for me and not signed in so kept yourself anonymous. That does not bode well for a good encyclopedic entry in my humble opinion GRALISTAIR (talk) 16:42, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

I presented actual points and you respond with an ad hominem. Is THAT your idea of what an encyclopedic entry shiuld be? 46.97.170.78 (talk) 16:53, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

You first sentence - "anyone with a brain" - you tell me who is engaging in ad hominems - I gave a point of view and actual talking points too and there is no ad hominem because you are anonymous GRALISTAIR (talk) 17:20, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Ignore the troll, they soon move on to shiner things in a moment. Zaathras (talk) 18:12, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Maybe everyone can refrain from bickering and focus on the topic at hand. I don't believe that Obamagate warrants a standalone article status. Although it seems similar to SpyGate, the SpyGate scandal appeared to have specific allegations. Granted, those specific allegations were revealed to be false, but they were specific, unlike the allegations made about Obamagate, which appear to be incredibly vague.DreamShuffler (talk) 23:38, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Agreed. It doesn't matter how much media coverage this will get, we can't just make up a new article for every separate conspiracy theory trump make up. That would just help validate him in the mind of his cultists and it's not what wikipedia is meant for. Just add it to the long list of other lies he made up. 46.97.170.78 (talk) 05:06, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Please provide a page about Obamagate

Please provide a clear redirect to a section discussing the topic Obamagate or describe it in this page. I saw a tweet by Trump with this text "OBAMAGATE!", but I'm unable to find info about this on Misplaced Pages. This page redirects to a generic page that does not help. Jan Vlug (talk) 06:30, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages only documents what reliable sources say. In this case, it's trump just dropping the hashtag out there, then bubling like an idiot because even he doesn't know what it's about. There's an ongoing discussion, and it will hopefully settle with a redirect to a longer list of bullshit claims trump made, pr a list of alt right conspiracy theories, which is the only coverage it deserves. 46.97.170.78 (talk) 10:26, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

1. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1261751862027595776?s=20