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Re: Hindi sources

From Talk:Mustafabad,_Haryana, lots of sources in Hindi which I can't read, so I'm going to sit this one out, suggestion in the first part of this post might help. --Titodutta (talk) 03:48, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks but I already use Chrome's translate feature. It was failing to translate several of the websites for some reason. Cesdeva  04:02, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

OD template

I corrected the indents per WP:INDENT and added a missing {{od}} template at Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#Draft:Souvik_Mandal hope you dont mind.--DBigXrayᗙ 13:57, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you User:DBigXray, I know I missed a colon at one point and forgot to correct it. I wouldn't have worried about the OD template though; i normally outdent at roughly six colons and find it obvious enough. It can cause a little snaking in protracted discussions, but typing ten or eleven colons in a row is one of the most soul-destroying experiences available to us as a Misplaced Pages editor. (If using a mobile, the alternative copypasta+1 technique is like threading a small needle while simultaneously trying to find Waldo in a book that's floating inside a fish tank stocked with a large shoal of red and white koi carp.) Cesdeva  15:26, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
haha, I can understand the feeling. cheers. --DBigXrayᗙ 16:17, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

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Re: AfC submission: Draft:Kingston, Glasgow

Hi, I replied to your email, but I'm not sure if you received it, so here it is again with a couple of additional comments:

I'm already struggling with Misplaced Pages and this is becoming hard work. Kinning Park has its own entry and is next door to the left of Kingston. Tradeston has its own entry and its a smaller district next door to the right of Kingston. So Kingston clearly deserves its own entry too. Kinning Park, Kingston & Tradeston are all listed as districts in the Govan Ward, so why is Kingston the only one without its own entry? Why does this have to be so difficult?

Thank you

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Picallin

What you received wasn't an email from me; it was an email notification from the Wikimedia servers. Basically if you reply to that, it won't reach me.

I'm sorry that you haven't felt supported enough in the Articles for Creation process so far.

Your logic about the districts has some merit.

One reason for the cautious approach so far is that since 2006, the Misplaced Pages page Kingston, Glasgow has existed as a redirect to Tradeston.

I'm going to invite User:Curb Safe Charmer to this discussion, so we can figure out a way forward.

Also pinging User:Mais oui! in case they want to weigh in about the redirect. Although they don't appear to have been active for a year. Cesdeva  00:22, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks for attending the Southern California Regional mini Unconference, in Chinatown, Los Angeles, in March 2019. Without your attendance, the event would not have been the success it was! We look forward in seeing you again at our future events. RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 03:34, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

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NPR Newsletter No.17

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News
Discussions of interest
  • Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
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  • There is an ongoing discussion on a proposal to create subject-specific notability guidelines for chemicals and organism taxa.
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  • NPR is not a binary keep / delete process. In many cases a redirect may be appropriate. The deletion policy and its associated guideline clearly emphasise that not all unsuitable articles must be deleted. Redirects are not contentious. See a classic example of the templates to use. More templates are listed at the R template index. Reviewers who are not aware, do please take this into consideration before PROD, CSD, and especially AfD because not even all admins are aware of such policies, and many NAC do not have a full knowledge of them.
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NPR Newsletter No.18

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WMF at work on NPP Improvements

Niharika Kohli, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:

  • Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
  • Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.
Reliable Sources for NPP

Rosguill has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.

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New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019

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WMF at work on NPP Improvements

More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important.

QUALITY of REVIEWING

Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR.

Backlog

The backlog is still far too high at between 7,000 and 8,000. Of around 700 user rights holders, 80% of the reviewing is being done by just TWO users. In the light of more and more subtle advertising and undeclared paid editing, New Page Reviewing is becoming more critical than ever.

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New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019

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Backlog

Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.

Coordinator

A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.

This month's refresher course

Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.

Deletion tags

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Paid editing

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Subject-specific notability guidelines' (SNG). Alternatives to deletion
  • Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves once more with notability guidelines for organisations and companies.
  • Blank-and-Redirect is a solution anchored in policy. Please consider this alternative before PRODing or CSD. Note however, that users will often revert or usurp redirects to re-create deleted articles. Do regularly patrol the redirects in the feed.
Not English
  • A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, and if they do have potential, tag as required, then move to draft. Modify the text of the template as appropriate before sending it.
Tools

Regular reviewers will appreciate the most recent enhancements to the New Pages Feed and features in the Curation tool, and there are still more to come. Due to the wealth of information now displayed by ORES, reviewers are strongly encouraged to use the system now rather than Twinkle; it will also correctly populate the logs.

Stub sorting, by SD0001: A new script is available for adding/removing stub tags. See User:SD0001/StubSorter.js, It features a simple HotCat-style dynamic search field. Many of the reviewers who are using it are finding it an improvement upon other available tools.

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New Page Review newsletter November 2019

Hello Cesdeva,

This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon.

Getting the queue to 0

There are now 823 holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action.
Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.
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Coordinator

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This month's refresher course

Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Misplaced Pages article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Misplaced Pages or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources.

Tools
  • It is now possible to select new pages by date range. This was requested by reviewers who want to patrol from the middle of the list.
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Second set of eyes
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New Page Review newsletter December 2019

A graph showing the number of articles in the page curation feed from 12/21/18 - 12/20/19

Reviewer of the Year

This year's Reviewer of the Year is Rosguill. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.

Special commendation again goes to Onel5969 who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to Boleyn and JTtheOG who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.

Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.

Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.

Top 10 Reviewers over the last 365 days
Rank Username Num reviews Log
1 Rosguill (talk) 47,395 Patrol Page Curation
2 Onel5969 (talk) 41,883 Patrol Page Curation
3 JTtheOG (talk) 11,493 Patrol Page Curation
4 Arthistorian1977 (talk) 5,562 Patrol Page Curation
5 DannyS712 (talk) 4,866 Patrol Page Curation
6 CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk) 3,995 Patrol Page Curation
7 DragonflySixtyseven (talk) 3,812 Patrol Page Curation
8 Boleyn (talk) 3,655 Patrol Page Curation
9 Ymblanter (talk) 3,553 Patrol Page Curation
10 Cwmhiraeth (talk) 3,522 Patrol Page Curation

(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)

Redirect autopatrol

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Source Guide Discussion

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Source Guide Discussion

The first NPP source guide discussion is now underway. It covers a wide range of sources in Ghana with the goal of providing more guidance to reviewers about sources they might see when reviewing pages. Hopefully, new page reviewers will join others interested in reliable sources and those with expertise in these sources to make the discussion a success.

Redirects

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Discussions and Resources
Refresher

Geographic regions, areas and places generally do not need general notability guideline type sourcing. When evaluating whether an article meets this notability guideline please also consider whether it might actually be a form of WP:SPAM for a development project (e.g. PR for a large luxury residential development) and not actually covered by the guideline.

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May 2020

Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Misplaced Pages, as you did at Donald Trump, you may be blocked from editing. Template:Z188 ―Mandruss ☎ 20:06, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

As an editor, thank you User:Mandruss for reverting vandalism. As a human, why revert? Don't expect silence while the suffering persists. Cesdeva  20:16, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages is not a platform for political statement and protest, and certainly not by vandalism of its articles. Keep that up and expect to be indefinitely blocked in short order. ―Mandruss ☎ 20:19, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
User:Mandruss There is no politics. This is your fellow humans being murdered on cold concrete. Wikimedia is looking positively white supremacist if it doesn't make a stand against police brutality. Until Wikimedia stands against the horror, i'm sure editors who aren't robots will be making similar edits to me. Again, thank you for your work. But seriously, look less at the policy pages and more at what's happening around you. Cesdeva  20:25, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Cesdeva, are you suggesting that the best way to fight against ignorance and bigotry, is to destroy an educational reference work? And replace it with Hitler jokes? How would that help anyone? Stop this now. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 20:53, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

No one said destroy bro, just utilise in a small way. Cesdeva  20:55, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Have you stopped to ask "what if everyone did that?" Misplaced Pages would be destroyed, yes, in a few days. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 20:58, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
One could argue that my edits made this resource more educational. Have a good night; I'm not going to make any more edits tonight, promise. Cesdeva  21:03, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. But I don't think you literally believe that File:Adolf Hitler Berghof-1936.jpg is a picture of Donald Trump. That's not "educational"; that's childish. And your edits to United States only teach the reader that someone, somewhere on the internet, feels strongly about something. What if instead they read Police brutality in the United States? Maybe then they'll come to agree with your position. But they'll never get to that page if at the top of every article there's someone shouting in ALL CAPS about whatever they think (perhaps rightly) is a worthwhile cause. A final note. If you put something similar on your user page, that might be argued to be a violation of WP:POLEMIC. But it's not one I will personally bother reporting. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 21:21, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Cesdeva, I've blocked you indefinitely for vandalism as it seems likely you will continue your vandalism campaign. Any admin can feel free to unblock if Cesdeva indicates they will stop vandalizing. Hopefully by morning you'll realize that vandalizing Misplaced Pages will not in any way help end police brutality. Galobtter (pingó mió) 21:33, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
And I've unblocked, as 3 vandalisms from a 7-year-old account in otherwise good standing is not worth an indef. --Golbez (talk) 13:34, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
@Golbez: I'm not sure you understand the meaning of indef. Galobtter clearly said the block could be lifted if Cesdeva agreed to stop vandalizing, a very reasonable position. If Cesdeva declined to do that – and every indication they've given here is that they believe their vandalism was not only forgivable but righteous – a permanent block would be preventative and warranted. By unblocking, you've unnecessarily complicated and prolonged the situation. Now we have to wait and see whether they continue vandalizing, and most of us have better things to do. ―Mandruss ☎ 15:37, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
@Mandruss: I'm quite certain I know the meaning of indef, considering I was an admin nearly a decade before you even joined Misplaced Pages. I was about to block Cesdeva myself, but they were done for the night - blocks are preventative, not punitive. They hadn't vandalized since their last notice, and made no indication they were going to resume. An indef block of an account in otherwise good standing who made three vandalisms hours earlier helps no one. I unblocked based on Galobtter saying "if they indicate they will stop vandalizing" - they had, by ceasing to vandalize before the block was implemented. --Golbez (talk) 16:01, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
@Golbez: No. They said, I'm not going to make any more edits tonight, promise. Emphasis on "tonight". They gave zero indication they would stop after tonight, they said absolutely nothing to indicate that they now understood that the vandalism was wrong, and in fact they repeatedly defended it. Under those circumstances the behavior does not have to be happening at this precise moment for a block to be preventative. ―Mandruss ☎ 16:08, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
@Mandruss: You are free to reblock if you like, otherwise this conversation has run its course. --Golbez (talk) 16:10, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
I'm not an admin, which of course means I have no power here. I was merely trying to reason with an editor who does. You're right about this having run its course. ―Mandruss ☎ 16:13, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Pardons, I was getting you mixed up with Galobtter. --Golbez (talk) 16:15, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

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