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Lucas' and Spielberg's doomsday prediction: WP:SOAP or not?

There's a paragraph on the bottom of modern cinema, which looks a bit out of place in an encyc. I'll copypaste it directly and save you the trouble of clicking away:

According to Steven Spielberg and George Lucas, 2013 has seen "the industry at an extraordinary time of upheaval, where even proven talents find it difficult to get movies into theaters"; Spielberg predicts "there's eventually going to be an implosion — or a big meltdown. There's going to be an implosion where three or four or maybe even a half-dozen megabudget movies are going to go crashing into the ground, and that's going to change the paradigm", with Lucas suggesting movie theaters following "a Broadway play model, whereby fewer movies are released, they stay in theaters for a year and ticket prices are much higher."

To me, this looks like pure gossip and just a piece of casual opinion. From two of the greatest men in business, yes, but still. Lucas and Spielberg might be the most experienced Hollywood men currently alive, but that does not give them scholar-like expertise about the future of Hollywood, and Misplaced Pages should not treat it as such. Much like we (by current consensus) don't mention Donald Trump's mental health and quote people who has not personally examined him, we should not publicize the opinions of celebrities-turned-scientists here either. On the other hand, if the subject about Hollywood's destruction was more written about and overall more notable around the web, then I'd certainly say we keep the statement and add more sources. But as we stand today... not so sure. Is Hollywood doomsday predictions that common around the blogosphere and scholar-sphere?
The only source to the statements looks indeed reliable and formal, so no worry there. I was just thinking - is the mention notable enough, or is it nothing but an anecdote interview? I'm tempted to remove it right away, but wanted to check if anyone knows more about the subject matter. Thankful for cooperation, thankful for Misplaced Pages, Gaioa (t,c,l) 17:48, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

A week has passed and no-one has said anything. I am removing that paragraph now, without consensus. I truly find it out of place.Thankful for cooperation, thankful for Misplaced Pages, Gaioa (t,c,l) 19:01, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Battle of the Teamsters

Major topic missed. Nothing in here about Teamsters Local 399 and their battles with the Hollywood studios, where the studios want to rid themselves of restrictive practises by the Union. --BeckenhamBear (talk) 18:57, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Changing modern cinema to contemporary cinema(Plus adding in a ton of updates to the topic)

Here an idea that is definitely need on this article. Let change the name of modern cinema to contemporary and update the content of the article to add the current state of the film industry. The Modern section of the film industry is so outdated that I tired of waiting around for people to notice it. First off there is no mention of the films that are used to define the contemporary era of Hollywood in the early 2000s to the current decade. These film after there releases would still have an impact on film and I still don't see a single mention of them; such Star Wars, Harry Potter, Twilight and The Marvel Trilogy of films. Secondly, there are platforms on the internet that are influencing the film making industry, the biggest example is Netflix. Netflix is gaining as much of an audience as traditional Hollywood blockbusters. I'm not able to show examples, but I can point at the stock market value of Netflix; which is higher than Disney and the other Hollywood companies.

I will try to find sources that would define the current era of cinema and share it here. There properly a lot of info on contemporary cinema, I will make sure that I will look through it before posting. --User:Picaxe01 (talk) 5:25, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Change of Filming location to Toronto

There is the history where film locations started,where and why it left...But not the where and why of now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.111.137.239 (talk) 06:28, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Nazi versions

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/jun/29/historian-says-hollywood-collaborated-with-nazis

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/how-hollywood-helped-hitler-595684 Xx236 (talk) 11:15, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Urwand, Ben. The Collaboration: Hollywood's Pact with Hitler. Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 2013. Xx236 (talk) 11:17, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Racism in early American film

Isn't this page biased? It ignores problems like Nazism and racism.Xx236 (talk) 08:10, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

it was Griffith's controversial 1915 epic Birth of a Nation - what was controversial? Xx236 (talk) 08:14, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
https://www.amazon.com/Hollywood-Party-Communism-American-Industry/dp/0761513760 Xx236 (talk) 08:16, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Anybody can edit or submit copy. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 03:18, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Selection of stars

So I understand that any list will be controversial and it's difficult to find a cutoff, but the gallery of stars from the golden age shown seems to be a pretty comprehensive selection of the biggest stars but manages to miss Charlie Chaplin, arguably *the* dominant superstar for the critical early period with a career spanning throughout, and a single person of colour: Sidney Poitier, most obviously. Florence Lawrence, Dick van Dyke, Mickey Rooney, Sessue Hayakawa - these are debatable choices. But Sidney Poitier and Charlie Chaplin? This literally includes the top 22 men and 22 women from the AFI's list of top stars except these two with Chaplin at 10th and Poitier the only one of colour - yet neither are even mentioned in the article. Poitier was a US citizen and Sophia Loren and Laurence Olivier were not, so that's not it either. Harsimaja (talk) 19:00, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

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