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Initial post

Intriguing how much those 2 paintings just sold for (over half a million US$)! In preauction estimates, they were anticipated to bring $30,000-$50,000 each. Shows how important they are to our (alleged) culture! Elf | Talk 20:51, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I recently saw what I think was a Gary Larson cartoon showing a series of "prototypes" for the painting, involving snakes, chickens and cows. Can anyone confirm that I am not mistaken, I would like to add this to the popular culture section but I want to check my facts first.

A Friend In Need

It seems like, most of the time, when one of these paintings is seen in pop culture, it's A Friend In Need that they use. An example of this would be on the TV sitcom Roseanne. Perhaps this information should be included in the article.

Agreed --Magallanes 01:18, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Computer Game

There was a computer game based on the paintings.

Which one? 200.117.37.221 23:30, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Cheers

I seem to remember an episode of Cheers when Sam was at Robin Colcord's house and saw one of the paintings. He laughed until Robin said it was an original. No idea what episode sorry - SimonLyall 05:00, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Ownership of paintings

Are they all in private hands, or are any on exhibit anywhere? Шизомби (talk) 23:54, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Entire series pictures

I noticed that we only had one of the series up as a picture in the article and it is listed as PD if the rest are in the same time period and hopefully PD shouldn't we have thumbnails of the set up, obviously it's not necessary but considering that some are more famous than others (which ones are more famous is a judgment we shouldn't be making probably) encyclopedically we should show them all. Cat-five - talk 09:21, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

In popular culture section removed

in case anyone goes looking for it. I have mixed feelings about such sections. The more references there are or the more notable the things making the references, is noteworthy, though such things can start to dwarf the actual content of the article. References that are themselves notable (the references have been reported on) ought not to fall afoul of this, but may be harder to find. Шизомби (talk) 01:15, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Not sure you should be removing or adding anything simply based on mixed feelings. There are probably guidelines on this that should be consulted rather than personal opinion.198.108.84.126 (talk) 16:55, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
I re-deleted it. It's trash. There are more professional ways to state that the series is influential without listing every damn video game or Simpson's parody. Secondary sources that discuss the more noteworthy appearances (not that merely list them as primary sources) can add understanding, but amateurish, banal listings of every mention is just stupid. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, not a database. --Animalparty! (talk) 20:20, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Some of the items are notable and worth keeping, but many are minor trivial. Maybe a removal of many and then expanding a few to focus on major or more notable mentions. Randy Kryn (talk) 21:17, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
@Randy Kryn: how do you know they're notable and worth keeping? How is an appearance in an episode of That '70s Show any more or less noteworthy than an allusion in the videogame Undertale? How does it help the reader understand the paintings' impact? Are we making encyclopedia articles or indiscriminate waste-bins of factoids to satisfy OCD trivia nerds? Read WP:TRIVIA and WP:POPCULTURE. "In popular culture" sections, by and large, are a blight on Misplaced Pages (they can be done right, but mostly are not). The only popular culture appearances worth mentioning, per WP:ONUS, WP:PROPORTION, and tenets of good writing, are ones that have been significantly discussed by secondary and tertiary sources. A respectable professional-quality article would simply state something to the effect that the Dogs Playing Poker imagery has deeply permeated American culture, being widely reproduced and parodied, with a few choice examples as discussed in authoritative sources (books, not blogs). --Animalparty! (talk) 04:29, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
Hello Animalparty. On an important level, Dogs Playing Poker may actually have the most popular culture mentions and impact of any painting series. Monet's Water Lilies and his other series are well known, and van Gogh's series are as honored as Monet's, yet they are not repeatedly used throughout the years and across many forms of communication and entertainment as popular culture and societal reference points. Dogs Playing Poker has gained most of its notoriety from the consistent use of the paintings and the meme in popular culture. I think the only question is how many examples to use, and I'd say that quite a few should in order to give adequate examples of that portion of the overall influence of the paintings. Removing the section, as has been done twice before, or vastly reducing it in numbers or to a couple sentence descriptor, removes this important topic-related impact. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:08, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Well, it was still here when I visited the page and I'm glad it was. In fact I was more disturbed by the suggestion that it should be removed. An encyclopedia is a source of information, and covers (clearly) matters that are of interest to people ... a wide variety of people. Some of these matters are deep, serious stuff and some, like this article, refer to items that are amusing and whimsical. The guidelines for material in one area are surely not the same as those for other areas. Please: a little less of the starch collars in corners of the 'pedia like this. 24.87.154.112 (talk) 22:18, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Inconsistency in numbers?

I noticed that in the summary it says there are sixteen paintings in the series, but then in the titles list there are seventeen paintings listed. If I knew which was right I would edit the other! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.180.192.10 (talk) 09:56, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

References to it in new Media ?

Would it be good to have such a section? Please feel free to add a few and then put it in the article. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkMsSIjQXxo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.83.229.66 (talk) 19:51, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Policy discussion in progress

There is a policy discussion in progress at the Manual of Style which affects this page, suggesting that the capitalization of "like" should be removed from the title of these paintings. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — LlywelynII 14:44, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

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