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Jorm

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Request concerning Jorm

User who is submitting this request for enforcement

Pudeo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 23:14, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

User against whom enforcement is requested

Jorm (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

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Sanction or remedy to be enforced

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Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

1. 8 August 2020: fuck off with your transphobia shit personal attack
2. 27 September 2020 : Go fuck yourself, transphobe personal attack
3. 1 October 2020: The Gamergate Controversy is a bullshit set of terms used to describe a misogynist harassment campaign without actually calling it a "harassment campaign" while also not trying to hurt the feelings of a bunch of assholes. It was started by a bunch of chucklefucks-- Battleground attitude, personal attacks etc.
4. 8 October 2020: go fuck yourself personal attack
5. 8 October 2020: Masem always argues that we put the propaganda first. They did it for Gamergate - so much so that those deplorable fucks refer to them as "Based Masem". Masem will always carry water like this. Keep that in mind while developing consensus. Battleground attitude, personal attack

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Additional comments by editor filing complaint

Diffs speak for themselves, and they are all related to the GamerGate/gender topics DS area. Especially the attack on Masem for his GamerGate editing had plenty of unneeded vitriol.

Someone opened a thread about "Attitude" on Jorm's talk page just last week. He responded with his usual "cool story, bro" shtick. --Pudeo (talk) 23:14, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

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Discussion concerning Jorm

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Statement by Jorm

Statement by Jayron32

Other than some salty language, at least 3 of your diffs were reverts from throw away accounts used by abusive bigots. Being told to leave with emphasis is exactly what should be done. I don't see anything there that rises to the level of sanctioning. --Jayron32 23:35, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Statement by Masem

Only noting that I know about the statement Jorm made in that discussion related to me and I just let it pass and still plan on letting it pass. Its disappointing that people want to dreg that up and assume bad faith when I try to argue on neutral stances on WP, but such is the case. --Masem (t) 00:26, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Statement by Gamaliel

In the words of GorillaWarfare: "We have picked a side, which is that LGBTQ Wikipedians are welcome here." For LGBTQ Wikipedians to be truly welcome here, we should be telling transphobes to fuck off. Gamaliel (talk) 01:54, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Statement by Cullen 328

Personally, I do not use the "f-bomb" on Misplaced Pages (and very rarely in real life) but there is no consensus that the word is banned in these contexts. I encourage Jorm to select other words which are just as effective but less controversial. Trolls, haters and other purely disruptive jerks should be shown the door, quite promptly. As for Jorm's remarks about Masem, I do not see a personal attack but rather a harsh (but defensible) critique of Masem's unique philosophy of editing. Cullen Let's discuss it 04:06, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Statement by SMcCandlish

This is the same sort of personally hostile battlegrounding and socio-political PoV-pushing that lead to me leaving the DS/Alert several months ago. But the editor appears to have simply doubled down. This is not about a specific word and whether it is "banned" (well know it is not). It's about intent and effects, in a long-term disruptive pattern. It's about WP:NPA, WP:CIVIL, WP:NOT, WP:DE, and WP:CIR.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  07:50, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Statement by Sceptre

I see nothing wrong with Jorm telling bigots to go do one; encyclopaedic neutrality does not, and has never, meant neutrality outside of article-space, and demanding civility in the face of bigotry is peak paradox of tolerance. Sceptre (talk) 17:08, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Statement by Levivich

Masem always argues that we put the propaganda first. They did it for Gamergate - so much so that those deplorable fucks refer to them as "Based Masem". Masem will always carry water like this. Keep that in mind while developing consensus.

I can't believe the above statement is being described as a defensible critique of a philosophy of editing or a legitimate behavioral concern. Lev!vich 18:51, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

As to the other comments, while I'm not one to advocate for sanctioning people for using profanity, we'd do better to be more professional, especially in mainspace edit summaries, which are the "official logs" of our articles. Telling people to "f off", even if they deserve it, doesn't make anyone look tough or cool or righteous, it just makes us all look childish for being the kind of place where profanity is used in "official" records. Lev!vich 21:47, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Statement by Huldra

That Jorm has been dealing with some rather unsavoury editors is in no doubt, but seriously, is it not possible to make vandals feel very unwelcome without resorting to a gutter language? That seems rather untalented, me thinks. Huldra (talk) 21:18, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Just my 2 cents: GamerGate etc, is one of the most contentious areas on Misplaced Pages, for sure. But I edit in the I/P area (that's why I watch WP:AE!) - hardly any less contentious area, where trolls, death- and rape-threats are 13 to the dozen ...still, such gutter language (as linked to above) are not seen (in general!) among "the regulars" there.

Why is that?

Also, I suspect if anyone regularly used such language, they would very soon no longer be "a regular"; they would be topic-banned/blocked.

Why do we allow one set of behaviour in one area, but another set of behaviour in another area?

No, I don't want Jorm sanctioned, just a clear warning that such a language will not be accepted in the future (not even when dealing with vandals who are going to "rape your wife to death before they kill you" (just to mention a pretty common threat in the I/P area)) Huldra (talk) 21:45, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Comment by JzG

I think that changing an article to misgender someone should be an instant indef block. We should ask Jorm to dial back the rhetoric, and then go and block the trolls. Guy (help! - typo?) 22:09, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Statement by Liz

Jorm has chosen to patrol some controversial articles which attract drive-by editors with extreme attitudes who he often effectively shooes away. I don't use the f-bomb and I don't think it is necessary to get your point across. But I can understand its use with some hostile newbies who seek to cause disruption or to radically shift articles that usually have volumes of talk page discussions that have occurred to arrive at a consensus in the article tone and wording.

What I would like to challenge him on though is his use of "Cool story, bro" to editors who are not fly-by-night but are regular editors who just are coming from a different, often opposing, perspective. It's an unnecessarily dismissive and condescending phrase that isn't an appropriate response to another editor's argument. We know that these pages can be polarizing but I think it's important to meet a serious critique from a regular editor with a counter-argument not a flippant reply.

The comment about Masem seems like old news (Gamergate was in 2014-2015!) and it is odd to be rehashing events years later, but if the comment doesn't offend Masem, I don't think we should be imposing any restrictions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liz (talk • contribs)

Statement by Grayfell

All of these edits appear appropriate in context. Transphobia is itself a violation of Misplaced Pages's principles, so this seems more like a witch-hunt then an actionable complaint. Also, all this tone policing and pearl-clutching over "swear words" seems disproportionate and, ironically, very immature. Grayfell (talk) 22:36, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Statement by Shinealittlelight

Admin Swarm once told me the following, which to me seems relevant to the remarks Jorm made about Masem:

Comment on content, not contributors. It really is as simple as that. For example, let's say someone's being a complete prick, and everyone agrees. Is it okay to call them out on being a prick? No, it's not okay to make an accusation, even if you're not wrong. You report them to WP:AN/I with evidence of relevant policy violations, and we will block them. Let's say a user is an obvious sockpuppet. Is it okay to accuse them of being a sockpuppet? No. Again, report to admins with evidence. Let's say someone obviously has a strong bias. Is it okay to imply that they are being motivated by their bias? No, as long as they're complying with policies, their obvious bias is irrelevant. The overwhelming majority of us have strong biases, and the overwhelming majority of us do not POV-push in articles. If someone is editing with an obvious WP:COI, such as a user deleting negative content from an article about their business, of course that's not tolerated. But, even then, you don't attack their character or argue with them, you simply report them to us so we can handle them accordingly. It's really pretty simple. Don't over think it. If you're going to make a negative comment about someone personally, don't.

Shinealittlelight (talk) 22:53, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Result concerning Jorm

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• Looking over the diffs, the only one that is actionable is this personal attack on Masem. At this time I think that we don't need to do more than to remind Jorm to focus on the content not the contributor. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 00:05, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

  I have to say that this makes me uncomfortable --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 14:52, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

• The real question is: Do our policies on civility apply to trolls? We have traditionally been very lenient when it comes to responding to throwaway accounts, but this pushes the limit a bit. The real problem is the Masem reply, as Guerillero noted above. I agree with Guerillero that harsh sanctions aren't needed, although I think more than a soft touch is warranted, and would instead recommend a strongly worded warning that civility isn't optional and the lack of it serves to make the editing environment more toxic. especially on the talk pages of controversial subjects where there is often more heat than light. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 12:31, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
• My hesitation about any type of warning here is basically what Cullen328 said: this is a legitimate, though strongly stated, critique of the behaviour of another editor. If this was said at ANI/here with diffs it’d be allowable. It didn’t have diffs, so it was an aspersion. That’s not good, but I’m also loathe to start sanctioning or warning people for pointing out what is a legitimate behavioural concern. It does need diffs, though, and that is my biggest concern. Jorm, if you encounter this issue again provide diffs and take it to AE or AN. We have a rule against aspersions for a reason. Note: I’ve disagreed with Masem twice in recent days on how our policies apply to white supremacism, but I don’t consider myself involved in regards to him or the topic area, but I think it worth noting. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:09, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
• I would suggest that at minimum, a warning to focus on content instead of contributors is in order. And it's time we accept that labeling people as "deplorables" is always going to be counterproductive. ~Awilley (talk) 16:36, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
• I don't think there's much to be done here. However, TonyBallioni the fact that the comment didn't come in a conduct forum and was not supported with diffs is incredibly important. There is a reason we have conduct forums: so our article talk pages can stay focused on content. There is a reason we demand diffs: we don't want to support casting aspersions. If there were a pattern of some the behavior towards Masem being presented I'd feel differently. However, one such act by a longterm productive editor (like Jorm) needs a friendly nudge - and being brought to AE is already more than a friendly nudge - rather than a formal sanction. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:42, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
• Reverting even truly horrible edits with "go fuck yourself" edit summaries is unfortunate. Even apart from any concerns about decorum, it's just too much fun for the troll on the other end who will think he has successfully gotten a rise out of a perceived enemy. Don't make this a fun paintball game, just stick with boring "Undid revision 982224172 by 190.193.156.241". As for the Masem edit, it isn't some reasonable complaint that just needed a couple of diffs or another forum to be okay. It's a battleground attack which attempts to paint Masem as a member of some hated enemy team. I would support a warning. Haukur (talk) 10:33, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
• I would support a warning, not in the interests of decorum or because trolls deserve consideration, but because focusing on content rather than editors, and discussing behavior only with evidence and in appropriate fora, are pretty fundamental aspects of our behavioral expectations, and refusing to participate in a discussion about one's own behavior is not a good look, per Guerillero. Also, speaking purely tactically for a moment, swearing at trolls is typically going to make any trolling problem worse, not better. WP:RBI and WP:DFTT exist for a reason. Vanamonde (Talk) 15:55, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
• I've got a pretty hard time caring too much if someone replies "Go fuck yourself" to a section entitled "Why don't you be factual and not libtarded?" followed by an obviously transphobic rant. Yes, ideally, we shouldn't sink to the troll's level, but such an individual is obviously not here in good faith. On the other hand, this , followed by the dismissive attitude here , are not acceptable at all. The first is a clear personal attack and, without evidence, a casting of aspersions against a longtime editor (with serious allegations at that), and the second shows that Jorm does not particularly care about this type of behavior (the "cool story" part appears to be a reference to the sarcastic and dismissive "Cool story, bro" expression, and that's not an acceptable way of engaging a good-faith request). I would support a final warning that one should revert, block, and ignore trolls and vandals, and that one is expected to treat fellow editors, including those with one whom disagrees, with a reasonable degree of respect and civility and not engaging in personal attacks, including evidence-free allegations of malicious intent. Seraphimblade 16:12, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

John2510

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Request concerning John2510

User who is submitting this request for enforcement

Struthious Bandersnatch (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 02:09, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

User against whom enforcement is requested

John2510 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

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Sanction or remedy to be enforced

WP:ARBBLP :

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

1. 19:42, 12 October 2020 copyvio from this source, archive
2. 12:27, 13 October 2020 reintroduced copyvio after being notified via user talk page that this ARE issue had been opened
3. 19:26, 12 October 2020 deletes source and then separately at 19:42, 12 October 2020 deletes the wording that had been supported by the source (and introduced the copyvio, latter is the same diff as above)
4. 19:30, 12 October 2020 deletes source with the edit comment Source does not mention Richards case and then after I pointed out in my own edit comment that the source linked to the full text of the (SCOTUS decision) case while discussing it, and said the same thing in the article talk page accompanied by a lengthy explanation indicating not only why I thought the source supported the sentence content, but why I thought it was not simply duplicative of the remaining source left as a reference for the sentence, they again earlier today at 12:27, 13 October 2020 removed the same source, along with a second source referred to in the preceding list item, with the edit comment See talk. Not what the source says. No source for later analysis. (as part of restoring the copyvio, latter diff same as above)
5. 22:33, 12 October 2020 a third edit between the two diffs presented in the preceding list item also deletes the source after I restored it with an edit comment pointing out that it linked to the full text of the SCOTUS decision, with John2510's edit comment ignoring my own and again claiming The deleted source doesn't even mention the case, let alone say that it applies, but before I'd elaborated further on the article talk page.

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

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2. Date Explanation

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• Gave an alert about discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict in the last twelve months, on 18:03, 2 June 2020

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

I don't know if there were any previous sanctions. I didn't submit this at CCI because I don't know if there are previous cases of copyvio.

I had not interacted with this editor before very recently on the article talk page where we had conflict. Things seemed to be getting more cordial but then I noticed that one of their first article edits subsequent to the talk page conflict introduced copyvio for apparent expediency in rewriting a sentence: note that lack of specificity, which allowed those executing it to target Taylor and her boyfriend — as part of an investigation in which their involvement was never firmly established and whose main suspect and accomplices were already in police custody — violated the is identical down to punctuation and spacing between the diff and the source and the rest of the sentence is similar besides.

So this would seem to fit somewhere in the AE talk page notice prohibition fail to adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process. I'm just realizing that unlike other AE notices I've encountered this one does not request immediate reporting but given that WP:COPYVIO isn't just a policy, but a "Misplaced Pages policy with legal considerations" I'll submit this and leave it to ARE's judgement.

For full disclosure, I wrote the original sentence that was modified and I restored it to my original wording to fix the copyvio.

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

13 October 2020

Discussion concerning John2510

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Statement by John2510

In this bulk edit Struthious Bandersnatch included reference to the Richards case, as well as analysis that appears to be wholly OR. Reviewing his sources, I could find only one that even mentioned the case, and did so as a characterization from something out of a separate Washington Post opinion statement. The characterization from the source was entirely different from the editor's point. Rather than being accused of mischaracterizing the brief statement, I used the statement from the article making only minor structural changes. It appears to fall well within fair use, but I've invited the other editor to paraphrase it if he feels otherwise. He could have done that instead of coming here, of course. John2510 (talk) 12:52, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

I had restored the text and noted its fair use in talk prior to seeing this pending action. I've now deleted it pending the outcome of the arbitration. John2510 (talk) 12:59, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

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Statement by Struthious Bandersnatch

I guess I should also say that this would seem like a quickly-fixed minor incident to me, to under other circumstances handle one-on-one rather than with a reporting process, if it weren't a nearly-14-year editor who is a member of WikiProject Law and is Aware™ of Arbitration Enforcement and did it on an AE-marked article furthermore marked |topic=blp. --‿Ꞅtruthious 𝔹andersnatch ͡ |℡| 02:23, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

• John2510 has now restored the copyvio without any paraphrasing or rewriting. --‿Ꞅtruthious 𝔹andersnatch ͡ |℡| 12:53, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Fair use is not an offhanded excuse for WP:PLAGIARISM to save yourself time; it involves marking the unlicensed copyrighted content and attributing it to its source, as I pointed out in our article talk page exchange earlier today, John2510. (edit: I note that based upon time stamps your comment here preceded my comment there by a couple of minutes.) The way you did it is even more misleading because you also added an intext reference to The Washington Post while the source you were plagiarizing was New York Magazine. How many times have you done this kind of thing during the last fourteen years?Also, as from your wording you may not be clear on the matter, this is not an arbitration specifically of a disagreement between you and I; "arbitration" refers to the fact that I have filled out this report about a violation of the 2008 / amended 2015 WP:ARBBLP decision which you were formally alerted to on your user talk page in June of this year by Objective3000 in the diff above, and which the article we have been editing, Shooting of Breonna Taylor, is marked as included under by the notice at the top of its talk page.Speaking of your user talk page, I alerted you to this discussion there in the diff linked to above, ten hours before you restored the copyvio.Since John2510 has expanded the scope here there are at least a couple of other aspects of their conduct in editing that article which seem relevant to fail to adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process—
    1. they have deleted a source individually in one edit with one edit comment rationale, then in a subsequent edit deleted the content supported by the source with an edit comment claiming it was unsupported
    2. they have repeatedly deleted a source, by itself, with the edit comment rationale that it did not support the statement it was a reference for, despite me pointing out in both my own edit comments and the article talk page that the source did directly refer to the cited material.
    I have added diffs showing my preceding two points up above but if those sections were supposed to remain unmodified they can be moved down here to accompany my statement.I will concede, after closely examining the sources, that there may have been some mild SYNTH in the way that I wrote the original sentence which was overwritten with the copyvio. But of course that in no way justifies plagiarism via copyright infringement in an article both included under Arbitration Enforcement and WP:BLP policy, nor playing deceptive games with sources and edit comments. (Or, for that matter, reintroducing the copyvio after being notified that it was copyright infringement in the edit comment, in the article talk page, and by user talk page that this ARE issue discussed it.)@Seraphimblade: I did not intend the capitalization and trademark symbol on "aware" as uncivil snark, but rather as mildly humorous in passing; I have used that formulation to refer to myself. But if it was inappropriately harsh or seemed to make light of what ArbCom and ARE do, I accept the warning and apologize. My own conduct in this forum or on an AE-marked article is just as appropriate for scrutiny as is John2510's. --‿Ꞅtruthious 𝔹andersnatch ͡ |℡| 17:42, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
  • @Seraphimblade: (and other admins) I should ask, to properly understand—I actually have filed at ARE before, just last month, on the basis of a single 1RR violation, and the end result was that the editor was indefinitely blocked. Albeit this was on one of the articles where the talk page notice does specifically ask for immediate reporting at this noticeboard. Is a legal issue like copyvio really less important? (Clairifying edit: less important for the decision to report here; I'm not saying that John2510 should be indef blocked for what I have laid out here.) Particularly given that—I would say predictably based on preceding behavior—this user simply committed copyright infringement on Misplaced Pages's behalf again and only relented, with an edit comment implying a temporary deletion of the full pre-copyvio content is happening for alleged copyright infringement—once again instead of simply doing their own writing—once they had apparently accepted that they'd have to respond here. I'd have happily gone elsewhere, but as I remarked in the initial report CCI seems to be for established repeated copyvio. --‿Ꞅtruthious 𝔹andersnatch ͡ |℡| 18:17, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Result concerning John2510

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• I think warnings on both sides are in order here. For John2510, your edits were indeed a direct copy of the source, and were not marked as a direct quote and properly attributed to their source. There is no "fair use" for plagiarism, and using a direct quote without putting it in quote markings and attributing it is exactly that. Don't do that again. For Struthious Bandersnatch, one hopes that could have been resolved without coming to AE, and if you do in the future file at AE, snark like using "Aware™" is not at all appropriate here. State what you have to say civilly and plainly, and leave out the snark. Other than that, I don't see any need for any action. Seraphimblade 17:12, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

SPECIFICO

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Request concerning SPECIFICO

User who is submitting this request for enforcement

Kolya Butternut (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 10:11, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

User against whom enforcement is requested

SPECIFICO (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

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Sanction or remedy to be enforced

Gender-related controversies

• GamerGate Discretionary Sanctions
• Enough is enough "When the community's extensive and reasonable attempts to control the spread of disruption arising from long-term disputes have failed, the Committee may, as a last resort, be compelled to adopt robust measures to prevent further damage to the encyclopedia, disruption to the editing environment and to the community."
• Recidivism
• Battleground conduct
• Decorum Incivility, harassment, gaming the system

American Politics

• Discretionary Sanctions

Biographies of living persons

• Discretionary Sanctions

Within the area of conflict, editors are expected to edit carefully and constructively, to not disrupt the encyclopedia, and to:

1. adhere to the purposes of Misplaced Pages: WP:5P4 Seek consensus;
2. comply with all applicable policies and guidelines: WP:CIVILITY 2. (d) lying, WP:NOCONSENSUS, WP:DISRUPT;

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

1. 07:47, 16 September 2020 After weeks of disputes over the sentence in Aziz Ansari's BLP about how/whether Ansari apologized in response to a sexual misconduct allegation, SPECIFICO wholesale removed the entire (small) paragraph about Ansari's Netflix stand-up comedy special where he addressed the allegation. No one at Talk:Aziz Ansari, including SPECIFICO, had raised objections to mentioning the stand-up special.
2. 07:53 - 20:38, 16 September 2020 SPECIFICO continued to rewrite the disputed "Allegation of sexual misconduct" section with subtle WP:POV and WP:V violations. In response, I commented on the talk page at 20:49, 16 September 2020: The entire subject of the standup special and statement has just been removed without discussion, seemingly ignoring the weeks long contentious discussion over this material. It's hard to discuss which pieces of this to keep after the entire subject has been removed... SPECIFICO, these edits are disruptive. None of these are minor, they all make subtle POV changes.
3. 12:58, 18 September 2020 at Talk:Aziz Ansari SPECFICO inserts ?? Crickets... (including ellipses) under their comment from 21:31, 16 September 2020, without signature, to make it look like I did not answer their (feigning ignorance) question about what I found disruptive. On 19:46, 17 September 2020, I had replied, You know from our discussions over the past few weeks that I think your edits are POV and do not meet V, and that the onus is on you to discuss your edits before adding them, which you have not done. SPECIFICO conflated the text which was discussed (the "direct apology") with the rewrite they made in order to create a false consensus narrative.
4. 11:50, 7 October 2020 Personal comment about Thucydides411: Too bad that Thuc would take advantage of Awilley's tireless volunteer efforts and attention to continue his crusade for this bit of self-serving Assange propaganda. In this same diff at Awilley's talk page, SPECIFICO lied about what they really said at Talk:Julian Assange. At Talk:Julian Assange at 20:22, 3 October 2020 SPECIFICO said that because they and another editor challenged the text in the lead (about the Swedish sexual assault allegations being a pretext for extradition), Therefore we have no credible claim of WP:CONSENSUS for it, and per WP:ONUS, it falls on others to establish such consensus, which does not now exist, and per the Consensus Required DS, the pretext bit should not have been reinstated in the lead (emphasis mine). At the Talk:Awilley section, Thucydides411 accurately described SPECIFICO claiming that the "Consensus required" restriction prevents restoration of long-standing material after it is removed, and SPECIFICO responded by denying it, likely in order to cause confusion and interfere with policy enforcement. SPECIFICO now claimed to have only said that the "pretext" text never had consensus. (It's irrelevant to the first lie, but Darouet had told SPECIFICO that the text has been here for 18 months narrowly defined, or four years if we accept paraphrase!)
5. 14:56, 7 October 2020 Accuses Thucydides and others of Gaming and Bludgeoning, and makes more personal comments and lies: Thuc pins us to the lowest rungs of Graham's triangle, repeating his POV ever more insistently. First off, in Thuc's failed AE complaint against me for removing his "Consensus Required" DS violation, the panel clearly did not see valid consensus for the longstanding unsourced and UNDUE lead text. Second, WP:CONSENSUS makes clear that there must be some evidence of consensus on the past article talk pages. WP:CONSENSUS does not say that; we have WP:IMPLICITCONSENSUS. The AE case panel, (Dennis Brown, Black Kite, Salvio giuliano, and DGG:, Awilley, and Drmies who bowed out), did not directly evaluate whether the text had consensus, but as Thucydides accurately stated, this was the assumption that all the admins appeared to be operating under. Thucydides411 responded: This level of gaslighting is really unacceptable, and linked to the talk section for proof. (Also note that the AE case shows SPECIFICO mocked the subject of a BLP, behavior that led to their Austrian Economics sanction.)

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions

1. 22 April 2017 by NeilN for what User:JFG described as a pattern of disruptive behaviour which contributes to a poor editing climate.
2. 19 August 2018 by Awilley: SPECIFICO is placed under the Anti-Filibuster, Courtesy in reporting, No personal comments, and Thicker skin sanctions described at User:Awilley/Special discretionary sanctions for a duration of 1 year.
3. 22 April 2014 for behavior including instances where SPECIFICO's edits and talkpage comments on biographical articles have overtly mocked the article subjects. (Austrian Economics).

Diffs of previous relevant AE warnings

1. 20 May 2018 logged warning by TonyBallioni: SPECIFICO is reminded of the behavioral standards expected of Misplaced Pages editors, and warned that not following them in the future will likely lead to sanctions per this thread at AE.
2. 9 April 2020 logged warning by Seraphimblade: SPECIFICO is reminded that talk pages are for discussing article content, not contributors, and warned that continuing to make personal comments about other editors on article talk pages may result in sanctions. (SPECIFICO knows user talk pages are covered by this warning.)
3. 15 November 2017 logged warning by GoldenRing: SPECIFICO is warned to edit collegially and assume good faith.

Diffs of previous relevant ANI warnings

1. 14 September 2014 SPECIFICO is warned that any such anti-community behaviour may lead to a site ban; 3) User:SPECIFICO is also warned that although an IBAN is usually controlled by escalating blocks, the community was already extremely close to implementing a community site-ban, so "pushing the envelope" will not be accepted, and may lead very quickly to a site ban discussion;...

Diffs of previous relevant blocks

1. 1 December 2013 NuclearWarfare blocked SPECIFICO for 48 hours for "Creating an unappealing editing environment".

If discretionary sanctions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts)

• Brought a complaint at WP:AE for WP:ARBAPDS, WP:ARBBLP, and WP:ARBGG on 8 September 2020, see below.

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

SPECIFICO brought an AE request against me which was closed on 13 September 2020 by Vanamonde93 with the statement that if anyone wishes to file a broader AE request looking at the general conduct of either user, they are free to do so. (I do so now.) That case showed that SPECIFICO has used transphobic language as a weapon and lied about it by feigning ignorance despite their extensive experience with the subject. As seen above, after this case they started right back up continuing their manipulative behavior.

SPECIFICIO's behavior has been dishonest from the start; I believe the evidence shows that they began their editing career briefly sockpuppeteering as User:Kevin4762 over a trivial content dispute. SPECIFICO has not become more honest with time; they have only become more insidious.

It's curious that the same ONUS/CONSENSUS dispute with SPECIFICO at Aziz Ansari has also been happening at Julian Assange, one of the only political articles still on my watch list, but I assume that (other than the tactics) it's a coincidence. Although I do note that they claim (in diff 5) that the Consensus Required DS is flawed. Let's not let it be sabotaged; admins have already interpreted this sanction.

This all is the very tip of the iceberg; it takes a lot more than 5 diffs to summarize the long-term behavior of a WP:SEALION. (I just scratched the surface of what I observed in the Ansari dispute alone.) Now I may be accused of stalking or revenge-seeking for performing due diligence. What I would actually like is for a person to be able to make a few edits to a few articles in peace without having to be a litigator, a detective, and a Wikipolicy expert. I don't think that is too much to ask.

Is there such thing as a "net positive" dishonest editor?

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

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Discussion concerning SPECIFICO

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Statement by SPECIFICO

Statement by Levivich

It's not a contentious claim that Assange has made this "pretext defense". The "Swedish-charges-are-a-pretext-for-extradition" argument is like Assange's #1 argument in his own defense. Widely reported in top RS for years. Examples are on the talk page, and were also discussed at the last AE. The text at issue has been in the lead of the article for 18 months at least . Prior to that, a paraphrased version was in the lead for more than 4 years . It's not a BLPVIO; it makes no sense to allow any one editor to remove any content from an article and force everyone else to form consensus to put it back in. Also, how can the defendant's defense be UNDUE? How can the BLP subject's POV not be a significant viewpoint? I have a hard time seeing the UNDUE objection as having any merit, frankly. It's frustrating to edit an article like this; Specifico should have just made a proposal on the talk page to remove the passage. Insisting that it be removed and the onus is on re-inclusion is disruptive, it's not cool. Lev!vich 22:45, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

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Result concerning SPECIFICO

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• This is close to WP:BOOMERANG territory. We're not here to help you "win" your content dispute, and the mining of ancient warnings and disputes suggests that you know you don't have a proper case. I suggest voluntarily withdrawing this and seeking mediation or creating an RfC. Guy (help! - typo?) 21:58, 13 October 2020 (UTC)