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Incompleteness

This page covers simple cases of "Addition" and "Removal", but does not cover any variety of "Change" (e.g., copyediting, changing the meaning, rearranging). Should it? WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:31, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

WhatamIdoing, the thing to remember is that this restriction only comes into effect when someone objects to a change. But it doesn't really matter if it involves plus or minus bytes being added/removed. Even whenever there is zero byte change accompanying an edit, it would still involve new letters being added (replacing older ones) to change words in sentences (or a new image or template replacing an older one, whatever). The focus is on the alteration of longstanding content. That's it. Hope that answers your question. El_C 23:26, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

What's this page for?

Different editors seem to have different views on the purpose of this page. One possible interpretation is that this is a specific set of rules that is more restrictive than average and which applies only when Misplaced Pages:Discretionary sanctions about consensus are being enforced. The other obvious interpretation is that this is meant to explain the normal, everyday approach to consensus-based collaborative editing.  User:El C, what was your intent?  WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:33, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Can't those both be true at the same time? This restriction follows the same dynamic as Consensus but is much strict, similar to 1RR vs 3RR. Kolya Butternut (talk) 20:41, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
"Everyday" and "much stricter than everyday" cannot both be true at the same time. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:15, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
This discretionary sanction can largely be seen as a more strict (binding) version of WP:ONUS. So, while ONUS ought to be observed, one is unlikely to face sanctions for failing to do so, even multiple times (though someone who chronically ignores it, eventually, probably will). El_C 23:26, 28 October 2020 (UTC)