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Thank you for being so vigilant in updating List of unlawfully killed transgender people and for reverting so many names back to the list where they belong. 50.88.244.231 (talk) 20:43, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for being so vigilant in updating List of unlawfully killed transgender people. We really appreciate it. Stay safe. 166.187.54.120 (talk) 17:24, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Oh, dear. I think I cheated a bit, though. Additionally, it seems that I don't think about anything but Stephin Merritt. I hope both work and California itself are exquisite. Apparently, MOCA is running "Night Vision" shindigs every Saturday night with "artmaking, screenings, groundbreaking DJs, live music, spoken word, guided tours, and a cash bar" this summer. With a membership card, one gets free admission for two and free parking. Would you be interested in being mailed MuCC's membership card? (In retrospect, I should have thought to leave it with you earlier.) Adrian Sampson 20:19, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

How's that cheating. Plus I already knew you have Merritt-track mind. Try to stop think what the 70th love song woulda been like and send me that card. Rab V 00:01, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

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162.246.117.233 (talk) 19:24, 29 August 2017 (UTC) johnnie ray had a son ... the more you know. did you know johnnie had a son born in 1956 this boy had 2 fathers, lover of johnnie ray,kept secret for many years also some family members know of his existence, some articles have been written but he has kept himself low key for so many years, at the age of 60 years old many friends family members of johnnies have embraced him, him name was lary, at this point, he lives in las vegas, and is the biological of johnnie ray, alot of the information is not correct. if you would like to contact him about any of the information regarding you editing of these articles, please leave your message here so we may correspond, 162.246.117.233 (talk) 19:24, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Transphobia&oldid=prev&diff=821896182

Hi! Because the term 'person of color' is a US-only term (the term isnt used outside of the US), statements about 'person of color' should be assumed to be US-centric unless the author says otherwise.

Misplaced Pages is about what is verifiable, not necessarily the truth. I don't doubt that trans discrimination of an intersectional nature happens elsewhere in the west, but we need refs that state this explicitly. WhisperToMe (talk) 08:05, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi, I'm confused about your claim about the term since I'm outside the U.S. and see it used here often. But my mainissue was more the phrasing you used seemed to imply something you didn't mean. Rab V (talk) 09:52, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Which country are you located in, if you are comfortable disclosing? I would expect it would be a western country (such as Canada, Western Europe, Australia and New Zealand, or possibly Latin America) and understandably I could see the same paradigm there too. The problem with "person of color" is that the term becomes completely meaningless in other places, such as Japan, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Singapore, China, etc.

The reason why I added "in the United States" is that it's contextually necessary with the source and the phrase. Otherwise the article is slanted towards a United States/Western-worldview; articles on Misplaced Pages need to reflect a global worldview (as per Template:Globalize). Either "in the United States" or "in Western countries" etc. ought to be added to make the article comply with the worldview requirement. We'll need to look at the reference to determine which one is the best to use. Thankfully it's on Google Books so I can check it for context, whether the author is talking about the US or western countries in general.

As a matter of fact one of the templates states: "The examples and perspective in this article may not represent a worldwide view of the subject. (October 2015)"

It would be unfortunate for people to mistakenly think the intro is saying intersectionality-abuse doesn't happen anywhere but the US, but nonetheless I see it as the reader's responsibility for seeing something that isn't there.

WhisperToMe (talk) 12:06, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Based on Page 14 (Alternate page link) from the book, he is talking exclusively about the United States. I did a "search" function for "Canada" and "Europe" in both books and couldn't find them.

If you want to say that this happens outside of the United States, you need to find a reference that supports this explicitly. Verifiability is key.

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Revert of my edit at transmisogyny

Please clarify what you objected to in my edit, specifically where I wasn't neutral. I probably should have clarified the distinctiom between prejudice against femininity vs prejudice against females but what's non-neutral about saying radical feminists believe X because of Y? I appreciate your feesback. :)--Monochrome_Monitor 20:26, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

This conversation should probably be on the article's talk page so other editors can participate as well. Your edit summary was clear you're edit was based on your own reasoning as opposed to reliable sources though. Rab V (talk) 20:34, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Revert of my edit at transfeminsim

Hi, I was wondering what you meant by a Misplaced Pages voice. Could you clarify, so I can rework my edit?

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@Rav V: Okay, that makes so much more sense! Thank you! So if I were to write-

Other Radical feminists, according to Michelle Goldberg, refuse to include trans women on the basis of choice. She argues that trans women have a choice in the way society views them, a choice in their gender identification, and a choice no other woman typically experiences. Goldberg believes cis women do not have that same choice. Rather, she thinks women continue to be seen as inferior in a patriarchal world. By demanding acceptance, Goldberg thinks trans women are further expressing a different form of male entitlement. Kaitlin 121 (talk) 20:36, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

I think that avoids the issue. I'd maybe try to condense the Goldberg's argument a bit too but that's my preference.Rab V (talk) 21:53, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

List of black films of the 2010s

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I think Mouncey was notable under her previous name as she played for Australia at the 2013 World Men's Handball Championship. The article was created in 2013, and was moved from Callum Mouncey at the end of 2017. Jack N. Stock (talk) 01:39, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

My bad. Rab V (talk) 02:45, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

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Hi, I'm the person who added Wynn to Feminist views on transgender topics, which later got moved to TERF. You mentioned in an edit reason that it's not clear whether the author of a certain statement meant she was trans and a feminist or a trans feminist. I intended to mean that she was trans and a feminist; I have no idea whether she is a transfeminist, but the source that she's trans is the same YouTube video that's the source for the claim (or essentially any of her other videos) and the source that she's a feminist on her own page is this. LokiTheLiar (talk) 23:50, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

@LokiTheLiar: Hi there! I was mainly unsure of the usage since the same phrase was linked to transfeminism in the previous sentence. Maybe referring to her as a transgender feminist or trans woman feminist is a good way to avoid other readers being confused too? And the secondary source looks good! Primary sources are fine for describing someone's gender identity. The secondary source is helpful if we are also calling her a feminist or transfeminist. PS I don't mind responding here but my preference is to talk things out on respective article talk pages so others can join. Rab V (talk) 00:11, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

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It was vandalism. I made a mistake of letting someone borrow my phone to make a phone call. They not only made a call and vandalized an article, they messed up my Facebook settings. Thanks for the quick response, though. VictorianMutant 11:16, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Assigned sex

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In transgender people, a distinction is usually made between the assigned sex and gender identity, with "assigned sex" in this context essentially meaning the gender they are "born with". But if you're trans, then the desired gender is your 'true' gender, which would be the gender you are *really* born with. So, the phrase "assigned sex" is arguably meaningless, notwithstanding its widespread use. Cheers, Manifestation (talk) 18:58, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

No I did not. This seems like the kind of thing that should be in the talk page of the article in question instead of on my talk page or those other pages so editors working on the article can see it. Would you be OK with moving this convo there? Either way all phrases are meaningless without their common use. Misplaced Pages is not the place for novel language from individual editors, we should follow what is common in quality RS so we are as clear and legible as possible. Rab V (talk) 20:08, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

So, what you're basically saying is: if an RS says something, then we should say it. But what if it's wrong? Cheers, Manifestation (talk) 18:36, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Please make a section in the appropriate talk page Talk:ICD-11 to have this conversation so all relevant editors can be involved or look up this conversation happened. Rab V (talk) 20:37, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks for adding categories to Mikael Owunna :) Bookgrrl /lookee here 20:23, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Daniel Radcliffe admits he has Racist friends

Twice I've had my additions regarding daniel Radcliffe admission of having racist friends removed. Once with the excuse of not being notable, the other being trivia. It will and should be added.

Radcliffe confession is both part of the public and media domain and that makes it notable and important to add. It's both credible and not trivia supported by renowned media reports/sources Hpdh4 (talk) 00:12, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

The talk page for article in question is where I'd prefer to discuss this so it's easier for other editors to follow. Rab V (talk) 01:48, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

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