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The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk15:29, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

( ) Stravinsky c. 1920 to 1925Stravinsky c. 1920 to 1925
  • ... that in 1944, Russian composer Igor Stravinsky (pictured) engaged with Boston police after his unique arrangement of "The Star-Spangled Banner" was performed with the Boston Symphony Orchestra? Source: Thom, Paul. 2007. The Musician as Interpreter. Studies of the Greater Philadelphia Philosophy Consortium 4. University Park: Pennsylvania State University Press. ISBN 978-0-271-03198-9. p. 50
    • ALT1: ... that composer Igor Stravinsky (pictured) studied under member of The Five Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov for six years? Source: White, Eric Walter (1979). Stravinsky, The Composer and His Works (2nd ed.). University of California Press. ISBN 9780520014350. pp. 25-30
    • ALT2: ... that Igor Stravinsky (pictured) composed a number of works for the self-playing piano the Pleyela? Source: "Composers and the Pianola - Igor Stravinsky". The Pianola Institute.
    • ALT3: ... that composer Igor Stravinsky (pictured) said in 1930 that "I don't believe that anyone venerates Mussolini more than I ... He is the saviour of Italy and – let us hope – Europe"? Source: Sachs, Harvey. 1987. Music in Fascist Italy. New York: W. W. Norton. p. 168
    • ALT4: ... that Igor Stravinsky (pictured) won five Grammy Awards? Source: "Igor Stravinsky". Grammy Awards. Retrieved 2 March 2023.
    • ALT5: ... that composer Igor Stravinsky (pictured) fled Russia after the October Revolution, but returned once in 1962 to conduct in Moscow and Leningrad, meeting Nikita Khrushchev during the visit? Source: Stravinsky, Vera; Craft, Robert (1978). Stravinsky in Pictures and Documents. New York: Simon and Schuster. p. 469
      White, Eric Walter (1979). Stravinsky, The Composer and His Works (2nd ed.). University of California Press. ISBN 9780520014350. pp. 146-148
    • ALT6: ... that composer Igor Stravinsky (pictured) wrote the opera The Rake's Progress with authors W. H. Auden and Chester Kallman? Source: Whiting, Jim (2005). The Life and Times of Igor Stravinsky. Mitchell Lane Publishers. ISBN 978-1-584-15277-4. pp. 39-40
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Australian meat substitution scandal
    • Comment: Some notes on the hooks: ALT0 is my personal favorite; ALT4 would make a good quirky hook (additionally, I do realize it's a rather simple hook, but that's very much intentional since not many famous composers were alive when the Grammy's existed).
      Additionally, I'd like if it could be featured on May 29. OTD is also featuring the same photo of Stravinsky, so I thought it'd be amusing to have the photo for DYK and OTD be the same. If this against a policy, there's no need for a special occasion. Thanks!

Improved to Good Article status by MyCatIsAChonk (talk). Self-nominated at 00:11, 11 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Igor Stravinsky; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: @MyCatIsAChonk: Good article. I don't think that you'll be able to run it on May 29 as per the rules "not more than six weeks in advance". You can ask in the general discussion but I'm not sure if they'll allow it. AGF on offline citations. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:07, 11 March 2023 (UTC)


Fyodor in lead

@Mason.Jones, sorry for reverting your edit with no explanation, I started typing an edit summary and it suddenly published the reversion before I could finish. Is there an MoS standard that says would invalidate using "a well-known bass" in the lead? I think including Fyodor's full name and a description of his notability is a bit much for the lead, but perfectly good for the bio below. "A well-known bass" shortly explains that Stravinsky grew up around music. Thanks for looking out for this article! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 20:57, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

I'd say that a well-known bass violates the Manual of Style recommendation on "transparency" (WP:EASTEREGG). The reader is obliged to "open an Easter egg" in order to discover that (1) it's Fyodor Stravinsky, and Fyodor was (2) VERY famous in Russia in his own right. Calling him out directly by name makes the point to the reader, whereas the description a well-known bass alone is befuddling. Mason.Jones (talk) 21:25, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
To be honest, the whole sentence seems a bit extraneous for the lead. I would think "Born to a musical family..." would suffice, and be more typical with other WP articles. Aza24 (talk) 00:55, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
@Aza24: Yes, that's much better -- and definitely more like other WP bios of eminent composers. Mason.Jones (talk) 01:20, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
Agreed, thank you Aza! Putting that in now MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 22:25, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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