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musulman is also the common spanish term for muslim, as it is with portuguese (not sure of spelling), greek (different alphabet, obviously), and many other languages.
- According to Muslim, it is also close to the Urdu pronunciation --Henrygb 15:42, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Scripts
A certain user is insisting on adding Hindi script. Although this word has it's roots in Persian and Urdu. If we accept his logic, we have to add the scripts of all languages listed in the srticle making it just a list of scripts. Szhaider 00:20, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for your inquiry. The word does not actually have its roots from Persian or Turkish but from the French musulmane. However, it has common usage in South Asia. In fact, if you type the word in your search engine, most of the articles you will get will be India-related. Any transliteration of the word from languages in which the word is commonly used will be accepted in this article. I hope this helps. Thanks, Anupam 00:54, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
- I have reverted your recent edit for the reasons I provided above. I have provided a source for you to verify my facts: Encyclopædia of Religion: Etymology of Musalman. All scripts from languages in which Musalman is standard can be placed on this article. Please discuss here before making any changes. Bahut bahut shukria, Anupam 21:33, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
- You have to understand that this is encyclopaedia not a dictionary where all languages' scripts can be listed just because someone is obsessed with filling articles with his/her favourit scripts. Only real and relevent scripts should be added. Most of Indian muslims prefer Urdu and Arabic scripts over so-called Hindi and Devangari. Therefore, logic of presence of Muslims in India is baseless. The link that you have given doesn't give even a slight hint of Hindi anywhere. In the light of this link, Arabic based script should be considered Persian only as French use Roman script. Szhaider 21:41, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
- Not really. If you watch the news, you must have noticed that Indian Muslims protesting Pope Benedict employed Indic scripts in their protest signs. Urdu is only used in the former four literary centers of Urdu (i.e. Lucknow, Hyderabad, Delhi, Aligarh - none of which lie in present day Pakistan - and Jammu and Kashmir) The rest of the Muslims in India use Indic scripts. Since you properly referenced the article (with my reference), removed your incorrect view that musalman comes from Urdu, and removed the Urdu script, the article can stay as is. Thanks, Anupam 22:19, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the link. I acknowledge when someone does something positive. Szhaider 22:23, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
- Your'e very welcome. Your positive efforts are appreciated as well. Khuda hafiz, Anupam 22:39, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the link. I acknowledge when someone does something positive. Szhaider 22:23, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
- Not really. If you watch the news, you must have noticed that Indian Muslims protesting Pope Benedict employed Indic scripts in their protest signs. Urdu is only used in the former four literary centers of Urdu (i.e. Lucknow, Hyderabad, Delhi, Aligarh - none of which lie in present day Pakistan - and Jammu and Kashmir) The rest of the Muslims in India use Indic scripts. Since you properly referenced the article (with my reference), removed your incorrect view that musalman comes from Urdu, and removed the Urdu script, the article can stay as is. Thanks, Anupam 22:19, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
- You have to understand that this is encyclopaedia not a dictionary where all languages' scripts can be listed just because someone is obsessed with filling articles with his/her favourit scripts. Only real and relevent scripts should be added. Most of Indian muslims prefer Urdu and Arabic scripts over so-called Hindi and Devangari. Therefore, logic of presence of Muslims in India is baseless. The link that you have given doesn't give even a slight hint of Hindi anywhere. In the light of this link, Arabic based script should be considered Persian only as French use Roman script. Szhaider 21:41, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
- I have reverted your recent edit for the reasons I provided above. I have provided a source for you to verify my facts: Encyclopædia of Religion: Etymology of Musalman. All scripts from languages in which Musalman is standard can be placed on this article. Please discuss here before making any changes. Bahut bahut shukria, Anupam 21:33, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Is Musulman really Arabic? If yes, what does it mean? I think one important issue is not mentioned here: Musulman is vowel harmonic, but Muslim is not. That suggests that Musulman is a Central Asian version of Muslim. This is explicitly discussed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/Vowel_harmony#Exceptions —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.65.219.136 (talk) 12:47, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
- Don't think it's an Arabic word as such; it's a Persian word which was derived from an Arabic word... AnonMoos (talk) 14:11, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Merging or Deletion
This article is a word and main article is muslims. This is not a notable entry to wikipedia. --Gregorykarn (talk) 17:09, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- Do not delete, merge only if suitable target can be found -- It's about a word which is very prominent in other languages, and in the English language in past centuries. It would be lost on the main Muslim article. If you can find a better place to merge it to, then that might be OK... AnonMoos (talk) 19:55, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
Request for comment
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Proposal for removing prefixes "Islamic views on xyz" | |
| I have started a request move to remove the prefixes Attached with the Prophets in Islam to there Names as in Islam. Like Islamic views on Abraham → Ibrahim as it becomes difficult to search the topic. Please participate in the discussion at Talk:Page Thanks. --Ibrahim ebi (talk) 19:30, 14 December 2012 (UTC) |
- Not all that sure what that has to do with this page directly. AnonMoos (talk) 00:57, 15 December 2012 (UTC)