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====Henry Clarence Whaite==== | |||
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{{*mp}}... that the English artist ''']''' was one of the central figures in the formation of the ''']''', Wales' first art academy? | |||
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====Chionoecetes bairdi==== | |||
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{{*mp}}... that before a population crash due to ] the annual catch of ] ''']''' was as much as {{convert|332000000|lbs}}? | |||
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====HMS Folke==== | |||
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====Suiyo Seamount==== | |||
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:*Now I know that the source doesn't directly state that the volcano was extinct, but I know from experience that 99.9% of seamounts are dead. Given the low amount of material collected, there was no basis to assume otherwise, and so it was, until the fumarole activity happened. <span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica"><b><font color="#731A25">]</font></b><font color="#B31023">]</font></span> 21:18, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
====Venues of the 1928 Winter Olympics==== | |||
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====Puebla==== | |||
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{{*mp}}... that the Mexican state of ''']''' is home to ], ] and the ] ''(pictured)''? | |||
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:*! Quite impressive. <span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica"><b><font color="#731A25">]</font></b><font color="#B31023">]</font></span> 21:19, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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====Manuel the Armenian==== | |||
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====St Cosmas and St Damian's Church, Stretford==== | |||
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{{*mp}}... that ''']''', ], ''(pictured)'' is ] to ]s of physicians and surgeons? | |||
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====NCAA Season 81 basketball tournaments==== | |||
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{{*mp}}... that ] won the ''']''' without having a member in the all-tournament team? | |||
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<small>Created by ] (]). Self nom at 19:19, 10 October 2010 (UTC)</small> | |||
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====Leo Byrd==== | |||
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{{*mp}}... that after recovering from ] as a 12-year old, ''']''' went on to win a gold medal with the ] at the ]? | |||
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:*Can we change that to "...went on to win..."? I see no need for a conditional type of verb phrase. ] (]) 20:56, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::*Changed. ] (]) 21:28, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:*] Sourcing and length for article and hook have been verified. ] (]) 01:07, 11 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
====Segundo Romance==== | |||
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{{*mp}}... that Mexican singer ] received a ] and a ] for his album ''''']''''' in the United States? | |||
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====UAAP Season 65 men's basketball tournament==== | |||
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{{*mp}}... that during the ''']''', ] prevented a 14–0 sweep of ] en route to their first men's ] championship since 1988? | |||
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====St James' Church, Stirchley==== | |||
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{{*mp}}... that architectural historians have described the ] ] arch of ''']''', ], as "quite incongruously ornate"? | |||
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====UAAP Season 66 men's basketball tournament==== | |||
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{{*mp}}... that, with former ] player ] in attendance, ] and ] figured in a bench-clearing brawl during the ''']'''? | |||
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:*'''ALT1''':... that after replays showed ] men's ] player ]'s three-point ] was released after time expired, the ] ''']''' the ]'s ] against his team? | |||
:*'''ALT2''':... that ] men's ] head coach ] faced his brother Koy, who coached ], during the ''']'''? | |||
:*'''ALT3''':... that the SWAT team was called to restrain unruly fans during the ''']'''? | |||
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:*Alt three pops: I like it. The others don't have as much of an impact. <span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica"><b><font color="#731A25">]</font></b><font color="#B31023">]</font></span> 02:15, 11 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
====John Abel==== | |||
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{{*mp}}... that King's Carpenter ''']''' also designed a wooden tank called the Sow? | |||
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====Santoshi Mata==== | |||
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====Asher Noria==== | |||
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{{*mp}}... that ]-born ''']''' is the only shooter in the world to win the ] event of the International Shooting Junior World Cup for two consecutive years? | |||
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====Alma (name)==== | |||
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====Brenda Lee Eager==== | |||
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{{*mp}}... that ] singer and songwriter ''']''' has written and performed in a ] show based on her own life story? | |||
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====British Motocross Championship==== | |||
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====Maurice Neligan==== | |||
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:*] Length and sourcing for article and hook have been verified. ] (]) 15:30, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
====MV Wotan==== | |||
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====Mrs. Tittlemouse (character)==== | |||
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====Siege of Privas==== | |||
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====Marshall Flaum, Let My People Go: The Story of Israel==== | |||
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====Sakis Rouvas Collection==== | |||
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:*Wikilinked hook. I suggest changing "artist" to "singer" as it is not obvious that he isn't a painter in this context. ] (]) 01:52, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
====List of Fab 40 number-one singles==== | |||
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===Articles created/expanded on October 9=== | |||
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====The Temptation of Barbizon==== | |||
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====Ike Robin==== | |||
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====St John the Baptist Church, Inglesham==== | |||
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====2010 Nobel Peace Prize==== | |||
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:*Note that this article has also been considered for ]. ] (]) 15:31, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::*] ] say: "Articles that have appeared on the main page's In the News section are not eligible." This hit the main page and is still there. ] ] 17:00, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::*] did appear on ITN. ] did not. ] (]) 18:40, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::*Yes, I can confirm that Shubinator is correct - I was the one who posted the article ] on ITN :) However I suggest we wait until the related item is scrolled off ITN, which will be very soon. --] (]) 21:57, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
====Alexander Fulton (Louisiana)==== | |||
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====Jeff Landry==== | |||
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====Qmunity==== | |||
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====Double-O Ranch Historic District==== | |||
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====Prince Abbas Hilmi==== | |||
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====Ike Robin==== | |||
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====Jalavihar==== | |||
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====George Ambo==== | |||
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====Podvugleš Tunnel==== | |||
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====1995–96 Michigan Wolverines men's ice hockey team, 1996–97 Michigan Wolverines men's ice hockey team, 1997–98 Michigan Wolverines men's ice hockey team==== | |||
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====Adam of Kilconquhar==== | |||
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====St Mary's Church, Shrewsbury==== | |||
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====Tenczyn Castle==== | |||
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====Figaro (genus), Australian sawtail catshark, northern sawtail catshark==== | |||
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====BSA B50==== | |||
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====New Academy (Moscopole)==== | |||
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::]*Please find another hook. It sounds like you are placing Greek cultural borders beyond where they were with these hooks. The source that the Academy was a center of Greek culture in a Vlach-Albanian settlement, is a tendentious Greek historian, Mikropulos, several times contested by me and other neutral editors. That was an Aromanian-Albanian settlement where the only Greek thing was the language of the school, given that it was the language of the Eastern Orthodox church. Catholic churches are not "centers of Latinism, or Roman Empire", although medioeval latin has always been spoken in them. How about: | |||
:::*... '''ALT1''' that the ''']''', an 18th-century higher learning institute in ], ], was nicknamed "the worthiest jewel of the city"? --<span style="font-family: Gothic;">] <sup>(])</sup></span> 00:12, 11 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
====Grandview Apostolic Church==== | |||
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====St Bartholomew's Church, Richard's Castle==== | |||
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:*<!--Make first comment here-->] - ready. ] (]) 22:58, 9 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
====Lake Sausacocha==== | |||
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====Sack of Amorium==== | |||
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:*] Looking good. Great article. (Strictly speaking, the placement of the footnote isn't making it entirely clear whether the hook is completely covered by the ref, but I trust the author's good judgment in that.) Image would be nice, but I'm not sure it will work well on the main page at this small size. ] ] 15:45, 9 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*Nifty, but ] applies, yes? Perhaps "has been suggested". ] (]) 02:44, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:*I agree, so a bit of reformulation then:] (]) 07:35, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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::'''PANDA ALT1'''... that fetuses of the endangered ] (pictured) have been artificially grown in the womb of cats, a form of ''']''' (pregnancy between species)? | |||
::The explanation of the term may be integrated as <nowiki>]</nowiki> or left out if it makes the entry too long. ] (]) 07:35, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::: '''ALT3''': ... that fetuses of the endangered ] (pictured) have been ] in the womb of cats? --] <sup> ] </sup> 15:54, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::With the link to interspecific pregnancy in '''bold''', it seems all fine to me. ] (]) 05:55, 11 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
====Washington Athletic Club==== | |||
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:* ] The article is good but it needs small expansion. ] (]) 16:21, 9 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::*Is length a problem right now? I wasn't sure if refs are included in calculating the 5X expansion.]] 16:56, 9 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::* 677 characters in prose before expansion, 2820 after expansion (5 x 677 = 3385). ] (]) 21:44, 9 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*]<small>(checked using ])</small> Length, history, reference good. Added "in Nigeria" to the hook. ] (]) 17:57, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
====Sir John Jarvis, 1st Baronet==== | |||
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====Sir Edgar Horne, 1st Baronet==== | |||
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:*]<small>(checked using ])</small> Length, history good; an ad from the last page of a newspaper isn't the best source, but I'll let it pass. ] (]) 17:49, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
====Robert L. Bobbitt==== | |||
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:*] Maybe I'm blind, but I can't find the reference in the source. Are you referring to "the transition from Neosuchia to Eusuchia involved the sagittal segmentation of the paravertebral shield (Bernissartia to Susisuchus)"? Because that just describes a later modification to the shield, which was already in species before Susisuchus. Feel free to point me to a sentence that I missed. ] (]) 17:35, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::*The shield is called a tetraserial paravertebral shield, which is unique to ''Susisuchus'' and eusuchians. "Tetraserial paravertebral shield" is a very technical term, so I thought that saying "a shield... similar to those of living crocodilians" would show that ''Susisuchus'' has a special type of shield different from those of earlier species. Hopefully this is better: | |||
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====2010–11 Princeton Tigers men's basketball team==== | |||
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:* ] Good to go. ] (]) 16:23, 9 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
====Javorova Kosa Tunnel==== | |||
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:*]<small>(checked using ])</small> Length, history good; foreign language reference accepted in good faith after a glance at Google Translate. ] (]) 18:49, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*]<small>(checked using ])</small> Length, history, reference good. ] (]) 18:46, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
====About the Mystery of the Letters==== | |||
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:* Some more ] fun (following up on that DYK of the other day). Translated from de-wiki. ] ] 19:17, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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====James Kennedy Patterson==== | |||
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:* ] Looks good. ] (]) 21:46, 9 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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====Bobby Godsell==== | |||
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:*] Length meets minimums for article and maximum for hook, but the source of the hook is the club itself. Can an independent reliable and verifiable source be added to support the hook? Also, should we use "organizations" vs. "organisations" given that this is an American club. ] (]) 12:35, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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::*I'd like to suggest the following ALT. I added an inline ref immediately after the "capital" hook fact. ] <font color="blue">•</font> ] 20:05, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::*'''ALT1''': ... that ''']''', located near ''']''' ''(pictured)'', was the capital of ] before the founding of ]? | |||
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====Sulla's civil wars==== | |||
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:Fixed. ] 02:35, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Fixed. Something was wrong with the apostrophe. ] ] 02:35, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::<Insert obligatory cliche about great minds and thinking here.> ] 02:36, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::Don't be so hard on yourself Ucucha, haha. I haven't reviewed for DYK acceptability, but I think the original hook is the more interesting one... the ALT seemed to happen a lot in those days... ] ] 02:39, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::The article's bare URL references should be formatted. Also, I'd prefer a more recent and more scholarly ref for the hook fact. ] 02:45, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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====Kenneth North==== | |||
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:*] ref must follow hook, suggest tweak hook with length of time as pow.<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 00:02, 11 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*]<small>(checked using ])</small> Length, history good; offline reference accepted in good faith. Added "in Alaska" to the hook. ] (]) 19:13, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
====Marguerite Bériza, Orville Harrold==== | |||
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:*]<small>(checked using ])</small> Length, history, reference good. Added expansion credit for Ghmyrtle. ] (]) 19:22, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
====Sean McCorkle==== | |||
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:*'''ALT1''':*... that ] ''']''' has been ]d "The Hater", "The Big Angry", "Big Hungry" and "The Alpha Male", and claims he changes his nickname "to keep it interesting"? ] (]) 20:57, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::I'm happy with the ALT hook! Thanks <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #73C2FB">]</SPAN> <FONT SIZE="1">]</FONT> 21:12, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
====Millennium Bailey's Hotel and James Bailey (UK politician)==== | |||
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:*<!--Make first comment here-->] Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. Cool picture. Good to go. ] (]) 00:08, 11 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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====140th Year Anniversary Celebration of the Emancipation Proclamation==== | |||
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:*<!--Make first comment here-->] Date, length OK. The bare URLs need to be formatted per ]. Also, the article has a lot of interesting things to say other than the anniversary happened. How about: | |||
:*'''ALT1''':<s> ... that for the ''']''', ] ] organized volunteers to clean, paint, and restore ] at the ] in ]?</s> | |||
:*'''ALT2''': ... that the ] was ceremoniously read on the ''']''' under the ] where ] taught children of former slaves in 1861? | |||
:*'''ALT3''':<s> ... that during the ''']''' on January 1, 2003, living ]s portrayed ] in ]?</s> | |||
:*] (]) 00:04, 11 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::I have fixed up the references (removed bare URLs, added details, etc). | |||
::I like all the suggested alts; I asked a few people, and we all preferred the 2nd one, re. the oak tree. I think that is the best choice. Thanks, <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">]]</span></small> 00:52, 11 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::] Date, length, hook ref all verified. ALT2 good to go. ] (]) 09:23, 11 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*] Date and length look good. AGF for the ref. ~<span style="border:2px solid blue;background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 01:18, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::*I'm not using any non-English or offline sources, so why is it AGF and not just an actual check of the ref itself? <font color="silver">]</font><font color="blue">]</font><sup>]</sup> 01:24, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::*Also, ] are you sure the hook fact is actually in the article right now? Console games from ''all consoles''? --] (]) 01:30, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::*Good point, I probably won't be able to back up the "all" part. How about this... | |||
:::::*'''(Alt 1)''' ... that ] uses a type of ] called ''']''' that allows users to play ] from different consoles on their computer? <font color="silver">]</font><font color="blue">]</font><sup>]</sup> 01:34, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::::*] That's better. And sorry about the AGF, I forgot it only applied to offline and foreign language sources. ~<span style="border:2px solid blue;background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 01:37, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::::::] The article doesn't mention anywhere, that the games currently offered are (exclusively or otherwise) console games; it also doesn't mention as a fact, that they are games from ''different consoles'', as opposed to one particular console. As far as I can see, the hook fact is not currently stated within the article. --] (]) 01:54, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::::::Uh, it directly states "Assassin's Creed" and "Mass Effect 2", which are from different consoles. If you need me to state it directly in the article, I will, since it is directly stated in most of the references. <font color="silver">]</font><font color="blue">]</font><sup>]</sup> 04:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::Fair enough, but yes I think it should be stated explicitly in the article if it is used in the hook. --] (]) 09:19, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:'''ALT2''' ... that ''']''' developments allow players to access their saved games at multiple locations, using the same game data on platforms ranging from desktop computers to ]? | |||
:(this is my attempt at a hook for this without a company name or brand name in it) --] (]) 02:50, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::I would prefer to not use this Alt, since it isn't as interesting as the one I gave. This makes it sound kind of boring and wordy. <font color="silver">]</font><font color="blue">]</font><sup>]</sup> 04:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::Depends what the reader finds interesting - the existing hook, at first reading, makes it sound rather like ]. (I was going to add the word "modern" somewhere to avoid that potential confusion - since some thin client services already offer emulated games from older consoles, and many readers would be most familiar with that.) But whatever hook you prefer is fine, so long as the hook fact is actually stated in the article. --] (]) 09:19, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::Actually, after thinking about it, i'm fine with your alt. It does convey more about what cloud gaming does. <font color="silver">]</font><font color="blue">]</font><sup>]</sup> 18:40, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::::I've trimmed my suggested ALT2 to make it a bit less wordy. It's quite difficult to get across the potential this concept has, without building a huge unwieldy hook. --] (]) 02:15, 9 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*<s>] Date and length look good. AGF for the ref. ~<span style="border:2px solid blue;background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 01:21, 8 October 2010 (UTC)</s> | |||
::*] There isn't a citation after the fact in the lead. ~<span style="border:2px solid blue;background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 01:44, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*] Date and length of expansion looks good. AGF for the ref. ~<span style="border:2px solid blue;background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 01:23, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::*{{ec}} ] Reevaluated as AGF only applies to offline and foreign sources. ~<span style="border:2px solid blue;background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 01:48, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*] Date and length of expansion looks good. AGF for the ref. ~<span style="border:2px solid blue;background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 01:25, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*added "the" ] (]) 21:54, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::*] The article length is 2200 characters, but most of that is from the quote, which I believe we have to exclude when considering length. ] (]) 23:27, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::*Yes, , since it's a block quote. <font color="silver">]</font><font color="blue">]</font><sup>]</sup> 23:53, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::* Why don't you try to the website/board as a source instead of quoting it? This way, the text will be counted for the length requirement. Be mindful of ] though :) <span style="text-align: center; clear: both; font-family:Georgia, serif; font-size: 10pt; font-variant: small-caps; font-style: normal;"> — ] ] —</span> 07:38, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::* Fix and little expanded. :) Also, source is in the public domain, so ] cannot be used here. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">]<sup>]</sup></span> 10:01, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::::* The length is good now. I think it needs a little copy-editing, though; I'd offer to do this but it might be better if someone more familiar with the bridge and its story (or at least the source language) could do so... I don't want to unwittingly introduce errors due to my unfamiliarity with the topic. ] (]) 15:50, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::::* Indeed, the length is good, but there's definitely close paraphrasing and WhiteWriter is yet to provide evidence as to why the board/website would be public domain. If that's cleared up or if the section is rewritten, it would be good to go, but for now it's too close to the original text and it seems to be copyrighted. <span style="text-align: center; clear: both; font-family:Georgia, serif; font-size: 10pt; font-variant: small-caps; font-style: normal;"> — ] ] —</span> 11:16, 9 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::::::*OK, doesn't matter, i cannot find source that it is in public domain, so i rewrite it. Hope now it is good. Third luck! :) --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">]<sup>]</sup></span> 12:52, 9 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::::::* ] Well, comparing it to the original translated quote that you initially used, I think it's far enough from the original to pass. Length, date and hook verified. <span style="text-align: center; clear: both; font-family:Georgia, serif; font-size: 10pt; font-variant: small-caps; font-style: normal;"> — ] ] —</span> 14:01, 9 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*] Date and length good for all of them. ~<span style="border:2px solid blue;background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 01:29, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::*] Reevaluated as AGF only applies to offline and foreign language sources. ~<span style="border:2px solid blue;background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 01:50, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*] Only 1200 characters. DYK requires a minimum of 1500 characters of prose. ~<span style="border:2px solid blue;background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 01:54, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::My apologies: I put 'created' when I actually expanded it. Does the 1,500 still apply? ] (]) 16:13, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::Yes, all articles on DYK have to have a minimum of 1500 characters of prose. ~<span style="border:2px solid blue;background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 22:49, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*] Length and sourcing for article are ok, but there needs to be an explicit source added to the statement in the article that corresponds to the hook. ] (]) 12:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*I can't find the fact in the source. ] (]) 19:16, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::It is clearly stated under the first paragraph of the 'History' tab on the ref Cheney Racing web site. (I will put a seperate ref if you like but on my iPhone at the moment) Thanks ] (]) 20:47, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::]<small>(checked using ])</small> Ok. I'm a little uncomfortable with the fact being sourced to the company itself, but ah well. ] (]) 20:53, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*<!--Make first comment here-->] A minimum of ] is required for DYK, it's currently at 792 characters. Hook is fine, it's still within 5 days of creation so if it can be expanded tomorrow (11th) at the latest it should be eligible. ] <sup>]</sup> 11:39, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::*I like a deadline lol, I'll work on this tomorrow :-) ] (]) 19:32, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*''Comment'': Better, ... that two ''']s''' were... -- ] (]) 18:52, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::Done! ] (]) 16:14, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::Sorry to nitpick, but the article has 1455 characters of prose; DYK requires at least 1500. Add a few sentences and you'll be fine. ] (]) 19:44, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::::Should now be 2000+. ] (]) 20:25, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*<!--Make first comment here-->] Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. ] (]) 23:47, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*] Very good expansion, but a lot of Russian-language sources. ] (]) 16:22, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:*:I know .. it is a river in the midst of Russian nowhere. '''ALT1''' ... that 23 ships crashed at one cliff on the ''']''' ''(another cliff pictured)'' in the spring of 1877? This hook is in history and is backed by 2 Russian books. ] (]) 04:46, 9 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*] Article has not been 5x expanded. ~<span style="border:2px solid blue;background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 01:59, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::I think I might be confused about the rules here, but as far as I was aware the article had gone from 375 characters to 1989 characters in my revision, which is a 5x expansion no? ]<sup>]</sup> 10:12, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::The DYK check tool says it has 1880 characters of prose. It needs 5 more characters to reach a 5x expansion. ~<span style="border:2px solid blue;background:beige;font-family:Mistral">''']]]'''</span> 15:52, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Oh! Well my apologies then. I've corrected that oversight. ]<sup>]</sup> 16:33, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*] Length and sourcing for article and hook have been verified. I added a source available online through Google Books to the sentence in the lead that best matches the DYK hook. ] (]) 12:54, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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::I think so. There is about 1000 species of Streptaxidae and all of them are known or are thought to be carnivorous. As far as I know, this species is the only one herbivorous in this family. --] (]) 17:13, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::: ] Ok, sounds good and verifiable, based on sources.--] <small>]</small> 01:39, 11 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*] All good. —<span style="font-family:Tahoma;">''']</span> • <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-variant:small-caps;">] • 8:52pm •'''</span> 09:52, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::'''ALT1''' *... that at the end of the first game of the ''']''', a ] assistant team manager ran onto the court and hit opposing player ] ''(pictured)'' in the back of the head? ] (]) 16:23, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*] Hook doesn't make much sense. —<span style="font-family:Tahoma;">''']</span> • <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-variant:small-caps;">] • 8:54pm •'''</span> 09:54, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::*I'm afraid I'm going to need a little more detail than that if I'm to be able to improve it. The fairy shrimp ''Branchinecta brushi'' is a crustacean. It lives at 5,930 m in the Chilean Andes. No other crustacean lives higher. Thus, the fairy shrimp ''Branchinecta brushi'' is the higest crustacean in the world, living at 5,930 m (19,460 ft) in the Chilean Andes. I'm open to suggestions for improvement, but those are the facts that should be reported. --] (]) 09:59, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::*How about "...living at ''an altitude of'' 5,930..." -- ] (]) 10:11, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::* (edit conflict) How about; | |||
:::'''ALT2''' ... that the ] ''''']''''' lives at 5,930 m (19,460 ft) in the ]an ], higher than any other ] in the world? | |||
:::* And, incidentally, could the height be rounded to either 6,000m (and the ft equivalent) or 20,000ft (and the m equivalent) to make it slightly easier to read? I assume it's that precise because it lives in a specific lake or something that ''is'' at that specific height, but then even the lake has depth so a little rounding might not hurt. Just a thought, I don't know how these things are normally expressed. | |||
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::::* Also, is the fact accurate, since the article states that another crustacean Branchinecta valchetana lives at the same height? Is Branchinecta valchetana also a shrimp, and if not, can we just replace the word "crustacean" with "shrimp"? Or is that not really an accurate enough term? --] (]) 10:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::::*I'd be happy with the rounding, provided it's noted (e.g. "at around 6,000 m..."), since the mountain does not actually reach 6,000 m (let alone 20,000 ft, another 96 m higher). ''Boeckella palustris'' (not ''Branchinecta valchetana'') does live in the same place, so one could argue that ''Br. brushi'' is '''joint''' highest, but I think that's probably nitpicking. I would argue that ''Br. brushi'' is the highest, and so is ''Bo. palustris''. Neither, incidentally, is a ], and in any case, that would be a less remarkable fact than being the superlative among a much bigger group. ALT2 looks fine to me, as does John of Reading's suggestion. --] (]) 12:03, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::::*] Alt is fine :) —<span style="font-family:Tahoma;">''']</span> • <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-variant:small-caps;">] • 11:14am •'''</span> 00:14, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*] All good. —<span style="font-family:Tahoma;">''']</span> • <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-variant:small-caps;">] • 9:07pm •'''</span> 10:07, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*] No problems. —<span style="font-family:Tahoma;">''']</span> • <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-variant:small-caps;">] • 9:05pm •'''</span> 10:05, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*'''Alt2''':... that after winning the ] with ], ''']''' transferred to ] because it offered a dental school? ] (]) 03:50, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:**] All hooks backed up with appropriate references. —<span style="font-family:Tahoma;">''']</span> • <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-variant:small-caps;">] • 9:03pm •'''</span> 10:03, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Go with the original or with ALT2. Nothing particularly interesting about ALT1. ] (]) 16:27, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*<!--Make first comment here-->I wonder if ] of the century old statue is really a fairuse pic. Do U.S. copyright laws cover public art from that long ago? If not, maybe we can use this on MainPage. --] (]) 03:58, 11 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:*:See comment from Elcobbola regarding copyright length and statues. In short - it's life of the sculptor + 70. ] (]) 04:04, 11 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::: Thanks, Raul. I can't establish the sculptor's year of death, so I guess we don't know enough to safely use this pic on MainPage. Never mind. --] (]) 05:35, 11 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*Please note that the term "Jewess" is often considered to be outdated usage. See ]. --] ] 02:33, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Thank you! It is really interesting to know. Being Jewish myself, I would have never thought the word "Jewess" could be offensive. Of course I came from a different country. I've changed the hook.--] (]) 04:54, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::*] Date, length, hook ref verified. Tweaked hook and it's good to go. ] (]) 14:05, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:] Good subject area :-) but article needs to be 1500 characters to qualify for DYK. Let me know if you need help. ] (]) 18:16, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Concur, I have just left a message for the nominator. ] (]) 18:23, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*<!--Make first comment here-->] 5x expansion verified. Date, length, hook ref verified. I like the extra factoid on ALT1. ALT1 good to go. ] (]) 11:25, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:* ] 5x expansion, length and hook verified, but I had to move the article to the 6 October section. Remember that it's supposed to go under the date when the expansion started or the article was created, not under the date of nomination :) <span style="text-align: center; clear: both; font-family:Georgia, serif; font-size: 10pt; font-variant: small-caps; font-style: normal;"> — ] ] —</span> 10:42, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*] Length and sourcing for article and hook have been confirmed. ] (]) 15:44, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*The New Jersey hook was nominated by ] (]) at 21:50, 7 October 2010 (UTC) under the October 7 heading, but the article was created on October 6. I moved it here as an ALT. (I like mine better, but I may not be completely impartial in the matter.) ] <font color="blue">•</font> ] 23:26, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::*The original hook shouldn't be changed to an alt, so I've converted yours into the alt. ] (]) 02:55, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::I agree that the original shouldn't be changed to an ALT, and that's why I did it the way I did, since mine ''was'' the original, posted an hour before the other one. But I don't think it really matters, so I just fixed the formatting but didn't change the order again. ] <font color="blue">•</font> ] 06:59, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::Oh. I'm very sorry; RFD asked me to nominate it for DYK, so I assumed that it hadn't already been nominated. ] (]) 13:17, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::::No problem. I was also asked by RFD to nominate it. Thanks for switching the hooks back. @Alansohn: When I first saw that it was an article about a New Jersey politician, I, too, was surprised to see that it was written by someone other than you! ] <font color="blue">•</font> ] 18:32, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:*] Length and sourcing for the article and both hooks have been verified. When Volk died I put a copy of the newspaper on my "to do eventually" pile, assuming that no one would have any interest in someone who was mayor of the town next door to mine, and I'm still astonished that any other editor would have gotten to creating an article for Volk before I did. This article is a great example of collaborative work to create a very thorough article. ] (]) 12:58, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*] All good. —<span style="font-family:Tahoma;">''']</span> • <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-variant:small-caps;">] • 9:10pm •'''</span> 10:10, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::*The hook, at 221 characters, is too long. ] <font color="blue">•</font> ] 19:40, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::Ah, quite right, sorry; try this, below, which is just under 200, including the '(pictured)'. <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">]]</span></small> 19:54, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*<!--Make first comment here-->] 5x expansion verified. Date, length OK. Offline hook refs AGF. However, the Sources section needs to be filled out better, citing publisher, date, isbn, etc. What do you think about this addition to the first hook: | |||
:*'''ALT2''': that ] ] ] ''']''' lost the 1962 governor's race to ] and the 1964 ] ] to ]? ] (]) 14:34, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:I can get the ISBN information later, maybe Monday.] (]) 14:54, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Publishing info is usually available on Amazon.com. I filled out the first and second references, but don't know which volume you used for the Texas Almanac. Is it one of ? ] (]) 15:24, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:* ] Image has no alt-text or rollover text? May seem like nitpicking, but it's important. ] (]) 20:38, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::* Oops, you got me on that one, I guess I chose the wrong template, because I did not mean to have a caption or something. I really do not know what an alt-text or rollover text is. Can you help me? If it is a caption, it would be "] exhibited at the ].-] (]) 02:05, 8 October 2010 (UTC){{-}} | |||
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====Gracie Cole==== | |||
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:*'''ALT2''':<s>... that trumpeter ''']''', as lead soloist of ]'s All-Girl Orchestra, performed in a live radio broadcast from Hamburg following the ] in 1945?</s> | |||
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:*<!--Make first comment here-->] Date, length, hook refs OK and AGF. The first and ALT1 hooks both work for me. Tweaked ALT1. Good to go. ] (]) 00:19, 11 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
====Zeppelin L.19 (LZ 54)==== | |||
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:*Comment: Surely that should be "because ''the crew of'' a British fishing boat" -- ] (]) 10:06, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:*Comment: Seems reasonable. Inserted "''the crew of''". -- ] (]) 12:46, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:*] Length and sourcing for article and hook have been verified. ] (]) 13:10, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
====Hero's Medal, Meritorious Service Medal (China)==== | |||
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:* ] Both verified, AGF on the offline source. Google translate seemed to corroborate the hook but I am AGF on that as well. --] <small>]</small> 03:43, 9 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
====Danni Lowinski==== | |||
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:*] Length and sourcing for article and hook have been verified, as long as my understanding of the German source is accurate. All three hooks basically say the same thing, though I'd lean to the original hook or ALT1. ] (]) 13:06, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::*Yeah, I know about the hooks. I hoped that someone might have a better suggestion how to phrase that =) Regards ''']]''' 19:51, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
====Andy Albeck==== | |||
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:*<!--Make first comment here-->] - ready. ] (]) 00:52, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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====Arthur Holch==== | |||
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:*'''ALT1''' "... that lacking any means to exit the structure in the face of enemy fire, the garrison of a ''']''' ''(pictured)'' could face a fight to the death?" ] (]) 13:44, 6 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::*I was trying too hard to be pithy - ALT1 is better. ] (]) 16:46, 6 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::*] I have problems with this hook; it implies the design favoured a fight to the death, where actually it almost necessitated such a fight. In my opinion misleading. The article itself checks out fine for all criteria, maybe try another hook? | |||
::::I think the ALT1 hook is OK. The occupants might have the option to surrender instead of fighting to the death, or they might succeed in forcing their opponents to withdraw and regroup, rather than killing them. I think "could" covers the likelihood sufficiently, especially since it's hypothetical anyway. Incidentally, I wonder if "the occupants" might read better than "the garrison", since the thing is only a few feet wide. --] (]) 01:20, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::I agree that ALT1's use of the word "could" combined with the explanation in the hook's first clause makes its sufficiently clear what the circumstances might have been. ] (]) 13:21, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::::] the main hook is no good, as anyone can face a fight to the death. The alt1 is wrong, there is a means to exit, it's just not very safe during combat. Alt1 is misleading. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 23:48, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:* ] Ending of first and last sections missing citations and there are two unformatted references. The hook, in the lead, doesn't have a citation after it as well. Also, what is up with that funk definition in the lead? I am not too familiar in this area and am curious.--] <small>]</small> 10:34, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:I've fixed the references; the new user didn't really know about the need to repeat the ref, when the same one covered the remainder of the section. The 'funk' was a Spanish dic def, which I managed to get translated by a Spanish-speaker. So, hopefully, I have addressed the issues; please re-check. Thanks a lot, <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">]]</span></small> 07:31, 9 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:* ] Ok, looks better. I had to make a few more edits but it is verified now. Thanks for the translation.--] <small>]</small> 08:56, 9 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::Great, thanks very much! <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">]]</span></small> 05:02, 11 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*] Dates and lengths both good. AGF of offline sourcing. --'']'' <sup>]</sup> 21:37, 6 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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====Jack Parkinson (basketball)==== | |||
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:*'''Alt1''':... that ''']''' passed up a ] contract with the ] to play for ] and the ]? | |||
:*'''Alt2''':... that ] basketball star ''']''' delayed attending his ] year so he could fight in the ] for 11 months? ] (]) 03:23, 6 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:] I think we should go with ALT1 the initial hook seems to imply that he one the tourneys by himself which of course he didn't since basketball is a team sport, but we can't assume that all readers no this. ALT2 is certainly notable, but not all that unusual given the time period. Turning down a pro contract to play college ball is notable. ] (]) 01:00, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
====Cement lorry rammed into Leinster House==== | |||
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:*] Orphan tag I don't care about, but you need to add categories. Would be good to beef up about notability otherwise this comes across as a minor crime. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 15:04, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
==Older nominations== | |||
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====World's littlest skyscraper==== | |||
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:*<!--Make first comment here--> ] Date, length, hook refs verified. Added conversions. Cute article. Good to go. ] (]) 21:32, 9 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*<!--Make first comment here-->] Date, length OK. Would you consider a more interesting hook, like: | |||
:*'''ALT2''': ... that ''']''' ''(pictured)'' and its ] in ], ], were constructed in the 13th century of ] ]? ] (]) 22:01, 9 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Okay. ] (])<sup><small>]</small></sup> 23:28, 9 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::*] ALT2 verified and good to go. ] (]) 09:43, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::*Sorry to put a spanner in the works, but is that really an interesting hook? Also, the rectory wasn't built in the 13th century.--]] 13:30, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*The has 50 a day; another document on the organization's website has 45 a day, I believe. I don't think that goes to credibility, but please feel free to browse around and check. I personally don't care which number we pull--I'm much more interested in pulling those kids out of the water. :( ] (]) 17:45, 6 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*<!--Make first comment here-->] Date, length OK, but the hook inaccurately quotes the source. How about this: | |||
:*'''ALT1''': ... that in 1883, after ''']''' was persuaded to donate 600 acres of land for a new townsite in ], the town was called Russ Town — today the city of ] and the ]? ] (]) 22:28, 9 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Fine, but is this revised hook too long? ] (]) 23:33, 9 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::*] It's under 200 char. ALT1 verified and good to go. ] (]) 09:45, 10 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:* ] Length, date and hook reference check up. <span style="text-align: center; clear: both; font-family:Georgia, serif; font-size: 10pt; font-variant: small-caps; font-style: normal;"> — ] ] —</span> 07:04, 6 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*] It has now been expanded. Date, length and hook reference all fine and dandy. <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">]]</span></small> 06:45, 6 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
====Molve gas project==== | |||
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:*] Article is only 1,186 characters long, but the DYK minimum is 1,500 characters. ] (]) 02:21, 6 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::*I'm sorry, I thought it was long enough but I didn't check the character count before submitting. I'll try to expand the article in the next couple of days so please put the nomination on hold until then. ] 21:59, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*''Comment'': This building is one of the striking architectural gems of ]. It's the one building that has received the most media coverage in New Zealand following the 4 September earthquake. Christchurch City Council decided yesterday that it is to be demolished. I propose that it be put on the front page the day demolition starts and have worded the hook accordingly. As yet, a date hasn't been set. At a guess, demolition might start within a week, i.e. 14 October 2010. If this proposal is acceptable, I'll attach the date to this item once it's known. As yet, I haven't got a current photo of the building, but it is quite striking and would certainly lend itself for the hook with the picture. to have a look at some current photos. Please note that obviously, the hook is as yet not cited, as the start date for the demolition hasn't been set yet. So please review the remaining DYK requirements first. | |||
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::*] Date and length are fine, and sources check out for everything but the (as yet unknown) demolition date. Recent photos have been added to the article, and I've taken the liberty of moving the lead photo into the hook above. --] (]) 07:06, 11 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*] Date, hook, and length verified. Additional offline refs accepted in good faith.] (]) 11:05, 6 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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====Dragan Tesanovic==== | |||
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===For 31 October, Hallowe'en === | |||
*] The ''']''' has started early. My interpretation of whats happening is ... 1. Move your hook to the bottom of the page (ie here) 2. You may get some more macabre, funny etc suggestions for a hook and it should get DYKtick'ed. 3. Then after its been there about 24 hours or so it gets moved off to the dedicated page. 4. Then about three or four days before Oct 31 we sort out the 40 or so hooks into "8"s (so they are ready to load on the 36 hours or so that is Halloween internationally). 5. We do the awards and 6 .... and please help with all of this. It only works if we all do a bit ] (]) 08:22, 20 September 2010 (UTC) | |||
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::'''ALT1:''' ... that ''']''', the "] of Halloween", said it sold a scary 4 million ]s in the ] in 1990? | |||
- Hook corrected to show where costumes were sold. - ] (]) 19:12, 30 September 2010 (UTC) | |||
:*"Halston" means nothing here ... you also have "High Priest of Halloween" ... I'd tic that? oops OK! ] (]) 07:34, 22 September 2010 (UTC) | |||
::*Halston means a lot in the fashion world. I've wikilinked it. (Don't forget to sign your post!) - ] (]) 01:44, 22 September 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::*Only in places where there's a JC Penney. Trust me, that subclause just doesn't work outside the US, and to be honest it's redundant, it could just be struck out entirely. Or as Victuallers says, the "high priest" version is a ready-made alternative that needs no knowledge of US culture, and thus is a better hook. WTGR Tim, you really need to think a bit more globally - 50% of en.wiki users are outside the US, and that proportion is growing. ] (]) 08:54, 22 September 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::*It doesn't appear, Le Deluge, that you know who Halston was. He was internationally famous (he designed Jacqueline Kennedy's iconic pillbox hat outfit, which had worldwide recognition), and was well-known throughout Europe and portions of Asia. His recognizability is perhaps more time-bound (who knows who he is today?), but the quote was from 1979 (when he was still a worldwide icon of high couture and not a budget-conscious caricature as he was at the end). Accusing someone of ethnocentrism is, I don't think, an appropriate response to the proposed hook (especially if you don't know that person, or their contributions). If you are concerned that hooks are not worldwide in nature, I can only respond that 1) That is not a DYK criteria and 2) 17 of the accepted 22 hooks for this year do not involve worldwide topics. A far more appropriate criticism of the hook would be that it does not say ''where'' Ben Cooper, Inc. sold 4 million costumes (a very legitimate issue which I will correct). - ] (]) 19:10, 30 September 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::*I added an image here. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to scale down as well as I'd like. There are other images from this company on WikiCommons, if anyone wants to take a look. - ] (]) 00:57, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
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This nomination is a bit of a special case. I originally nominated ] on August 3 following a 5x expansion (see discussion above under ]). Everyone accepted that it met the DYK criteria but the nomination was derailed by a political dispute over timing. I've put forward a compromise at ], which involves passing this DYK now but scheduling its appearance on January 1, 2011, which is 60 years to the day since the seal was first used. This proposal has been generally welcomed so I'm putting it forward here for formal consideration. I'm aware that the timeframe is somewhat longer than would be usual for scheduled DYKs, but in the circumstances I think a some flexibility would be justified. I've put forward two possible hooks: the original one as proposed earlier, and a new alternative tying the DYK in more directly with the date. -- ] (]) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:*] Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification: <s>Are we nominating this (with whichever hook) ''sans'' image as you initially suggested on Jimbo's talk page?</s><br />--] (]) 00:39, 14 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
:*''Appended:'' I see that you removed the image from inclusion in the original nomination, so I'll assume this post-dated nomination would not include the image either. However, this necessitates further clarification: | |||
::Are we excluding the image from this DYK solely because of the recent interaction with the FBI?<br />--] (]) 01:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::In effect yes, but in my view it's a necessary evil if we're to reach a satisfactory compromise on this issue. -- ] (]) 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
:*] - '''Tentative''' Even if the motivation behind qualifying this article for DYK was questionable, I think you already achieved not just a satisfactory compromise, but a completely valid and justifiable use for it. In fact, it's use is ''<u>so</u>'' valid, refusing to use the image for no other reason than the recent hoobajoo with the FBI is blatantly (]) ]...and I just can't get behind that. If we're going to censor it, we need to go whole hog or don't go at all.<br />Could we put it up for ']' to avoid reasoning for exclusion of the image?<br />--] (]) 01:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
:*No opinion on whether to feature on the future date; however, it would be better if this hook didn't remain on the suggestions page for the intervening months, as it is bound to attract further discussion and the page is unwieldy enough as it is. ] <small>(])</small> 01:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Espresso's suggestion may be useful for more than just making this page leaner. A delay in nomination would lend to better perspective for those establishing consensus. In other words, removing it from discussion for a couple months would also put some time between recent events and the article (and hopefully image) being contemplated for a main page feature (unless such a delay would disqualify it from use in DYK section).<br />--] (]) 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::'''Comment''' This hook should not "disappear" for a few months. It is far better to leave it here to enable a wide input from editors on the issue. I think this is a good compromise that involves common sense, the proposal and special treatment of the timescale fitting nicely under ]. ] (]) 13:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
:* Support ALT2 for use on 1 January, 2011. ] (]) 10:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
::*Suggest scrapping this troublesome controversial DYK, the user that instigated the issue has also since retired, suggest retiring this idea as well. ] (]) 13:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::*Would you please stop with your blatant pushing of the issue? Putting this off until January removes all controversy related to it. <font color="silver">]</font><font color="blue">]</font><sup>]</sup> 13:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::*Your comment is just a simple personal attack, I have bigger fish to relentlessly pursue than this worthless disruptive DYK. ] (]) 14:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::::*Nothing of what I said was or is a personal attack. I know you greatly dislike ChrisO and myself, but could you please not try and push an already outdated issue? <font color="silver">]</font><font color="blue">]</font><sup>]</sup> 14:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
:* I support ALT2 for the 1 January date. The anniversary makes this a very good choice for that day. -- ] (]) 22:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC) | |||
The holding area is ]. Please only place approved templates there; do not place them below. | |||
I do not support 1 January 2011. The DYK section is for new articles. There are exceptions like April Fools and Halloween; I do not see the point of making every day of the year a possible exception. ] (]) 20:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC) | |||
*'''Oppose''' Anniversary or not, a four-month wait at DYK is an overkill. The point of DYK is to present new or newly expanded articles, not to present "on this day". By then this article will be more than four months old. If this line of though is going to be followed, DYK is going to end up in a mess. The length of this entry is plain evidence for why keeping things around for almost five months is not a good idea. <font>] <sup>]</sup></font> 13:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC) | |||
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*] per ]. I would count this as a valid use of IAR. This could have gone up for today. The only reason it isn't going up is for political reasons. I disagree with Jimbo and others on that matter and think we should run it now, but there is no need to reject it entirely on that basis. '''<font color="navy">]</font>''' ''(<font color="green">]</font>)'' 03:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC) | |||
*'''Support''' as this would have been promoted in the usual time window if not for the decision to shelve it until the political heat was off. To kill it now because a delay was agreed to would be an egregious abuse of trust. - ] (]) 09:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC) | |||
:''Note: Articles intended to be held for special occasion dates should be nominated within seven days of creation, start of expansion, or promotion to Good Article status. The nomination should be made at least one week prior to the occasion date, to allow time for reviews and promotions through the prep and queue sets, but not more than six weeks in advance. The proposed occasion must be deemed sufficiently special by reviewers. The timeline limitations, including the six week maximum, may be waived by consensus, if a request is made at ], but requests are not always successful. Discussion clarifying the hold criteria can be found here: ]; discussion setting the six week limit can be found here: ].'' | |||
*'''Oppose''' per Arsenikk. ]]/] 22:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
*'''Support''' per NuclearWarfare and Dravecky—<font face="Cambria" size="3">]<sub>]/]</sub></font> 20:05, 5 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
*'''Support''', per {{user|Chrishomingtang}}. -- ''']''' (]) 06:13, 6 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
*'''Support''' - This was initially nominated ''in a timely manner'', with an image of the seal, but due to political considerations (public dispute between Wikimedia Foundation and the FBI over the use of the image of the seal) it was agreed that the image should not be used on the main page, and that the hook should be held and run at a later date, when the dispute was not so much in the news. The 60th anniversary of the first use of the seal makes a perfect tie-in, and while it is longer than DYK hooks are normally held for special occassions, Dravecky is correct that it would be egregious to reject it now on the basis of timing. ] (]) 19:07, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
*'''Support''' - cmadler really sums up the issue for me. The circumstances of the original nomination and the fact of the 60th anniversary are significant enough that we ought to make an exception to the requirement that DYK items be from recently-created articles. -- ''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 19:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:''April Fools' Day hooks are exempted from the timeline limit; see ''']'''.'' | |||
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* ] – This is an automated list of promising new articles generated by {{User3|AlexNewArtBot}}. | |||
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Articles created/expanded on November 2
Oscar Goodman (basketball)
( )- ... that Oscar Goodman is New Zealand's only global basketball tournament 1st team all-tournament honoree since 2002?
TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:23, 5 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Covered for newness, length, sourcing, neutrality, is plagiarism-free, and the hook is cited and interesting. QPQ done. Good to go on this one! Sims2aholic8 (talk) 18:03, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- What's a "global basketball tournament 1st team all-tournament honoree"? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:22, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Goodman has participated in three FIBA sanctioned tournaments. The first was just a regional competition for countries in Oceania. The second was a tournament for countries in Asia (and/including Oceania). The third was for countries around the world. I use the term global to mean a tournament open to worldwide/global contestants. Such tournaments select honorary teams to recognize the best performers in the tournament. These teams are called all-tournament teams and the players chosen are honorees. Sometimes the tournament will select a best five (the first team) and a next best five (the second team).-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:05, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- This has likely not been promoted because the "global ... honoree" bit is pretty indecipherable. TonyTheTiger, would it be possible for you to compose a new hook? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:56, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- would changing global to worldwide be satisfactory?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:37, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1... that Oscar Goodman is New Zealand's only 1st team all-tournament honoree in a worldwide basketball tournament since 2002?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:46, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Haven't checked the article, but the above wording should address the ambiguity given the context provided. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:35, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- @TonyTheTiger: Since the nomination is already two months old (meaning DYKTIMEOUT could apply to this nomination) and there have been concerns about "obscure US sports terminology" on DYK, maybe you can reword ALT1 slightly to make it clear what "all-tournament honoree" means? I can imagine that reviewers, and maybe readers, might have a hard time understanding what "all-tournament" means, so a more generalist wording might be in order here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:58, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Haven't checked the article, but the above wording should address the ambiguity given the context provided. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:35, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2... that Oscar Goodman is New Zealand's only top 5 player (all-tournament team) honoree in a worldwide basketball tournament since 2002?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:31, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Sims2aholic8, AirshipJungleman29, Narutolovehinata5, and Theleekycauldron: is this nomination approved or waiting approval?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:36, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- The article itself is approved, just not the hook. ALT2 is not suitable as it includes a phrase in parentheses, which is discouraged per WP:DYK200. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:54, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- ALT3... that Oscar Goodman is New Zealand's only all-tournament top 5 team honoree in a worldwide basketball tournament since 2002?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:30, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Frankly, that doesn't really appear to address the interest concerns ("all-tournament"? "top 5 team honoree"?) Maybe another editor can suggest a workshopped wording. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- ALT4... that as a teenager Oscar Goodman trained for months at a time in Australia, away from his New Zealand home?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:58, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5:-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:36, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Normally I'd think it was okay, but given how close Australia and New Zealand are (both geographically and historically), it seems less interesting than it normally would. Maybe AirshipJungleman29 or Sims2aholic8 could chime in? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:14, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- I get your point, but also from Canberra to New Plymouth it's about 1,400 miles (2,250km), so it's not exactly "close". It's not exactly the same as the span of the United States or Europe but it's comparable, and I think living that far away from home as a teenager is fairly impressive. I'm happy to defer here though if there is strong feeling elsewhere that this fact is not interesting enough. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 13:20, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Normally I'd think it was okay, but given how close Australia and New Zealand are (both geographically and historically), it seems less interesting than it normally would. Maybe AirshipJungleman29 or Sims2aholic8 could chime in? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:14, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- ALT5... that as a teenager Oscar Goodman trained for months at a time in Canberra, Australia, away from his New Plymouth, New Zealand home?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:38, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- User:Narutolovehinata5, Maybe throwing in the cities will make the distance more understandable per Sims2aholic8's comment.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:38, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- ALT6 Oscar Goodman graduated high school in December and enrolled in college immediately to join the 2024–25 Michigan Wolverines?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:25, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- ALT7 In November 2024, Oscar Goodman became one of the youngest men to make an international debut for the New Zealand men's national basketball team?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:55, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- I suppose ALT6 or ALT7 are safer options. I don't think ALT5 really solves the issue: normally ALT4 by itself would have been fine, it's just that Australia and New Zealand are so close culturally and politically that it doesn't seem as surprising. It's like saying an American spent some time in Canada. If it had been instead, for example, Brazil to the US or vice-versa, maybe. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:06, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Having grown up in Buffalo, New York, I don't really buy the America-Canada comparison. This is more like a teenager who grew up in Puerto Rico and had to go back and forth to train his skills in Miami at age 15. However, ALT7 makes a similar point to many of the rejected alts (up to ALT3) above.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:59, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- I suppose ALT6 or ALT7 are safer options. I don't think ALT5 really solves the issue: normally ALT4 by itself would have been fine, it's just that Australia and New Zealand are so close culturally and politically that it doesn't seem as surprising. It's like saying an American spent some time in Canada. If it had been instead, for example, Brazil to the US or vice-versa, maybe. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:06, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29, Theleekycauldron, and Sims2aholic8: Since the article is already over two months old and remains unpromoted (meaning WP:DYKTIMEOUT can apply), can we get some clarity on whether or not this is good to go? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:51, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- As frustrating as this probably is, I would unfortunately have to concur that given the complexity with finding a suitable hook that WP:DYKTIMEOUT would apply here. I will wait for AirshipJungleman29 and Theleekycauldron to weigh in here though before taking any action. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 14:33, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- What is wrong with ALT7?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:08, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- ALT8 that Oscar Goodman helped New Zealand under-17 basketball team reach the FIBA Under-16 Asia Cup championship game for the first time?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:17, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 15
Retelling
( )- ... that retelling of classic tales is a common occurrence? Source: https://researchers.mq.edu.au/en/publications/retelling-stories-across-time-and-cultures
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:38, 18 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Overall, the article meets all the criteria for warranting a DYK blurb, and QPQ has been satisfied, but I'm concerned that your proposed hook, in my opinion, doesn't seem that interesting or attention-grabbing. Do you think there's something else interesting you could bring up about retelling aside from how common it is? JJonahJackalope (talk) 21:15, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- @JJonahJackalope: Sure. How about: --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:31, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- ... that retelling of stories has led to emergence of, among others, feminist retellings focusing on previously marginalized or inexistent female characters?
- Piotrus, that definitely sounds more interesting, though if I could make an edit to the phrasing, maybe something like:
- ... that the feminist retelling of stories can focus on previously nonexistent or marginalized female characters?
- Let me know if this sounds good to you. JJonahJackalope (talk) 13:24, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- @JJonahJackalope: Yep, it does :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:33, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Great! I have no further concerns and will go ahead and approve that alt. JJonahJackalope (talk) 15:37, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Returned from Q7 per this post at WP:ERRORS as both article and hook need further work. Gatoclass (talk) 22:01, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Gatoclass: Neither me nor the reviewer were pinged and we just noticed this - please WP:ECHO relevant editors in the future, if you could. This seems like a very minor issue; I've added "nonexistent or marginalized" to the article body (fair point those words should be used there, thanks for noticing I forgot to elaborate there on this issue). Regarding the sentence " properly retold story should convince the reader to see the new version as more correct" I really do not see what's wrong with it, but I'll ping a friendly copyeditor and native speaker Nihil novi and perhaps they, or the reviewer JJonahJackalope, would like to comment on this or rewrite it. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:02, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- I've done some copyediting of the article which I hope will be helpful. Nihil novi (talk) 03:56, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. @JJonahJackalope: - can you re-check it again? TIA. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:24, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Piotrus:, I have reread the article and I believe that the edits have improved the quality of the page. Taking into account the post at WP:ERRORS, mentioned earlier in this discussion, would you be okay with a slightly reformulated version of their recommended DYK hook:
- Thank you. @JJonahJackalope: - can you re-check it again? TIA. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:24, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- I've done some copyediting of the article which I hope will be helpful. Nihil novi (talk) 03:56, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Gatoclass: Neither me nor the reviewer were pinged and we just noticed this - please WP:ECHO relevant editors in the future, if you could. This seems like a very minor issue; I've added "nonexistent or marginalized" to the article body (fair point those words should be used there, thanks for noticing I forgot to elaborate there on this issue). Regarding the sentence " properly retold story should convince the reader to see the new version as more correct" I really do not see what's wrong with it, but I'll ping a friendly copyeditor and native speaker Nihil novi and perhaps they, or the reviewer JJonahJackalope, would like to comment on this or rewrite it. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:02, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- ...that the retelling of stories can focus on female characters to reflect the feminist perspective?
- Let me know what you think. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 13:36, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 17
Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab Al Faihani
( ) Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab Al Faihani- ... that Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab's claimed photo circulated online is actually Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab Al Faihani?
Faldi00 (talk) 19:35, 19 November 2024 (UTC).
- ALT1... that the photo circulated online claimed to be of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab (d. 1792) is actually Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab Al Faihani?
Same refs etc. Bit spicier. Johnbod (talk) 21:10, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- I prefer this one. The sentence structure and lexicons are way better. Faldi00 (talk) 06:24, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Take it from a native speaker; they're not. But whatever. Johnbod (talk) 13:09, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- I prefer this one. The sentence structure and lexicons are way better. Faldi00 (talk) 06:24, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
The article was nominated two days after creation. It is long enough and appears comprehensive. Google Translate allows for a basic inspection of the sources, and I see nothing of concern. ALT1 is superior indeed, both in sentence structure and hookiness. In fact, the original hook is hardly interesting, but the same fact is framed well in the alternative hook. --Surtsicna (talk) 11:17, 31 December 2024 (UTC)- @Faldi00 and Surtsicna: are we sure mujaddid.net and fnoor.com are reliable sources? neither of them looks like it has professional editorial control/fact-checking... theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 18:20, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- It is difficult for me to tell with certainty because of the language/script barrier, but you might be right. Unfortunately these are the sources for the hook and for the identity of the man in the photograph. I did a reverse image search and could not find another source confirming that the man in the photograph is the subject of the article. Yusuf Asar Yathar, Faldi00, can we get a better source? --Surtsicna (talk) 10:50, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 18
Raul Meza Jr.
( )- ... that serial killer Raul Meza Jr. began using drugs at age eight?
- Source: https://www.kxan.com/investigations/in-depth-history-of-austins-accused-serial-killer-raul-meza/
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Overall: Article meets all the relevant guidelines, hook is cited to a brand of MSNBC which is considered reliable by consensus. Hook is interesting, nice work! It is a wonderful world (talk) 22:17, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- I have pulled the hook over WP:DYKBLP concerns. Regardless of the fact that he is primarily known for negative reasons, unduly focusing on a negative aspect about a living person violates the rule (it would be due to have a hook about his murders, but not about something he did as a kid and what he wasn't known for). A new hook will need to be proposed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:58, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that when the serial killer Raul Meza Jr. was asked if he was apologetic, he asked: "What's the use if a person will not accept it?"?--Launchballer 18:57, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds better. @It is a wonderful world: Can you please check ALT1? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:44, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- I like that hook a lot, but I think "he stated" would be better than "he asked", to avoid the repetition of "asked". Also, I don't think it needs a double question mark? It is a wonderful world (talk) 17:03, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1a: ... that when the serial killer Raul Meza Jr. was asked if he was apologetic, he replied: "What's the use if a person will not accept it?".--Launchballer 17:15, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Probably ready for a new check. Courtesy ping to Swinub in case they weren't aware of the above discussion and the new hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:19, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- This one is better. Swinub★ 06:12, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1a: ... that when the serial killer Raul Meza Jr. was asked if he was apologetic, he replied: "What's the use if a person will not accept it?".--Launchballer 17:15, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- I like that hook a lot, but I think "he stated" would be better than "he asked", to avoid the repetition of "asked". Also, I don't think it needs a double question mark? It is a wonderful world (talk) 17:03, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds better. @It is a wonderful world: Can you please check ALT1? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:44, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that when the serial killer Raul Meza Jr. was asked if he was apologetic, he asked: "What's the use if a person will not accept it?"?--Launchballer 18:57, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 19
2019 NFC Divisional Playoff game (Seattle–Green Bay)
( )- ... that the Seattle Seahawks' loss to the Green Bay Packers in their 2019 Divisional Playoff game was their ninth straight to the Packers at Lambeau Field?
- Reviewed: Sehome, Bellingham, Washington
« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:36, 21 November 2024 (UTC).
- Question: A few refs say that they were retrieved in 2020. I'm assuming this had a longer draft history than what I'm seeing here, but is there another explanation? ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:13, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Pbritti just reused some references from Packers-Seahawks rivalry. I can change the access dates if you would like. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- I hate to be saying this so late after you've nominated this article, but I have notability concerns. A cursory review of WP:NEVENT suggests that the coverage ranging from only within a month of when the game was played raises concerns regarding whether it merits an article. If there's a localized standard/guideline that permits divisional playoff games to have a presumed notability (I wouldn't be surprised, as I guess that makes sense), then please let me know. Thanks for the clarification. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:31, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Pbritti, I have added three sources from a few years out. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 23:05, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Gonzo fan2007: Long enough, new enough. Earwig checks out and so does the QPQ. I don't find the hook interesting at all - what else have you got?--Launchballer 17:53, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Launchballer ALT1: ... that the Seattle Seahawks' loss to the Green Bay Packers in their 2019 Divisional Playoff game continued a growing rivalry between the two teams, who met in the playoffs four times in 16 years up to that point? SL93 (talk) 03:18, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Gonzo fan2007: Long enough, new enough. Earwig checks out and so does the QPQ. I don't find the hook interesting at all - what else have you got?--Launchballer 17:53, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Pbritti, I have added three sources from a few years out. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 23:05, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- I hate to be saying this so late after you've nominated this article, but I have notability concerns. A cursory review of WP:NEVENT suggests that the coverage ranging from only within a month of when the game was played raises concerns regarding whether it merits an article. If there's a localized standard/guideline that permits divisional playoff games to have a presumed notability (I wouldn't be surprised, as I guess that makes sense), then please let me know. Thanks for the clarification. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:31, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Pbritti just reused some references from Packers-Seahawks rivalry. I can change the access dates if you would like. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry Launchballer, don't know how I missed this. I think nine straight losses, especially in the NFL, is an interesting statistic. For generally any sports fan, that many straight losses is unexpected and unique. Do you have any suggestions? I'm not sure i find SL93 that "hooky". « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 04:17, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'll be honest, I missed completely that that was what the hook was trying to tell me. I've taken the liberty of adding a clause from ref #21 as I think it adds interest, and would suggest inverting ALT0 as some variant of ALT2: ... that the Green Bay Packers' 2019 National Football Conference victory against the Seattle Seahawks was their ninth at Lambeau Field in 20 years?, though you'll need another reviewer for 'in 20 years'.--Launchballer 00:59, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Launchballer, I am good with ALT2. Thanks! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:08, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'll be honest, I missed completely that that was what the hook was trying to tell me. I've taken the liberty of adding a clause from ref #21 as I think it adds interest, and would suggest inverting ALT0 as some variant of ALT2: ... that the Green Bay Packers' 2019 National Football Conference victory against the Seattle Seahawks was their ninth at Lambeau Field in 20 years?, though you'll need another reviewer for 'in 20 years'.--Launchballer 00:59, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Sun Haven (video game)
( )- ... that players can marry the leader in Sun Haven?
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... that players have unlimited energy in Sun Haven, unlike other farm sims?Source: https://www.ign.com/wikis/sun-haven/Tips_and_Tricks_for_Beginners "One of our favorite features in Sun Haven (or lack thereof) is a stamina system. You don't need to worry about passing out from exerting too much energy like you do in other farming games" - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Crimson Diamond
- Comment: Coincidentally, the QPQ is also a video game. I've been waiting for this game on the Switch (even though I don't own one) and its finally due to release by end of month! It was all because of this video.
- ALT1:
JuniperChill (talk) 00:29, 20 November 2024 (UTC).
- Note: this may be suitable to run on 30 November, the day after the game is on the Switch as its scheduled to release on 29 Nov at 0700 PST (1500 UTC) according to this Reddit post, which was posted by one of the developers (see the username). I totally forgot about the special hook occasion and only just realised. If not, the 29th will do. JuniperChill (talk) 22:40, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Also ALT0a: that players can marry Lucia, the leader of Sun Haven?
- Pretty well-written and interesting article. Both the length and citation quality are alright, however I am of the view that the proposed hooks might potentially be in violation of the rule that "If the subject of the hook is a work of fiction or a fictional character, the hook must be focused on a real-world fact." (WP:DYKFICTION). Would be great if you could propose some other alternatives. Cheers, KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 10:56, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Kingoflettuce: Well, you can't marry the leaders of Stardew Valley, Coral Island and My Time at Portia/Sandrock so I was thinking SH is unique in this way. Plus, marrying is definitely a real-world fact so I only think ALT1 fails DYKFICTION (because you don't have unlimited stamina IRL) and have self-crossed it out, leaving ALT0/0a it is. JuniperChill (talk) 12:13, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- I would disagree with saying that ALT0 definitely meets WP:DYKFICTION because it's about marriage and the concept of marriage is a real-life fact. Plenty of things that happen in real life, such as births, deaths, marriages, going to school, etc. happen in works of fiction. The real issue here based on WP:DYKFICTION is if ALT0 is to be interpreted as a game mechanic or as a plot point: if it's the former, it might meet the guideline, but if it's the latter, it may not. Game mechanics are among those edge cases where it's not clear if DYKFICTION is met or not. At the very least, a reword may be needed. If not, maybe a different angle is needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:10, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'll hope for the best for this one then. I think i've learnt that DYK hooks shouldn't talk about the game and talk about the real word associated with it. JuniperChill (talk) 08:36, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- I would disagree with saying that ALT0 definitely meets WP:DYKFICTION because it's about marriage and the concept of marriage is a real-life fact. Plenty of things that happen in real life, such as births, deaths, marriages, going to school, etc. happen in works of fiction. The real issue here based on WP:DYKFICTION is if ALT0 is to be interpreted as a game mechanic or as a plot point: if it's the former, it might meet the guideline, but if it's the latter, it may not. Game mechanics are among those edge cases where it's not clear if DYKFICTION is met or not. At the very least, a reword may be needed. If not, maybe a different angle is needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:10, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
Sources: https://www.thegamer.com/best-farming-games-ranked/ "This indie gem has flown under the radar for a surprisingly long time, not gaining much attention until it had its official 1.0 release in early 2023" and https://www.thegamer.com/sun-haven-worth-it/ "Few games blend farming RPG mechanics, casual slice-of-life interactions, and high fantasy styles like Sun Haven does" for ALT2 and 3 respectively
- @Kingoflettuce: Pinging for a return to the nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:58, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'd hate to be that guy, but I really don't find ALTS 3 and 4 interesting at all. Maybe others might? The article is rather well written and the other DYK criteria aren't an issue. KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 13:44, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thinking about this, I would have to agree. ALT2 is very vague (it is not uncommon for early access games to not gain traction until much later, let alone full release games), while ALT3 as currently written is also pretty vague and not very hooky. Taking a look at the article, I'm actually not sure if the article is even a good fit for DYK as there doesn't really seem to be any hook material in it, not even in the Reception section. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:21, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'd hate to be that guy, but I really don't find ALTS 3 and 4 interesting at all. Maybe others might? The article is rather well written and the other DYK criteria aren't an issue. KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 13:44, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Kingoflettuce: Pinging for a return to the nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:58, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- The only remaining options I can see in the article could be either of the following:
- ALT4 ... that the 2023 life simulator Sun Haven has been compared to Stardew Valley?
- ALT5 ... that a reviewer described the game Sun Haven as similar to Stardew Valley, but more magical and fantastic?
- Stardew Valley is a very popular and well-known game (saying as someone who's yet to play it), but I'm not actually sure if the angles would work if readers don't know Stardew Valley. In addition, JuniperChill has a notice on their talk page saying they are on Wikibreak until the end of the month: should the nomination continue in their absence? Pinging Kingoflettuce again for input, or possibly other editors like RoySmith and Launchballer regarding the latter question. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:50, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, im on a christmas holiday rn which is why I made almost no edits this month. As my talk page says, I will be back sometime around 30 Dec. I would think alt5 is the way to go because it adds more info than alt4, but I should put this nom on hold until at least new year. JuniperChill (talk) 06:22, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- WP:DYKTIMEOUT suggests we should keep this alive until Jan 20th. RoySmith (talk) 16:08, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Kingoflettuce, Narutolovehinata5, and RoySmith: I'm home now. Does anyone have an optionion on alt4-5? I think we can work with alt4-5 since this game has often been compared with Stardew (well, Fields of Mistria too given the influx of new farm sims from 2023). A little bit unfortunate that I was on a long holiday wikibreak but at least Tiny Glade (nom) was reviewed just days before that started. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JuniperChill (talk • contribs) 12:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Redoing pings to @Kingoflettuce, Narutolovehinata5, and RoySmith:, which wouldn't have gone through because original post was not signed. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:56, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, I must have forgotten that I need to manually sign posts here due to lack of reply feature and especially due to my wikiholidaybreak. I'm quite used to the reply feature as it automatically appends my signature. I only forgotten to sign my comment a few times and it was all by accident. I was about to leave a followup comment cause I would've expected a reply within 24 hours. JuniperChill (talk) 02:19, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- As the proposer of ALT4-5, I'm probably not the best person to ask regarding them. As a gamer I might find them somewhat interesting, but I'm not sure if either hook would appeal to non-gamers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:40, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, I must have forgotten that I need to manually sign posts here due to lack of reply feature and especially due to my wikiholidaybreak. I'm quite used to the reply feature as it automatically appends my signature. I only forgotten to sign my comment a few times and it was all by accident. I was about to leave a followup comment cause I would've expected a reply within 24 hours. JuniperChill (talk) 02:19, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Redoing pings to @Kingoflettuce, Narutolovehinata5, and RoySmith:, which wouldn't have gone through because original post was not signed. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:56, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Kingoflettuce, Narutolovehinata5, and RoySmith: I'm home now. Does anyone have an optionion on alt4-5? I think we can work with alt4-5 since this game has often been compared with Stardew (well, Fields of Mistria too given the influx of new farm sims from 2023). A little bit unfortunate that I was on a long holiday wikibreak but at least Tiny Glade (nom) was reviewed just days before that started. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JuniperChill (talk • contribs) 12:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 21
SpongeKnob SquareNuts
( )- ... that SpongeBob has an existential crisis in a porn parody?
- Source: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/spongebob-porn-parody-spongeknob-squarenuts-415349/
Di (they-them) (talk) 05:34, 21 November 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Nice hook and it's cited. The article is in good shape as well, and QPQ is provided here. No copyright violation concerns. The article is definitely...interesting! ~ Tails Wx 06:58, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- currently at AfD. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 18:21, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 22
Sugya
( )- ... that the composition of a sugya, or passage in the Babylonian Talmud, has multiple layers, with the latest edited with an anonymous voice?
- Source: "Separating the Tannaitic, Amoraic, and Stammaitic layers reveals that the rabbis employ increasingly abstract formulations and concepts in their legal science." Stammaitic = anonymous (same source). See: Rubenstein at https://www.ancientjewreview.com/read/2016/2/9/talmudicstories
- ALT1: ... that a sugya, or passage in the Talmud, may be read as folklore, philosophy, proto-feminist, or legal virtuosity? Source: Folklore -- Stein, Dina (2019). "Linguistic Liaisons: Wives and Vows in the Babylonian Talmud (BT Nedarim 66a-b)". Nashim: A Journal of Jewish Women's Studies & Gender Issues (35). Philosophy: Lévinas, Emmanuel; Aronowicz, Annette; Lévinas, Emmanuel (1990). Nine Talmudic readings. Bloomington: Indiana Univ. Press. ISBN 978-0-253-20876-7. Proto-feminist: Hauptman, Judith (1998). Rereading the rabbis: a woman's voice. Boulder, Colo.: Westview Press. ISBN 978-0-8133-3400-4. Conceptual "virtuosity: -- Moscovitz, Leib (2003). ""Designation is Significant": An Analysis of the Conceptual Sugya in bSan 47b–48b". AJS Review. 27 (2): 227–252. Let me know if quotes from sources would be helpful.
- ALT2: ... that anonymous editors may create a sugya, or passage in the Talmud, by rewording quotations by earlier rabbis? Source: Moscovitz, Leib. "'The Holy Blessed One Be He... Does Not Permit the Righteous to Stumble': Reflections on the Development of a Remarkable BT Theologoumenon." In Rubenstein, Jeffrey L., ed. Creation and Composition: the Contribution of the Bavli Redactors (Stammaim) to the Aggada. Mohr Sieback, 2005, p126 "Second, the anonymous BT redactors contributed to the Talmud by reformulating amoraic dicta, not just by adding to their statements." Friedman, Shamma (2005). "A Good Story Deserves Retelling – The Unfolding Of The Akiva Legend" in same book: see p.72 "anonymous voice in the sugyot... original and creative rather than simply preserving or transmitting"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tony Pajaczkowski
- Comment: Open to suggestions with the hook, trying to avoid insider jargon. Also, please help with my faulty template use in the QPQ. Btw, "proto-feminist" isn't quite parallel structure.
ProfGray (talk) 04:43, 24 November 2024 (UTC).
- @ProfGray: Long enough, new enough. QPQ done and Earwig picks up nothing. I added a {{cn}} tag that needs addressing. More serious, however, is the fact that I don't find any of the hooks to meet WP:DYKINT and I can't see anything in the article that would make a good hook, though the latter may because this is extremely technical.--Launchballer 15:26, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback. How about this? ... that only in the 20th C. were scholars able to prove when a sugya, or passage in the Babylonian Talmud, was invented as if written by earlier authors?
- Trying to avoid the plural form, sugyot. "Invented" in the article, could say "composed" in the hook. It's kind of pseudoepigraphic. This finding was crucial to the historical study of Talmud vs the religious. ProfGray (talk) 19:36, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Noel Hilliam
( )- ... that shipwreck hunter Noel Hilliam claimed to find a sunken U-Boat off the coast of New Zealand?
- Source: In 2008 The Underwater Heritage Group (of which Noel Hilliam was vice-president) announced that they had discovered a German U-boat off the Kaipara Coast. Hilliam claimed the submarine had been 'observed seven times' and three divers had been to it – however, no photographs exist and it has not since been seen.
- Reviewed:
Petersmeter (talk) 07:06, 26 November 2024 (UTC).
- I'll give this a review. Schwede66 08:24, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Some content issues first. The date and place of birth are unreferenced, and you either need to reference those or remove the info. There is an unreferenced section (same thing; either reference it or remove the info). Misplaced Pages use quotation marks (") rather than apostrophes ('); please change this throughout the article. I've fixed up numerous stylistic issues myself. Now to the DYK criteria. The article was new in mainspace when it was nominated. It's long enough. Apart from the parts listed above, it's suitably referenced. Hilliam was a controversial chap, but I'm happy that it's written in a neutral way. Earwig is clean; all it finds are direct quotes. This appears to be the nominator's second DYK nomination, hence a QPQ is not required. The grammar of the hook is off; it would need to be "claimed to have found". The hook fact itself is referenced. Once the above issues are sorted, this is good to go. Schwede66 09:33, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help with this article Schwede66 - I think I have corrected all the quotation marks, added references for the unreferenced section and added a reference for birth place/date. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petersmeter (talk • contribs) 13:41, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- You will find that Geni.com is not a reliable source; it's listed at Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Perennial sources. I suggest you have a look on PapersPast whether you can find a birth notice in one of the local papers. Schwede66 16:55, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks - I have trawled through papers past and online am unable to find any other references. So have removed the date and location of birth. Petersmeter (talk)
- Good to go. Schwede66 23:19, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Petersmeter and Schwede66: I've added a tag for OR to the "Doubt" section: for example, his alleged reliance on anonymous "experts" is not verified by a source, and the examples provided don't seem to be linked in RS. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:10, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Good to go. Schwede66 23:19, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
References
- "U-196 found off New Zealand ?". Uboat.net.
- "German U-boat found in Northland waters, group claims". RNZ. 7 November 2008.
Articles created/expanded on November 26
Alessandra Rojo de la Vega
( )- ...that Alessandra Rojo de la Vega became the mayor of Cuauhtémoc, Mexico City after a very contested election, with a gunshot attack, several vote recounts and accusations of gender violence?
Alan Islas (talk) 15:43, 1 December 2024 (UTC).
- Comment-only, refer to WP:DYKHOOKBLP. (CC) Tbhotch 05:17, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Notwithstanding Tbhotch's comment, QPQ has yet to be done. KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 11:20, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Alan Islas: You need to review another article, and you also need to consider hooks that are not unduly negative for this living person per Tbhotch's suggestion. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:18, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: Thanks everybody for looking into my submission. Apologies for the delay in replying, I was not able to work on this due to external circumstances. Completed review of Template:Did you know nominations/Marzēaḥ.
About the hook, it is not intended to be negative, as Rojo de la Vega showed resiliency to overcame all the obstacles. In the end her case prevailed in the electoral courts and she was confirmed as the winner of a very contested election. However, I do see how it can be interpreted differently. I have to go to work now, but I'll get back to this tonight, edit the original hook and add alternatives. Alan Islas (talk) 14:53, 27 December 2024 (UTC)- Pinging the actual reviewer Kingoflettuce for this update. (I just was pinging to move the nomination along.) Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 14:55, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: Thanks everybody for looking into my submission. Apologies for the delay in replying, I was not able to work on this due to external circumstances. Completed review of Template:Did you know nominations/Marzēaḥ.
Articles created/expanded on December 1
Qvadriga
( )- ... that the 2014 chariot racing video game Qvadriga was inspired by the 1979 board game Circus Maximus?
hahnchen 00:04, 6 December 2024 (UTC).
- This is my first DYK review so let me know if I made a mistake. QPQ has been done. Article long enough (5032 characters), images licensed correctly, Earwig null results, article is well-referenced and presentable. Hook is verified and cited to a reliable primary source. However, I do not think the hook is interesting. Why should regular reader care that a video game is inspired by another board game? Ca 02:25, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, the reason I chose this hook is because there's a large gap in between the board game and the video game. I thought it was interesting to show the board game's legacy. I can suggest other hooks which refer to chariot racing, like the forty-three hippodromes and circuses, but I felt that less interesting because they are all just presented from a top down view. - hahnchen 15:22, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- To me, the fact that this is a racing game based on turn-based tactics seem interesting, since most racing games are real-time. However, I don't know if WP:DYKFICTION applies here. Ca 01:28, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think that it being a turn-based tactical racing game is interesting, it is certainly rare for a video game. Alt hooks suggested below, but I still prefer the original
- ALT1... that PC gaming website Rock Paper Shotgun named the turn-based tactics game Qvadriga as the best racing game of 2014?
- * Source: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/best-racing-game-2014-qvadriga
- ALT2... that Qvadriga is a turn-based tactics chariot racing video game set in ancient Rome?
- * Source: https://www.eurogamer.net/qvadriga-review or http://www.turnopia.com/qvadriga/ or the game itself
- hahnchen 20:28, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think that it being a turn-based tactical racing game is interesting, it is certainly rare for a video game. Alt hooks suggested below, but I still prefer the original
- To me, the fact that this is a racing game based on turn-based tactics seem interesting, since most racing games are real-time. However, I don't know if WP:DYKFICTION applies here. Ca 01:28, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, the reason I chose this hook is because there's a large gap in between the board game and the video game. I thought it was interesting to show the board game's legacy. I can suggest other hooks which refer to chariot racing, like the forty-three hippodromes and circuses, but I felt that less interesting because they are all just presented from a top down view. - hahnchen 15:22, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think the original hook is the most interesting due to the contrast of game years. But the alternative hooks are also good. Maybe more emphasis could be placed on the contrast between mobile game vs board game? Moondragon21 (talk) 15:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Tellus (app)
( )- ... that even though California-based company Tellus does not possess a banking license, it offers non-FDIC-insured interest-bearing demand deposit accounts to consumers? Source: Barron's 1
- ALT1: ... that 68% of funds lent by Tellus between April and December 2023 were given to affiliates of one real estate investment firm to invest in Silicon Valley housing? Source: Barron's 2
- ALT2: ... that California-based startup Tellus pivoted from being a property management app to a consumer-facing financial services company? Source: Barron's 1
- ALT3: ... that while Tellus packages together cash from multiple consumer depositors to make real estate loans, and is not FDIC-insured, it states that it does not offer mortgage-backed securities to consumers? Source: TechCrunch
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Cherry on Top (Bini song) Template:Did you know nominations/Dithapelo Keorapetse
- Comment: QPQs completed.
— Red-tailed hawk (nest) 06:38, 1 December 2024 (UTC).
- This is not a review but rather than a comment, but ALT0 and ALT3 will probably have to be rejected due to both WP:DYKINT concerns (reliance on specialist terms that may not be easily understood by non-financial savvy readers, especially outside the US) and for also sounding rather promotional. ALT2 might be the only suitable option at this point. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:44, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- I understand how one could read Alt0 to be promotional (though I disagree and don’t see why non-insured demand deposit accounts are appealing but for their higher rates, which isn’t in the hook). But I’m really not sure how Alt3 could be seen that way—it’s highlighting that they don't purport to offer mortgage-backed securities even though they make what appears (to at least some professors cited in the body) be some sort of securitized loan offering without registration. That being said, I do take your point that people who don’t know much about managing their finances through investment could find these two hooks’ nuances hard to understand.Separately, I had been considering a book about the mysterious non-existent partnerships with banks that are mentioned in the article and were the subject of Senate scrutiny, but I couldn’t figure out a way to write it concisely in hook form without oversimplifying. I’ll take a crack at that over the next couple days with a clear head. — Red-tailed sock (Red-tailed hawk's nest) 16:10, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- I shall review this. Storye book (talk) 13:38, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Thank you for this carefully-detailed article about financial wheeler-dealing. Contrary to above comments, it would seem to me that any intelligent person can smell he stink emanating from that dodgy company, no matter what country they are in. So well done for alerting us to it, and well done for writing hooks which may guide readers to take a good look at the article. I could tell from the hooks alone that there was something very unsafe about the company's handliing of money, so I would certainly not take the hooks as obscure or uninteresting.
Good to go, with a preference for ALT3, even though it has 199 characters (i.e. close to the max of 200). Please do not prune ALT3, because this kind of financial detail is important and should not be messed about with. Thank you. Storye book (talk) 13:58, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Red-tailed hawk, am I right to read "and is not FIDC-insured" as only indirectly relevant to the rest of the hook? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:58, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: I am going to give a long-winded answer for posterity’s sake, but the short answer is that it is directly relevant.
- The way that the fractional-reserve banking systems works (in a very simplified way) is that banks receive deposits from customers and pool those funds to make loans, while keeping only a minimal small fraction of deposits as actual cash on hand. Banks receive interest payments from the loans they have made, and in turn provide customers with interest in their deposit accounts. In the U.S., banks are required to be FDIC insured—this keeps confidence in banks and prevents a bank run.
- Tellus, however, is not a licensed bank. As such, it doesn’t answer to the banking regulators. It also doesn’t hold FDIC insurance, as non-bank financial firms aren’t eligible for it.
- There is another to pool money from several individuals in order to issue a loan—securitization. In the mortgage industry, it is common for mortgage issuers to sell mortgages to other banks and Qualified institutional buyers, who would collect the interest in the long run. A mortgage-backed security is a financial instrument that is backed by these sorts of mortgages (alone or pooled with others); the security is broken into shares which are then distributed to other parties. Unregistered securities exist, and can even be sold between third-party banks and other QIBs under SEC rule 144A, but the big rule is that you can’t sell them to ordinary people because.
- The way that Tellus boost/reserve works (based on their January 2023 Boost ToS) is that deposits are general obligation debts of Tellus to its account holders, and represents only a debt from Tellus to the account holders. Tellus says that the cash accounts are not mortgage-backed securities because they are not; in fact, they’re backed only by Tellus’s future income as a firm—there is no specific asset backing them.
- So, you’ve got something here that they say is not a mortgage-backed security. And they also aren’t claiming that it’s a demand deposit backed by a specific asset, while also claiming in advertising that one can withdraw money (for boost accounts) whenever one would like. So one’s left with concluding that that they’re essentially securing private, apparently callable (in advertising but not in the actual customer agreement), interest-bearing debt financing to themselves from a set of people that apparently includes non-accredited investors. And the company is using that money (based on public statements) for commercial lending of its own.
- So, yes, the FDIC part matters, since it indicates that the firm is not acting like a bank would. And the MBS part matters, as it indicates that there is no specific asset backing the deposits. It’s its own thing, and it’s a unique and unusual model for a consumer-facing business’s finance arm.
- — Red-tailed sock (Red-tailed hawk's nest) 17:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- The hook has been pulled from Prep owing to concerns about the original hook (which is now struck). Per the discussion at WT:DYK, there are two possible options: ALT2, and a hook proposed by RoySmith (labeled as ALT4 here):
- ALT2: ... that California-based startup Tellus pivoted from being a property management app to a consumer-facing financial services company?
- ALT4 ... that while Tellus uses non-FDIC insured consumer deposits to make real-estate loans, it states that it does not offer mortgage-backed securities?
- While one editor also said ALT2 is suitable, discussion leaned more towards either of these two, so a new reviewer is needed to make a final decision. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:07, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- No, the discussion did not determine that, nor strike those hooks. Please do not strike my comments against the guidance of WP:TPO and please self-revert, as you have become WP:INVOLVED here. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 22:38, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- I did not strike your comments, only some of the hooks above. Striking hooks is a common practice on DYK regarding hooks that are deemed to no longer be under consideration. For what it's worth, there did seem to be (emphasis on "seem" here, so correct me if I'm wrong) loose consensus that the original hook was problematic, so that's probably out of the question now, though the discussion didn't rule out RoySmith's rewording of it. That's why there's the request for a previously uninvolved reviewer, to make sure the final decision is impartial. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:17, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- For the benefit of any new reviewers, the abovementioned discussion about this nomination is at Misplaced Pages talk:Did you know#Tellus (app). Storye book (talk) 10:21, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- I did not strike your comments, only some of the hooks above. Striking hooks is a common practice on DYK regarding hooks that are deemed to no longer be under consideration. For what it's worth, there did seem to be (emphasis on "seem" here, so correct me if I'm wrong) loose consensus that the original hook was problematic, so that's probably out of the question now, though the discussion didn't rule out RoySmith's rewording of it. That's why there's the request for a previously uninvolved reviewer, to make sure the final decision is impartial. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:17, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- No, the discussion did not determine that, nor strike those hooks. Please do not strike my comments against the guidance of WP:TPO and please self-revert, as you have become WP:INVOLVED here. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 22:38, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 2
Recategorization
( )- ... that in 2003, Rwanda adopted a constitution that recategorized Rwandans of Hutu, Tutsi, and Twa ethnicities into one identity, banyarwanda?
- Source: Beyond Conflict and Spoilt Identities: How Rwandan Leaders Justify a Single Recategorization Model for Post-Conflict Reconciliation
Authored by Sigrun Marie Moss and published in the Journal of Social and Political Psychology in 2014. PDF available at: Quotes: "Since 1994,the Rwandan government has attempted to remove the division of the population into the ‘ethnic’ groups (ubwoko) Hutu, Tutsi and Twa and instead encourage people to think of themselves only in terms of a common national Rwandan identity. This approach can be classified as recategorization of social identities– a process where subordinate identities are replaced with a shared or superordinate identity in order to improve intergroup relations." ...
"This comprehensive recategorization approach is based on a meta-narrative that essentialises Rwandan unity and de-essentialises ethnic identities, in a context where alternative narratives are not permitted. The 2003 constitution forbids genocide ideology, and a 2008 addition further limits identity discussions. These strict genocide ideology laws ban everything seen as divisionism, implying limited freedom of speech on topics of identity, political power and representation."- Reviewed:
Paradox38 (talk) 19:37, 8 December 2024 (UTC).
- @Paradox38: Welcome to DYK! New enough in mainspace (moved December 2) and long enough. Nominator is QPQ-exempt. The hook fact checks out. This is a promising page but needs action to proceed:
- All paragraphs beyond the lead section need to end in an inline citation. The paragraph beginning in
The challenges facing
might be fine since it's basically a summary of the cited paragraphs, but I see three paragraphs that have uncited portions. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 14:19, 19 December 2024 (UTC)- I've indicated them with tags. From what I understand the first two seem to be clarifying sentences, so could be removed if needed. The third one has additional content that would be more of a shame to remove. CMD (talk) 17:02, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- All paragraphs beyond the lead section need to end in an inline citation. The paragraph beginning in
Influencer
( ) Cavinder Twins in action Adrien Nunez as a basketball player- ... that the 2021 Supreme Court NCAA v. Alston ruling made student athlete influencers (pictured) eligible for compensation?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Aquilegia chrysantha
- Comment: 2 QPQs in one.
TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:38, 9 December 2024 (UTC).
- Interesting article. No problems with copyright and hook mentioned in the article with proper source. Images have no copyright problems and freely licensed. Overall, the article has no problems with citations. Good to go. Toadboy123 (talk) 12:25, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- @TonyTheTiger, Toadboy123, AirshipJungleman29, and RoySmith: per the nominator's request, I've pulled this hook while we sort out some content issues. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 18:10, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron, Toadboy123, AirshipJungleman29, and RoySmith: The article talk is pointing toward a formal WP:RM, which is a one-week process once it is started. Before it is started, a procedural reversion back to the original location is considered Kosher. Then the RM can commence. This was moved from main space on December 2. I am going to assume that if everything is settled within 2 months of that date it would be considered timely for DYK since it is not uncommon for noms to drag on that long. I expect to be able to report back with a properly formed page location consensus via RM before then.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:59, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- P.S. I do believe even a non-RM admin can process the reversion, if anyone wants to speed the process initiation along.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 07:01, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- My attitude on stuff like this is that as long as you get the nomination in on time (which you have), that stops the clock, so I wouldn't worry about that. RoySmith (talk) 13:53, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- P.S. I do believe even a non-RM admin can process the reversion, if anyone wants to speed the process initiation along.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 07:01, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 3
Articles created/expanded on December 6
Prius Missile
( )- ... that the Toyota Prius has been witnessed crashed so frequently it was referred as a missile?
- ALT1: ... that the Toyota Prius has been referred to a missile? Source: https://www.nextage.jp/model_guide/toyota/315383/
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I don't have negative intents against the vehicle, but the original may be a bit negative, so I have a more neutral ALT here as well. The name literally says "Prius Missile", so I thought this was a WP:BLUE situation, but I guess something is needed as a bare minimum.
ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 02:09, 6 December 2024 (UTC).
- Comment: @AlphaBetaGamma: Thanks for such an interesting article. I'm from California but I live in Hawaii. Both states have a lot of Priuses, so I was pretty confused by your hook when I read it, because in those two states, the Prius is not really known for crashes. (The joke around these parts is that it's usually a Nissan, but it's not exactly clear why that is). I read your article, and I see that it is mostly about a phenomenon in Japan involving older drivers, which makes a lot of sense and is quite interesting. I think this is the kind of hook (ALT0) that shocks readers (like myself) and increases traffic to your article, but I also wonder if it is somewhat misleading since the hook itself doesn't mention Japan or older drivers. In any case, it's a great hook, but I wonder if it is legit to shock the reader like this. If it is, it's highly effective and would probably get a lot of traffic. I'm not sure if we can trick readers like this, so I will ping a few people and see what they say: @Launchballer and RoySmith: Thanks. ABG, you are also missing the word "as" in ALT1. Viriditas (talk) 10:23, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
This seems like click bait. I wouldn't run it. RoySmith (talk) 13:59, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- @RoySmith: Thank you, that was one of my concerns. My other question is where is the red line? In other words, some of our most successful hooks approach clickbait, wouldn't you agree? How do you know when you've crossed that line? For me, this hook crosses it, as it doesn't let the reader know that the Prius is only considered accident prone in Japan due to the demographic of older drivers. Perhaps, if it just stopped there, it would be fine, but it doesn't. Reading further, we discover this is just a slang term, and that official data shows that Priuses are no more accident prone than other vehicles, which is what I suspected from the jump. For this reason, I am leaning into crossing out ALT0. Viriditas (talk) 21:15, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- Initial review
- Article is new enough and long enough and moved from draft to mainspace. Earwig shows no issues. It's not clear if the nominator is the author of the original article, which was created on ja.wikipedia in mid 2021. If not, I believe you're supposed to attribute when you copy over the material as a translation in your first edit, but you just wrote "start draft". In any case, you've got a fully formed, well written article over at ja, yet you only copied over (or wrote) a minor version of it here. I don't get why you did that. The current version here on en.wikipedia needs copyedits. However, I would encourage you to return to the ja article and import the majority of it back over here, as it makes much more sense and covers the entire topic in a comprehensive manner. As for your hooks, ALT0 is ragebait (see the discussion above), and you got me good! I was genuinely upset as to why the beloved Prius (official car of liberals in the US) was associated with crashes! I clicked so fast and hard that smoke came out of my mouse. It was then that I realized, I had been fooled. More so when I check the original article on ja. Then there's the image of the crashed vehicle. I recall seeing that image before, and I think it's from California. Have you considered using Japan-related images? So, you've got a lot of issues to deal with here, but I can walk you through them. First things first, why not copy over the entire article from ja? It's really well done and would clear up a great many things. Viriditas (talk) 21:51, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
Viriditas (talk) 21:51, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- Not really, the paragraph
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According to Masaki Kubota , the viral spread of the slang and the creation of the Prius's public image as a crash-prone car is thought to be caused by the extremely large amount of the car in use, the car being popular among older drivers, older drivers usually being overconfident in their driving skills, and the Prius's significance as a well-known car brand. |
Covered the entire "原因" paragraph. Not too sure how much I should cover beyond that. I hope the next ALT is more informing, because the lack of information causing "click bait" seems to be the issue here. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 22:12, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: ...that the Toyota Prius driven by older people in Japan has been referred to a missile?
- IMO, "referred to a missile" doesn't really work in English. Also, try rearranging your primary link so that it comes first; that tends to increase views. You may also want to work in the fact that this is a slang term or a meme, as that isn't made clear. As for the main ja article, I'm not clear on the disconnect based on your response. There's a lot of content in that article that didn't find its way here, and it more accurately describes the topic. Viriditas (talk) 22:24, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- What about "referred to as a missile"? I think that's grammatically correct. Bremps... 19:13, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Bremps: See my original review at the top. I already made that recommendation. Viriditas (talk) 19:51, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- I was quite stuck, so I reached out for help off-wiki, and some of them argued that specifying too much would not make a good hook. I've had issues thinking of a hook, and for the article itself, you told me a lot of information on jawiki didn't find way into the enwiki version I made. I did try to do my best to cover the content, but my lack of knowledge for cars itself basically barred me from inserting clear details to improve the article. I didn't really want to machine-paste the content either because google translate tends to be faulty for some words.
TL;DR - I'm stuck, because I thought I wrote a hook that gets views for once, but got turned down because the hook crossed into the boundaries of "click bait". (Aren't most successful hooks clickbaits or borderline clickbaits?) ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 05:22, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- It's a great question. I asked ChatGPT, and it gave some good answers. Non-clickbait should be 1) accurate 2) transparent, and this last one is the big one, 3) engage the reader through intrigue instead of deception, fabrication, or distortion. As I said above, without mentioning you are talking specifically about Japan and older people, it's pretty deceptive. Viriditas (talk) 08:10, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- @AlphaBetaGamma: Provided the article is in acceptable shape, I would support a hook that addresses the points in my above comment. In other words, mention Japan and the older demographic. No reason to still be stuck. Add new hooks. Viriditas (talk) 08:35, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3: ...that there is a slang term for Toyota Prius driven by older people in Japan? Source: https://www.nextage.jp/model_guide/toyota/315383/
- @AlphaBetaGamma: Provided the article is in acceptable shape, I would support a hook that addresses the points in my above comment. In other words, mention Japan and the older demographic. No reason to still be stuck. Add new hooks. Viriditas (talk) 08:35, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
I don't think this is interesting
- Then write a hook that is interesting. You'll also need to fix your lead section, which contradicts what we know about the accident rate. In other words, the slang didn't arise from the increased amount of accidents, but from the perception of it on the internet. It's basically a meme, not a real thing. One of the reasons I asked you to expand the article with the material from the Japanese Misplaced Pages is it would clear up all of these inconsistencies. It isn't exactly clear to me why you are hesitant to do this. Viriditas (talk) 10:43, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Lead rewritten with the same thing as jawiki mentioned. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 02:31, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- I mean, it reads like a huge improvement to me. Any thoughts come to you about new hooks? Viriditas (talk) 08:38, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Lead rewritten with the same thing as jawiki mentioned. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 02:31, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT4: ...that the Toyota Prius has been described as a missile in Japan on the internet due to the number of them seen on news reports of car accidents? Source: https://www.nextage.jp/model_guide/toyota/315383/
This hook is way too long, but trimming it would cause the previous issues to appear again ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 01:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC) Nevermind hook is 146 characters and meets policy haha ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 00:08, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
With that said, the previous alt definitely did not fix the previous issues...
- ALT5: ...that in Japan, the Toyota Prius has been described as a missile on the internet as it was falsely blamed for being a crash-prone car? Source: https://www.nextage.jp/model_guide/toyota/315383/
Also, is it possible to add the image currently present in the lead? It seems like it would be good to go for DYK, although the size may make it difficult to see the car, that may be an issue with my eyes and not the image quality itself. I'm not pinging the reviewer for now as everyone wants to do their own thing on this time. Seeing that I violated my wikibreak I'm going to ask for an enforcement block. Happy new year. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 00:19, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- I would be against including the image in question for the reasons I laid out up above, namely that it is inaccurate, since there's no indication the accident was in Japan (I'm pretty sure that's California depicted), and it would further promote an untrue stereotype. I would feel differently with an image from Japan showing an accident, particularly an image of the accident described in the article. Viriditas (talk) 00:57, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm going through the article and making a final read. It occurs to me, that this is part of a much larger phenomenon worldwide. In Japan, accidents caused by unintended acceleration due to pedal misapplication are as high as 18%, often attributed to the Prius because that car is more common there, but here in the United States, we have the same problem, and everyone I know can tell you about the little old lady/man who ran their car into the corner store, as it's extremely common and is happening just about everywhere. The only difference is that the Prius isn't as common here, so it's often a variety of different vehicles at fault. The older lady who did this down the street from me and accidentally drove her car into the market (which I took a photo of and still have in my archives somewhere) did so in an American sports car. Anyway, I just wanted to make a note of this. Viriditas (talk) 21:46, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Final review
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Overall: I believe that all of the outstanding problems have been fixed, although the hooks might still need some work. I think ALT5 comes closest to being acceptable. For those who aren't aware of this whole thing, this is a very real phenomenon. There have been numerous case studies of the age-related phenomenon of car accidents caused by unintended acceleration in Japan. The problem never had anything to do with Prius, but rather the fact that this car was very common and driven by older drivers. This internet slang term emerged out of this phenomenon, and likely led to increased, preventative safety measures added by Toyota in newer versions of the vehicle (as the article makes clear), not because there was something wrong with the Prius (there wasn't), but because older drivers in Japan tended to drive it and would often engage in unintended acceleration. I'm thinking that a hook that makes note of this might be the most neutral of all. In any case, I believe that variations of ALT3 and ALT5 can work, so I'm passing this, but I think a proposed ALT6 that makes note of the new safety features that were introduced to prevent older drivers from engaging in unintended acceleration might be best of all. I will request help in this regard on the DYK talk page as the nominator is on a self-imposed break. Viriditas (talk) 23:15, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- If none of the hooks are ready to be promoted at this time, then this shouldn't be ticked. Superseding the tick until a completely acceptable hook has been approved. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:12, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT6: ... that in Japan, the Toyota Prius has been described as a missile on the internet as it was falsely blamed for being a crash-prone car, forcing Toyota to introduce new safety measures? Source: https://www.nextage.jp/model_guide/toyota/315383/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlphaBetaGamma (talk • contribs) 04:21, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- @AlphaBetaGamma: I think ALT3 and ALT5 are ready to go, but you're going to need to clean it up a bit for grammar and presentation. Unfortunately, unlike some other reviewers, I can't pass my own hooks, so you'll need to do this yourself. You can ask for help on the DYK talk page if you like. Viriditas (talk) 09:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Sorry for the late response, what presentation issues still persist in ALT5? ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 10:47, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- It's the presentation of the hook. You don't need to focus on the make or model separate from the term as it's entirely unnecessary. I will give an example, but I can't approve my own hook so I will ask for a second opinion.
- ... that a Prius Missile is internet slang for traffic accidents involving older drivers in Japan?
Another reviewer is needed. Viriditas (talk) 20:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 10
Ethel Lote
( )- ... that World War II nurse Ethel Lote taught yoga classes until she was 95?
- ALT1: ... that World War II nurse Ethel Lote taught yoga classes until she was in her 90s? Source: "And she taught yoga well into her 90s"
- Reviewed:
- Comment: First hook is supported by the video in source, but I am unsure if videos can be used as evidence in a DYK nomination so I've added an alt hook just in case.
Spiderpig662 (talk) 21:48, 15 December 2024 (UTC).
This article has potential, but there are solveable problems:
- Article is new and long enough
- The article relies on sources that are mostly interviews, such as the Dreaper BBC source, which is used at least four times. The blurb relies on Lote's son and herself mentioning this fact when interviewed. This falls as WP:PRIMARY, and I can pass this despite of this, but others may not. The Telegraph is behind a registerwall but can be used AGF.
- Article is presentable
- Some sources contradict each other. The 2008 Express and Star reference states she retired at 88 years old. The video cited in the hook states she quit at 95, while the 2020 Express and Star reference states 90s. I'd assume the newer Express and Star is more updated, but maybe this should be in the prose that she retired in 2008, but had continued exercising herself until she was 95? I assume that what was meant?
- Hook is interesting and short enough.
- Image is licensed appropriately; impossible to find a free source of Lote as she is now dead.
- QPQ is waived as creator only has 2 DYKs.
Howard the Duck (talk) 12:04, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
2024 MLS expansion draft
( )- ... that San Diego FC, Major League Soccer's newest team selected five new players during the 2024 MLS expansion draft?
- Source: "San Diego FC: 2024 MLS Expansion Draft results". Major League Socccer. December 11, 2024. Retrieved December 12, 2024.
- ALT1: ... that Heine Gikling Bruseth, Hamady Diop, Jasper Löffelsend, Hosei Kijima, and Thiago Andrade were selected in the 2024 MLS expansion draft by San Diego FC? Source: "San Diego FC: 2024 MLS Expansion Draft results". Major League Socccer. December 11, 2024. Retrieved December 12, 2024.
- Reviewed:
Demt1298 (talk) 00:50, 13 December 2024 (UTC).
- Neither hook is interesting to a broad audience, as outside of football/soccer fans, the hook is unlikely to be perceived as interesting or unusual. Please provide more accessible hooks that can attract or interest even non-MLS fans. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- @SounderBruce, BeanieFan11, and Gonzo fan2007: Is it okay if any of you propose alternate hooks, if it is possible? Also pinging Demt1298 and Motdattan for their input. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:10, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Both hooks are pretty boring, even to this soccer fan. How about this ALT2: ... that the 2024 MLS expansion draft took place at a shopping center? Source: San Diego Union-Tribune SounderBruce 00:29, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe ALT3 ... that the 2024 MLS expansion draft featured only five selections? – the next would need to be added, but perhaps ALT4 ... that the 2024 MLS expansion draft featured the selections of a Norwegian, a Senegalese, a German, a Japanese, and a Brazilian – and no one else? BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:07, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- I like SounderBruce's suggestion the most. Just waiting for a response from the nominator before proceeding. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:09, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- I mean as a soccer fan, I don't know why the fact it was at a shopping mall would make it interesting, but I also understand my suggestions were boring, so I don't know I should be the one who defines what is interesting to soccer fans. Demt1298 (talk) 19:58, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- I like SounderBruce's suggestion the most. Just waiting for a response from the nominator before proceeding. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:09, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- @SounderBruce, BeanieFan11, and Gonzo fan2007: Is it okay if any of you propose alternate hooks, if it is possible? Also pinging Demt1298 and Motdattan for their input. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:10, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Article is new enough, long enough, and adequately sourced. QPQ not needed for a nominator with less than five nominations. The hook is supported in-text, but the relevant sentences lack a footnote: this will need to be fixed before the nomination is approved. More worryingly, the "Format" section appears to be a very close paraphrase of the source. The paraphrasing will need to be addressed for the nomination to succeed. If you need any assistance, don't hesitate to ask a copyright expert. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:19, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging nominator Demt1298 or our resident MLS expert SounderBruce for help on the close paraphrasing issue. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:11, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Rulesets cannot avoid paraphrasing due to the need to explain the exact rules and not misrepresent the subject. FWIW, Earwig only has 7.5% confidence and most of the hits were specific terms or names of mechanisms that cannot be changed; the one outlier is "end of the season", which could be tweaked. SounderBruce 07:17, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Nikkimaria: Given the above, does the article have close paraphrasing to you, or would the wording slide per WP:LIMITED? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:30, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Earwig checks only direct copying, not close paraphrasing. I think what's present goes beyond LIMITED, but there is also the option of quoting directly if necessary. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:04, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 11
Step by Step (Braxe + Falcon song)
( )- ... that for their debut single "Step by Step", the French touch music duo Braxe + Falcon created a "downtempo ballad with acoustic drums" in divergence from the traditional French house club-style music?
- Source: https://www.musicradar.com/news/braxe-falcon-interview – "We finished Step By Step first and that was an important song for us because it’s a downtempo ballad with acoustic drums. We didn’t want to come back with your typical French house 125bpm format – we’ve done that already and are not excited by that type of music anymore, so we felt it was crucial to push this kind of track as part of our first collaborative project."
- Reviewed:
BarntToust 14:16, 11 December 2024 (UTC).
- I'll take on this one, to pay it forward on how quickly my first DYK nom got reviewed.
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing: - Need to source the genre (per WP:EXPLICITGENRE). The personnel section should also be cited, whether if it is to an online listing of the song or the EP's liner notes.
- Neutral: - Wish I could give a check mark with comments, but this template does not allow that. I'd like to see a little more about the song's lyrical content, if you could find information on it? No worries if not.
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- Other problems: - When I first ran Earwig on the article, it gave it a copyvio score of 62.9%. While a second run reduced it down to an acceptable 21.3%, I think that the overquoting in the article's reception section should be addressed before it is promoted to DYK. I'd suggest taking a look at WP:CRS for tips on how to consolidate things, but the key is to try and link quotes together by their subject like you did in the article's lead (e.g. "Critics praised the song for its "breezy" instrumention.")
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting: - I'm not convinced of this hook's interesting-ness. Per WP:DYKINT, a hook needs to be intriguing to a person with "no special knowledge or interest", but this hook requires a reader to be familiar with the conventions of "traditional French house club-style music". The information about the music video seems pretty interesting though, perhaps "...that the music video for "Step by Step" stars a 12-year old professional skateboarder?" or something in that vein?
QPQ: None required. |
Overall: Article is new enough and was promoted to GA within the past week. However, there are few issues with the article's prose: "French touch" being the song's genre must be sourced, the personnel section lacks a citation, and there's a bit of WP:OVERQUOTE in the article reception section. The given hook is also not particularly interesting in my opinion; I've suggested an alternative idea, but a new hook should be created in any case. In any case, good job on your first GA and your first DYK nomination, as far as I can tell :) Leafy46 (talk) 16:17, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- The nominator responded to this review on my personal talk page, and has agreed with an alternate hook. How does "ALT1: ...that the music video for "Step by Step" stars a 12-year old professional skateboarder?" (Source) sound? Leafy46 (talk) 17:36, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- I also see that you proposed "ALT1a: ... that the music video for Braxe + Falcon's debut single "Step by Step", directed by Toru Tokikawa, stars 12-year-old skater Ginwoo Onodera, who is the youngest athlete ever to sign with Nike?" — I'll put this here too just so we can consolidate everything, but I personally think less is more when it comes to DYK hooks in general. Leafy46 (talk) 17:39, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator accepted the alternate hooks on my personal talk page, so I'll approve ALT1 and ALT1a for whichever administrator comes down the line to choose from! Leafy46 (talk) 17:44, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Any mistakes in the GA review are mine, sorry. // Chchcheckit (talk) 12:58, 15 December 2024 (UTC) (the reviewer)2
- @Leafy46 and BarntToust: any person who proposes a hook cannot approve it, so another reviewer is needed for ALT1 and ALT1a. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:30, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- New reviewer needed for ALT1 and ALT1a. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:15, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29 and BlueMoonset: Terribly sorry about that, I didn't realize that was a rule. Could ALT1a at least be moved forward then, given that it was written by the nominator themselves? I don't want to hold this nomination back simply because of an error on my part given that it's been in the limbo for quite a bit, and I have otherwise completed a review of the article's prose. Leafy46 (talk) 18:21, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- I personally wouldn't approve ALT1a as it's a rather complex hook with too many details. It mentions too many names and seems to lack focus on what it actually wants to focus on: the 12-year-old skateboarder, or Onodera being the youngest athlete to sign with Nike. If the nominator likes ALT1 itself, then it can be approved. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:07, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: They have approved of ALT1 here. I'm a bit baffled that this was unapproved given that ALT1 was essentially my paraphrasing of what the nominator wrote (which is what I have listed as ALT1a), but I understand that DYK is a bureaucracy that has its own regulations for quality's sake. Leafy46 (talk) 17:40, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5:, can confirm, I give wholehearted approval. You're good to pass if there are no other concerns, which in that case do ping me and I will address them. BarntToust 18:46, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- I personally wouldn't approve ALT1a as it's a rather complex hook with too many details. It mentions too many names and seems to lack focus on what it actually wants to focus on: the 12-year-old skateboarder, or Onodera being the youngest athlete to sign with Nike. If the nominator likes ALT1 itself, then it can be approved. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:07, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
1,10-Decanediol
( ) 3D model of 1,10-Decanediol- ... that 1,10-Decanediol could function as an inhibitor of soil nitrification?
- Reviewed:
金色黎明 (talk) 12:20, 11 December 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Hey 金色黎明, so nice see you here on enwiki! First, the DYK hooks should follow the same format as on zhwiki and wrap the eligible article in bold markup. I have made those adjustments for you and added a link to nitrification, so no worries there. Most of the sources are offline academic references, and I will AGF regarding them. Image is freely licensed. The Google Patents source backs the hook fact, although I am not a 100% sure if it is a reliable source. It is also just moderately interesting imo, but since the rest of the article is much more technical, I do not believe a better hook can be formulated, so I will get it a pass. This is your second DYK nomination, so no QPQ is needed. Good to go! —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 13:09, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- 金色黎明, as Prince of Erebor notes, this hook is only moderately interesting; perhaps it could be made more interesting if it goes into more detail about what inhibiting soil nitrification does. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:54, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 12
Mark Hearld
( )- ... that a Christmas card featuring "a hand-coloured winter thrush" by artist Mark Hearld was included in a 2021 exhibition of Christmas greetings by modern British artists?
- Source: "How to get my ho-ho-ho mojo back? In their print room, Pallant House in Chichester have mounted an exhibition, Christmas Greetings by Modern British Artists. Here are more than a hundred offerings from Edward Bawden, Ben Nicholson, John Piper and John Craxton. There is a marvellous David Jones engraving of a candlelit mass and Emily Sutton’s cat that got the Christmas pud. Ed Kluz, whose architectural drawings lean towards the gothic (follow him on Instagram), gives us a lovely, lonely city church with a Star of Bethlehem above. Ben Nicholson’s Christmas card of 1939 is a marbled, modernist grid with coolly geometric snowballs, while Gary Hume, once a YBA, moulds a snowman of minimal spheres. Barnett Freedman goes wassailing in his lithographic Christmas card of 1953, Edward Bawden’s linocut lion rampages through the presents and Mark Hearld’s hand-coloured winter thrush rings the round robin changes. There’s a bookmark-shaped Christmas card by Enid Marx wishing recipients not Merry Christmas, but a Happy New Year. Perhaps she was running even later than I am." The Spectator
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jordan Watkins
- Comment: For Christmas Eve/ Christmas Day
Thriley (talk) 20:35, 17 December 2024 (UTC).
- Doing... ミラP@Miraclepine 23:20, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Interesting: - Not concise enough; see below.
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Moved from draftspace five days before nom and sized at 2012 B. Page is reliably sourced and everything is verified. The lede is short, but consider this fix optional. Wasn't sure if the "thrush" was intriguing, but the weirdness and linking of the word helps. However, the hook doesn't feel concise enough and I'm having trouble making a hook that doesn't duplicate "Christmas card" and isn't short, but these two fit the bill enough:
- ALT1: ... that one of the designs shown at an all-Christmas card exhibition was "a hand-coloured winter thrush" by artist Mark Hearld? Source: Same as ALT0
- ALT2: ... that "a hand-coloured winter thrush" by artist Mark Hearld appeared on one of the Christmas cards for a specialised exhibition?Source: Same as ALT0
Oh, and I found another one while checking at Earwig, it's more interesting and this is in case it's not done in time for Christmases Eve or Day.
- ALT3A: ... that Mark Hearld works "with the idea of the artist working as a designer rather than making images to stick in a frame"? Source: He has also been strongly influenced by mid-twentieth century art and design, “with the idea of the artist working as a designer rather than making images to stick in a frame”.
- ALT3B: ... that artist Mark Hearld works "with the idea of the artist working as a designer rather than making images to stick in a frame"?
@Thriley: Thoughts? ミラP@Miraclepine 00:23, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your review. I’m going to add a bit more to the article. There’s some good potential hooks about his home I’d like to add. Thriley (talk) 06:31, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Thriley: You're welcome. I'll follow this page and recommend adding to the lede. ミラP@Miraclepine 04:16, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Jack Browning
( )- ... that in 2022, college football player Jack Browning was named All-Mountain West Conference at three different positions?
- Source: SDSU website ("Also earned first-team all-MW accolades at punter by Pro Football Focus, Phil Steele Magazine and College Football Network, and as a kickoff specialist by College Football Network, and a fourth-team honoree at kicker by Phil Steele Magazine")
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mohamed Aw-Ali Abdi & Template:Did you know nominations/Anthony E. Wills
- Comment:
Will complete QPQ within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:39, 12 December 2024 (UTC).
- Intresting, factual, QPQ done, earwig doenst flag anything major. Good job Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:46, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- I have temporarily pulled the hook from Prep as the above review is incomplete and did not check all of the DYK criteria, particularly with regards to article newness, length, or referencing. Pulling to give OlifanofmrTennant an opportunity to provide a more complete review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:59, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 13
Valdez Creek
( )- ... that despite being mined since the early 20th century, the mother lode for Valdez Creek has not been found?
- Source 1: Jane Suhey's MsC thesis, https://scholarworks.alaska.edu/handle/11122/14973, pages 11-12
- Source 2: Geologic Report RB04EXE-1, Avalon Development Corp., https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1023109/000113717104001167/georeport.htm, pages iv & 33
- Source 3: Alaska's Mineral Industry: Special Report 77, page 107, https://dggs.alaska.gov/webpubs/dggs/sr/text/sr077.pdf
- Reviewed:
Subarcticsensing (talk) 19:37, 20 December 2024 (UTC).
- @Subarcticsensing: New enough (expansion started Dec 13), long enough, no QPQ needed. However, this slightly falls short of a 5x expansion: the revision from before your expansion was 927 B, compared to the current revision with 4333 B, which is only about 4.6x expanded. If you are able to expand the article a bit more, I will approve this. Furthermore, I slightly question the sourcing of the hook fact—per WP:SCHOLARSHIP, masters theses are usually not reliable, unless they have been cited a lot. A different source will probably be needed. Hook itself is interesting, and article is otherwise quite well-done. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 21:55, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Vigilantcosmicpenguin: Thanks for the feedback and quick turnaround. I did some more expansions on what I could do tonight, so it's at 5312 chars for now. I added another source from Avalon Development Corp. in the lead dated in 2004, which is saying that there's strong evidence for more gold that hasn't been found. Could play with the wording on the first iteration. Most sources I've been through have said things along the line of "there is strong evidence for more gold" but none have gone so far to say that it hasn't been found, which I understand as authors hedging their bets on if it actually exists. The citation that Suhey uses is from 1981, so it's a bit dated, and the other citation that they give doesn't seem to be published yet. Subarcticsensing (talk) 03:53, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Subarcticsensing: Sorry I haven't gotten back to this until now; I must have missed the ping. I can confirm that the article has now been expanded 5x. As for the hook, perhaps I could suggest a phrasing like:
ALT0b: ...that although Valdez Creek has been mined since the early 20th century, surveys suggest a high chance of undiscovered gold?
This reflects the statement in the latter source (Avalon Development Corp.).— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 05:10, 3 January 2025 (UTC)- @Vigilantcosmicpenguin: Apologies for the slow reply, I fell ill over the new year. I like that alt. I found a better source of the amount of gold that has been mined, that way the thesis doesn't need to be referenced in the DYK. I added it in the sources above. How does this sound:
ALT0c: ...that although over half a million troy ounces of gold have been mined from Valdez Creek since the early 20th century, surveys suggest a high chance that more is undiscovered?
Subarcticsensing (talk) 21:59, 9 January 2025 (UTC)- ALT0c is interesting, cited inline, and verified in sources. Approving ALT0c. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 22:42, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Vigilantcosmicpenguin: Apologies for the slow reply, I fell ill over the new year. I like that alt. I found a better source of the amount of gold that has been mined, that way the thesis doesn't need to be referenced in the DYK. I added it in the sources above. How does this sound:
- @Subarcticsensing: Sorry I haven't gotten back to this until now; I must have missed the ping. I can confirm that the article has now been expanded 5x. As for the hook, perhaps I could suggest a phrasing like:
- @Vigilantcosmicpenguin: Thanks for the feedback and quick turnaround. I did some more expansions on what I could do tonight, so it's at 5312 chars for now. I added another source from Avalon Development Corp. in the lead dated in 2004, which is saying that there's strong evidence for more gold that hasn't been found. Could play with the wording on the first iteration. Most sources I've been through have said things along the line of "there is strong evidence for more gold" but none have gone so far to say that it hasn't been found, which I understand as authors hedging their bets on if it actually exists. The citation that Suhey uses is from 1981, so it's a bit dated, and the other citation that they give doesn't seem to be published yet. Subarcticsensing (talk) 03:53, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Madagascar banana
( )- ... that there are only three mature Madagascar banana trees?
- Source: "Only five mature individuals of E. perrieri have been previously identified in the whole of Madagascar, and a recent survey has suggested that now only three of these may be left (Analavelona, Ampefy and Maintirano areas)." https://www.kew.org/read-and-watch/madagascan-banana
ALT1: ... that the Madagascar banana is critically endangered?Source: https://www.kew.org/read-and-watch/madagascan-banana- Reviewed:
- Comment: No QPQ required as Laffuble will own this DYK as you can see from talk page. I (Chidgk1) just put it in for them and will deal with any questions they might be unsure about being relatively new to Misplaced Pages
Chidgk1 (talk) 16:13, 16 December 2024 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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QPQ: None required. |
Overall: Hello Laffuble, welcome to DYK, I hope you have a wonderful time here! I have a few concerns regarding the article which I will outline below, and will ping Chidgk1 since there are outstanding inquiries about the state of this article:
ALT0 is truthfully the most interesting of the two hooks proposed. Plenty of things out there are critically endangered, it is a conservation category onto itself. The severely restricted population serves as a much better hook. However, the hook as it stands right now is not supported by the material within the article and the source, which states there are five mature individuals rather than three. I will strike ALT1 from consideration.
iNaturalist is not a good source for the plant's morphology, nor is Rarepalmseeds, which is a site with commercial interests. A much better source for that information is either a study or the original description, if it can be located. iNaturalist's image gallery being a source falls into WP:OR. Google Scholar is a helpful source for finding research papers regarding Ensete perrieri, if you're stuck finding trustworthy sources.
Earwig detects no copyvio issues, long enough, and new enough. I hope this can be of help to you! Ornithoptera (talk) 07:26, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
@Ornithoptera: We have made some changes - is it ok now?
- Chidgk1 My apologies but I see that you have simply replaced the problematic sources for the “Description” section, rather than consulting the source and making the necessary changes to the article using the information presented there. That will not be enough to allow for the article to pass scrutiny. Would you be able to take a look at the source rather than simply replacing the original citations? In addition, the hook has not been updated per my request, since it is not supported by the article text. Ornithoptera (talk) 19:02, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- I've taken a look at the cited article and the description for E. perrieri is as follows:
Ensete perrieri (Claverie) comb. nov. ; Musa perrieri P. Claverie in Comptes Rendus Acad. Sci. Paris 140 (1905), 1612, nomen, et in Ann. us. Colon. Marseille ser. 2, vol. 7 (1909), p. 74, descr. cum ic. t. 8.
, this will not serve as a viable source for the passage. I would be most ideal to first consult with the source before using it in the article. I noticed that you and Laffuble had issues with accessing sources, the Misplaced Pages library at WP:LIB, if you have made enough edits, can be a great resource since it has institutional access to several journals that can be of use. Ornithoptera (talk) 19:16, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- I've taken a look at the cited article and the description for E. perrieri is as follows:
@Ornithoptera: Thanks for explaining Misplaced Pages Library. Have added quote for hook - is hook OK now? If there are any remaining problems with the description please could you comment in the talk page section below this as it is easier to reply.Chidgk1 (talk) 08:02, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, Chidgk1, I really want to emphasize to you and Laffuble that you should both read the issues I have outlined with the article. Only a few significant edits that I have outlined have been addressed properly, I will break the issues down line by line so that it can be easier to guide you in going about the necessary edits.
- The text in the original description section has not been changed to match the source. The source was simply replaced, with the passage's text not significantly changed to address the new source. On top of this, Annales du Muśee colonial de Marseille does not explicitly identify this as E. perrieri. Unless the source is beyond a reasonable doubt that it is E. perrieri, it is not the most ideal. I would emphasize that it is most ideal to have the entire section re-written and updated to reflect sources that explicitly include a description of E. perrieri.
- Hi, Chidgk1, I really want to emphasize to you and Laffuble that you should both read the issues I have outlined with the article. Only a few significant edits that I have outlined have been addressed properly, I will break the issues down line by line so that it can be easier to guide you in going about the necessary edits.
Laffuble Are you able to deal with this? If you are at uni maybe the librarian there can advise? I don't think there is any rush now so if you cannot fix it please contact me after Xmas and I will root around in the Misplaced Pages library mentioned above.
- iNaturalist is not a reliable source. It is a social media site that provides valuable insight, but the information cannot be considered reliable as anyone can upload an observation and provide faulty information.
@Ornithoptera: You are right that most info on iNaturalist is from members of the public so should not be cited, however the few photos which they classify as "research grade" are reliable in my opinion. If you disgree I will be happy to start a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard so we can get more thoughts on it. Chidgk1 (talk) 06:32, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- I really want to assist this DYK make it through, but I really would like to have all necessary edits be done before I am alerted to allow for it to pass. Ornithoptera (talk) 03:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Laffuble and Chidgk1, has there been any adjustments to the article since we have had our last conversation? I don't believe there has been any activity since the 30th. In terms of the iNaturalist comment, "research grade" is a meaningless designation exclusive to the site, and has little bearing in many circles outside of that. Compare that concept with "reddit gold" or "subtweet." While it is important in some circles, I don't think it would be a meaningful piece of content for the article, and a statistic that can be in flux if the status of the observations is changed or if another is found. Ornithoptera (talk) 06:44, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @Ornithoptera:. I am busy now with a GA of mine which is being reviewed. Pretty sure no one else but me will be interested in writing about that coal-fired power plant here in Turkey. Totally guessing but Laffuble might be a student so perhaps busy with studies. Whereas I am surprised no one from the plants project seems to be interested in this - I will ask there one more time. Otherwise I might have time to look at this next week. If none of us have done anything by the end of next week feel free to close it off as out of time. Even if that happens your comments are still useful for the future so I don't think your time has been wasted. Chidgk1 (talk) 07:40, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Laffuble and Chidgk1, has there been any adjustments to the article since we have had our last conversation? I don't believe there has been any activity since the 30th. In terms of the iNaturalist comment, "research grade" is a meaningless designation exclusive to the site, and has little bearing in many circles outside of that. Compare that concept with "reddit gold" or "subtweet." While it is important in some circles, I don't think it would be a meaningful piece of content for the article, and a statistic that can be in flux if the status of the observations is changed or if another is found. Ornithoptera (talk) 06:44, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- I really want to assist this DYK make it through, but I really would like to have all necessary edits be done before I am alerted to allow for it to pass. Ornithoptera (talk) 03:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think that the statements about saving the Cavendish banana are mostly hype. Resistance factors potentially can be obtained from any species of Musa or Ensete, including members of the Musa acuminata AAA cultivar group.
- Also, elsewhere I have seen complaints that research grade at iNaturalist is too easily obtained, and can't be relied upon. Lavateraguy (talk) 16:18, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Decolonization is Not a Metaphor
( )- ... that the title of a paper calling for the return of the United States to Indigenous sovereignty has become a slogan for pro-Palestinian protestors?
- Source: Combination of
Indigenous sovereignty was never ceded, and the continued presence of settlers is essentially illegitimate.
and which explains how "Decolonization is Not a Metaphor". The paper itself as a primary source also supports the first part of the hook.
- Reviewed:
Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 05:29, 13 December 2024 (UTC).
Thus far, I have been unable to verify that the paper "calls for the return of the United States to indigenous sovereignty." Neither of the two sources you cite above appear to support the statement, they just say the paper calls for a stricter interpretation of the meaning of the word "decolonization", which is a very different thing. Gatoclass (talk) 22:28, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Gatoclass: That's a very good point. What about "views the United States as fundamentally illegitimate?" Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 22:39, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Again, you would need a source for that statement. Gatoclass (talk) 22:47, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Gatoclass: This is very verbose, but what about that the title of a paper describing the continued presence of non-indigenous in the United States as being illegitimate has become a slogan for pro-Palestinian protestors? The claim that settler presence in the United States is supported by the source, the only thing I've done is explained "settler" as being "non-Indigenous" because the average person would be more likely to understand that. Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 05:46, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Again, a quote from a source confirming the hook statement would be required at minimum. But these suggestions thus far all look a little tortured to me. How about keeping it simple and straightforward, something like:
- ALT4: ... that the title of a 2012 academic paper, "Decolonization is Not a Metaphor", has been adopted as a slogan by pro-Palestinian protestors? Gatoclass (talk) 06:20, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Gatoclass: Sure, that works. Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 06:22, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Gatoclass: This is very verbose, but what about that the title of a paper describing the continued presence of non-indigenous in the United States as being illegitimate has become a slogan for pro-Palestinian protestors? The claim that settler presence in the United States is supported by the source, the only thing I've done is explained "settler" as being "non-Indigenous" because the average person would be more likely to understand that. Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 05:46, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Again, you would need a source for that statement. Gatoclass (talk) 22:47, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
Having looked a little more closely at the article, I'm not sure your interpretation of the paper is accurate. Certainly, it's a difficult text to come to grips with - at least for me, as it contains a lot of academic jargon that tends to obscure the authors' meaning to a non-professional in the field. But for example, you state: "Tuck argues that ... because the existence of settlers on stolen land is illegitimate must be redressed by decolonization". Did he really say that? Because I would have thought that if he had, the paper would be more notorious than merely influential. On the other hand, if he is only saying that that's what decolonization must mean, he is simply defining a term rather than arguing in favour of it, and there is a world of difference between the two.
However, since most of the article is sourced directly to the paper itself, without clarifying quotes, it's hard to know whether your interpretation is accurate. I'm not even entirely sure if the paper itself doesn't count as a primary source here, which might also be problematic.
So, is there any chance you could provide some actual quotes from the paper, or better still perhaps, reliable secondary sources that have written about it, in order to clarify the point? Because I think it's obviously an important distinction to get right. Cheers, Gatoclass (talk) 06:54, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Gatoclass: The article is far from perfect and I welcome suggestions to improve it as I'm less experienced than I should be with writing from scratch.
- I looked into this when you raised it the first time. The closest thing in the text I can find right now is
We don’t intend to discourage those who have dedicated careers and lives to teaching themselves and others to be critically conscious of racism, sexism, homophobia, classism, xenophobia, and settler colonialism. We are asking them/you to consider how the pursuit of critical consciousness, the pursuit of social justice through a critical enlightenment, can also be settler moves to innocence - diversions, distractions, which relieve the settler of feelings of guilt or responsibility, and conceal the need to give up land or power or privilege.
(emphasis mine)- So, the authors explicitly acknowledge a need for settlers to give up land. Likewise, page 10 of the paper criticizes decolonial scholars that enable "settler moves to innocence". I will likely have to make the article more directly explain what Tuck and Yang said, with better inline citations.
- Also, Eve Tuck is a woman with she/her pronouns (at least on her website). Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 07:51, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
@Gatoclass: This is a bit of a drive-by comment (I haven't looked closely at the wiki article itself), but as someone from this academic discipline who has often seen this article cited/discussed in the field, I'd say it's completely accurate to say that "Tuck argues that ... because the existence of settlers on stolen land is illegitimate must be redressed by decolonization"
, that the article "views the United States as fundamentally illegitimate"
, and that "the return of the United States to indigenous sovereignty"
is what "decolonization" ought to mean. The impact of the article is more like "let's stop saying we're decolonizing when we're just close-reading a novel" than it is "let's decolonize the US for real immediately!" but I haven't seen any exaggerations or misinterpretation of its argument here. I do think ALT4 is the clearest and best hook, though. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 04:52, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, but we can't base content-related decisions on the testimony of wikipedia editors, we need reliable sources to verify content. So again, either clear quotes from the article that the authors are actually endorsing decolonization of the US, or critiques from reliable secondary sources supporting such an interpretation (although other interpretations would also have to be included if they exist to provide balance). Gatoclass (talk) 07:13, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
I have to agree with Gatoclass on this; plus I have some other concerns. What we have here is a summary of the paper, but not anything that meaningfully demonstrates why this topic is encyclopedic. A one sentence line saying the paper is influential isn't going to cut it. We need details on how it is influential and who is claiming it is influential. Additionally, we need to see different critical responses to this paper through quotes in published reviews, both positive and negative to meet our WP:POV policies. The current text relies too heavily on the paper itself which is inappropriate as the paper is the subject and is therefore a primary document in this case. Additionally, it isn't clear that the summation of the paper is entirely accurate and is not an original analysis of the paper which would run afoul of WP:SYNTH. What we need here is more reliance on critical analysis and reviews of the paper, and text which more closely aligns with the meaning in the sources without being so close as to be considered plagiarism. The use of clarifying quotes from the paper could also assist in this (ie let the paper speak for itself in key places). It's a difficult line to walk. Additionally, the current text of the article lacks any meaningful critical engagement with the text; to the point that I would consider this incomplete (ie fails WP:DYKCOMPLETE).
In short, we need a decrease in reliance on the paper itself as a cited reference and an increase in reliance on secondary sources about the paper with more critical engagement highlighted. A significant amount of work is needed before this can pass a DYK review. Aside from this, I think Alt4 is a good hook that is usable. It is verified to the cited reference and is interesting. I think these issues are solvable. Ping me when the article has been improved and needs a second look.4meter4 (talk) 20:38, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Update. In just doing a cursory look in google scholar, SAGE and JSTOR, there are many articles that cite and summarize Tuck and Yang's paper which could be used to source the summary. There are also multiple publications which respond to the work, both affirming and questioning the limits of its praxis. This type of critical commentary is exactly what is needed in this article. I suggest the nominator rewrite the summary based on these types of secondary sources, and create a critical reaction section. 4meter4 (talk) 04:02, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 15
The Man in the Yellow Tie
( )- ... that Brandon Routh found it easier to return for The Flash than he did to return for Legends of Tomorrow despite being a regular on the latter?
- ALT1: ... that the The Flash episode "The Man in the Yellow Tie" concludes a plotline established two years prior on a different show? Source: https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a40319869/the-flash-john-diggle-arrow/
- ALT2: ... that for The Flash episode "The Man in the Yellow Tie" both Tom Cavanagh and Matt Letscher reprise their role as Eobard Thawne? Source: https://comicbook.com/dc/news/the-flash-that-eobard-thawne-twist-in-the-man-in-the-yellow-tie-explained/
- ALT3: ... that the The Flash episode "The Man in the Yellow Tie" guest stars Matt Letscher and Tom Cavanagh as Eobard Thawne and Eobard Thawne respectively? Source: https://comicbook.com/dc/news/the-flash-that-eobard-thawne-twist-in-the-man-in-the-yellow-tie-explained/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jack Browning
- Comment: The first source is from a blog interview with Routh.
Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 03:08, 16 December 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Great hooks! I think ALT1 and ALT2 are most interesting, though I recommend removing "the The Flash episode" from each for concision/more of a surprising effect. I am approving ALT2 as properly cited as-is. The "two years" claim in ALT1 isn't entirely verified by the currently cited source, but (from the article) does verify it, so I'll say that's also approved.
I am requesting another reviewer take a look at this, since this is my first DYK review. By the way, OlifanofmrTennant, you are free to dispense commas more liberally throughout your (article) prose, which I have done for you here :) Toadspike 18:52, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Giving a second review as requested above. Verifying that the nomination was done on time, the article was long enough, and is free of close paraphrasing. The done QPQ, however, is slightly incomplete. OlifanofmrTennant forgot to also check for the article's newness (according to DYK requirements) and length. She also forgot to verify the hook and to check if it was cited inline. Given the issues, I would suggest replacing the provided QPQ with a more complete review of another article. More pressingly for this nomination, however, is the sentence verifying ALT2 (the only hook I'd personally approve) lacks a footnote: the relevant footnote is instead located in the next sentence. The ref has to be duplicated for DYK verification purposes. Otherwise, Toadspike did a pretty good job for a first review and I hope he takes the above second review for tips in their future reviews. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:55, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- I've been holding onto a few other QPQs so here is another: Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas (goose) I have taken your advise and rechecked the nomination and everything checks out Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 05:31, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Please make it clear in the original review, making sure to check all the DYK criteria listed in WP:DYKRI. Regarding Thomas (goose), the provided QPQ did not check for article length, only newness, so that has to be corrected for that QPQ to count as well. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:23, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- I've been holding onto a few other QPQs so here is another: Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas (goose) I have taken your advise and rechecked the nomination and everything checks out Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 05:31, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Giving a second review as requested above. Verifying that the nomination was done on time, the article was long enough, and is free of close paraphrasing. The done QPQ, however, is slightly incomplete. OlifanofmrTennant forgot to also check for the article's newness (according to DYK requirements) and length. She also forgot to verify the hook and to check if it was cited inline. Given the issues, I would suggest replacing the provided QPQ with a more complete review of another article. More pressingly for this nomination, however, is the sentence verifying ALT2 (the only hook I'd personally approve) lacks a footnote: the relevant footnote is instead located in the next sentence. The ref has to be duplicated for DYK verification purposes. Otherwise, Toadspike did a pretty good job for a first review and I hope he takes the above second review for tips in their future reviews. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:55, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: amended Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 11:57, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Silicon Island
( ) Silicon Island as of December 2024- ... that a multidisciplinary team comprising Bjarke Ingels Group, Hijjas Architects and Ramboll won a design contest for the Silicon Island, which is currently under construction?
- Source: "BIG, Hijjas, and Ramboll were selected as winners of Penang State Government’s international competition to design a master plan for Penang South Islands in Malaysia." -
- Reviewed:
- Comment: This is my first DYK nomination. Appreciate your feedback on this. Thanks.
hundenvonPG (talk) 02:45, 15 December 2024 (UTC).
- Article is long enough and new enough; no sourcing or content issues were found. Hook has good source and meets length and format criterion. QPQ is not required because nominator has less than 5 previous nominations. Image is original work of editor, released to Creative Commons under Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license; rollover tag is good.Orygun (talk) 03:35, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Orygun and HundenvonPenang: I personally don't find this hook very interesting; there's nothing very unusual about architects winning a design contest for buildings. Could another hook please be suggested? Thanks, ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:46, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29 and HundenvonPenang:: I validated article was new enough, sources were good, and hook met basic DYK criterion, but I am not an expert on this subject so I will let you two figure out what’s interesting.--Orygun (talk) 21:12, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback!
- @AirshipJungleman29: I'm not imaginative by any stretch, but sure, I'm giving another try.
- 1. Did you know that the Silicon Island in Penang was originally proposed to fund the upcoming Mutiara LRT?
- 2. Did you know that a plan to reclaim three islets in Penang was scaled down to just one—Silicon Island—after an intervention by Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim?
- @Orygun and HundenvonPenang: I personally don't find this hook very interesting; there's nothing very unusual about architects winning a design contest for buildings. Could another hook please be suggested? Thanks, ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:46, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
hundenvonPG (talk) 05:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 16
Dubai chocolate
( )- ... that Dubai chocolate has become so expensive, it is being smuggled and sold on the black market?
- Source: From border seizures to supermarket shelves: Dubai chocolate fever in Hungary, dailynewshungary.com, Man Caught Smuggling 45 Kg Of Dubai Chocolate Over The Swiss Border, falstaff.com, Dubai chocolate a global frenzy: Germans smuggle and queue up for hours in cold for these luxury Lindt bars indiatimes.com, The socials made me do it: The viral Dubai chocolate bar, ladlesandlinens.com
- Reviewed:
Killarnee (talk) 15:44, 21 December 2024 (UTC).
- Comments by Tbhotch
General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems:
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- Other problems: - See below
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting:
- Other problems: - See below
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: A newly created article that is long enough. No QPQ required. No copyvio issues.
- The hook is interesting, but the source in the article says "secondary market", not black market.
- There is a contradiction. The first section starts with "Fix Dessert Chocolatier was founded in Dubai in September 2022". Immediately below it says "Sarah Hamouda, who founded the company Fix Dessert Chocolatiers in the Emirate of Dubai in 2021, claimed to be the inventor of the Dubai chocolate". Ignoring the "Chocolatier(s)" inconsistency throughout the page, this first needs to be fixed.
- I added a few maintenance tags that need to be solved as well. (CC) Tbhotch 02:51, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
@Tbhotch: I've gone ahead and fixed several problems with the article, please have a look now. Thanks, jolielover♥talk 08:33, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Reviewing... (CC) Tbhotch 20:18, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Jolielover: We're missing the secondary market / black market thing. The cited source trademagazin says "The special candy can be bought for up to 250 thousand forints on the secondary market, according to a report by Pénzcentrum." I'm not an economist but the secondary market doesn't sound similar to the black market. (CC) Tbhotch 22:23, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Tbhotch: There is a primary market where stocks are rated and sold by the listed company itself and a secondary market where stocks are rated and sold at the stock exchange by the listed company independent traders like you and me. And there is a black market where illegal goods, goods without paying taxes, etc. are sold. I think the difference is quite clear.
- I have no idea why some newspapers use secondary market as a synonym for black market, maybe because of the word "black" like the controversy about the black in blacklist, e.g. . In this case, black market or at least when using secondary market linking that word to the article black market and not the article secondary market, is right. Btw, in German media, black market (Schwarzmarkt) is predominant.
- Thanks for your work on that. Killarnee (talk) 03:07, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation. My concern would be WP:DYKHOOK since the hook says "it is being smuggled and sold on the black market", which was what hooked me to review this article. When I reviewed the article it did say that it was smuggled and sold on the black market, but the coupled source (mentioned above) was saying "secondary market", which makes it less illegal and attractive for the general audience (i.e. "The hook should be likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest in the topic"). The other sources linked on top of this page just say this: "The smuggling operation unfolded over two separate incidents at the Nickelsdorf", "customs officials at the German-Swiss border stopped a man who was attempting to smuggle around 45 kilograms of the coveted 'Dubai chocolate' into Germany", "products from other brands with both the original Dubai chocolate and its many variations fetching high prices on the resale market", "Limited-edition bars are commanding exorbitant prices, with some enduring long queues and even resorting to smuggling", and the most relevant statement, "Dubai doesn't ship to the U.S. and there is a black market for these chocolate bars now, at exhorbitant prices" from this source that is not used in the article. Both the hook and the article must be in synchrony to be approved. (CC) Tbhotch 03:34, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Jolielover: We're missing the secondary market / black market thing. The cited source trademagazin says "The special candy can be bought for up to 250 thousand forints on the secondary market, according to a report by Pénzcentrum." I'm not an economist but the secondary market doesn't sound similar to the black market. (CC) Tbhotch 22:23, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- I think the hook is an overbording claim if it remains without an indication as to where this would be- the German Swiss border, maybe....! In fact checking how "expensive" it is, it isnt any more in Germany, and the claim apperas to be sensationalizing and not neutral.Wuerzele (talk) 18:29, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- I was going to make a similar comment to Wuerzele here, the article reads slightly promotional, with sentences like "She aimed to create chocolate bars that combined unique textures and flavors, focusing on the filling to set her company apart from competitors." There are other prose issues, such as not specifying which border is meant both times the word is used and never explaining what kadayif is. This source , which appears to be unreliable per WP:FORBESCON (written by a "Brand Contributor"), also does not verify the statement that bars are 100g, which is contradicted by the paragraph right above it. Taken together, I am not sure if this article is presentable enough for the main page at the moment. Toadspike 20:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Why not include the photo in the hook? Surtsicna (talk) 11:16, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
2014–15 College Football Playoff
( )... that the championship game of the inaugural College Football Playoff was the most-watched cable television broadcast in history? Source: https://espnpressroom.com/us/press-releases/2015/01/college-football-playoff-national-championship-espn/- ALT1: ... that Alabama, Florida State, Ohio State, and Oregon participated in the inaugural College Football Playoff?
- ALT2: ... that the first game of the inaugural College Football Playoff was the first edition of the Rose Bowl in which a team scored more than fifty points?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/NCAA Season 7 basketball tournaments, Template:Did you know nominations/Amata of Assisi
PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 23:41, 16 December 2024 (UTC).
- Should it be specified to be American history? The current wording is vague and doesn't state if it was worldwide or just in the US. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:35, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: the source wording is a little vague as well:
Ohio State’s 42-20 victory over Oregon at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas – averaged 33,395,000 viewers and an 18.2 US household rating, according to Nielsen, delivering both the largest audience and highest rating in cable television history.
The Nielsen rating is definitely US-only and I think the same is true for the viewers but it's not explicitly stated one way or the other. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 23:45, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: the source wording is a little vague as well:
- Given that it is an exceptional claim and given with the circumstances it will almost certainly find scrutiny on WT:DYK and/or WP:ERRORS, it may be for the best to propose a new hook using a totally different angle. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:49, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed now that additional hooks have been proposed; as this is the oldest nom on T:TDYK, I may take this on myself if Lily Phillips is kept.--Launchballer 15:33, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Given that it is an exceptional claim and given with the circumstances it will almost certainly find scrutiny on WT:DYK and/or WP:ERRORS, it may be for the best to propose a new hook using a totally different angle. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:49, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 18
Vĩnh Điện River
( )- ... that the Vĩnh Điện River is called Tứ Câu after Tứ Câu bridge, Cổ Mân in Cổ Mân village, and Mân Quang in Mân Quang village?
Cũng như nhiều sông khác, sông Vĩnh Điện chảy qua địa phương nào thì mang tên địa phương đó: sông Tứ Câu (đoạn sông từ cầu Tứ Câu xuống hạ lưu); sông Cổ Mân (đoạn qua làng Cổ Mân, phường Hòa Xuân, quận Cẩm Lệ); sông Mân Quang (đoạn qua làng Mân Quang, phường Hòa Quý, quận Ngũ Hành Sơn).
Like many other rivers, the Vĩnh Điện river carries the name of whatever locality it flows through: Tứ Câu river (the stretch of the river downstream of Tứ Câu bridge); Cổ Mân river (the stretch passing Cổ Mân village, Hòa Xuan ward, Cẩm Lệ district); Mân Quang village (the stretch passing Mân Quang village, Hòa Quý ward, Ngũ Hành Sơn district).- Reviewed:
MuDavid 栘𩿠 (talk) 03:48, 19 December 2024 (UTC).
- Hello, and welcome to DYK. Unfortunately, the hook as currently written does not meet WP:DYKINT. Specifically, as currently written, the proposed hook is unlikely to catch the attention or appreciation of Main Page readers. If you need any help in proposing another hook, please do not hesitate to reach out. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:46, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- I don’t see why not. What’s wrong with it? MuDavid 栘𩿠 (talk) 03:03, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Essentially, the hook as currently written is not "hooky". That is, it doesn't give a good reason for readers of the main page to click on the article to find out more. It doesn't catch attention, is a bit hard to understand, and doesn't seem to be very interesting if at all. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:17, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5 MuDavid ALT1 ... that the Vĩnh Điện River is a canal that was dug in the 1820s on the order of emperor Minh Mạng of the Nguyễn dynasty?
- ALT2 ... that the Vĩnh Điện River was used to transport sugar and cinnamon for international export in the 1840s? SL93 (talk) 00:27, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2 is a better hook and closer to what we are looking for. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:17, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, if you think that’s more interesting. MuDavid 栘𩿠 (talk) 02:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2 is a better hook and closer to what we are looking for. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:17, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Essentially, the hook as currently written is not "hooky". That is, it doesn't give a good reason for readers of the main page to click on the article to find out more. It doesn't catch attention, is a bit hard to understand, and doesn't seem to be very interesting if at all. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:17, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
Aon v Australian National University
( )- ... that in Aon v Australian National University, the High Court of Australia ruled that judges can deny amendments to pleadings if they conflict with case management priorities?
— MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:10, 18 December 2024 (UTC).
- @MaxnaCarta: New enough and long enough. QPQ present. Lyons p558 checks out as the source. (Have you thought about shortened footnotes with how often you cite that source?) I just wish the hook was a little more, uh, hooky. Right now, it's as dry as Mt Stromlo before the bushfires. Can we try something like this? Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 07:02, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Aon v Australian National University overturned a precedent that encouraged litigation-prolonging amendments to pleadings?
- @Sammi Brie: Thanks alot for reviewing. Footnotes will be changed if I nom for GA, definitely. Im happy with the proposed alt hook. Thanks! — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:28, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- For someone else to approve the ALT1 hook (same source) since I suggested it. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:51, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 20
Wu Zhong (general)
( )- ... that Wu Zhong is recognized as the youngest general in the Chinese People's Liberation Army after the title's first holder was stripped of it following his immigration to the Soviet Union?
- Source: 他是我军历史上最年轻开国将领:32岁晋升少将竟抛 - Sohu
Toadboy123 (talk) 00:56, 20 December 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on December 21
Sigma Boy
( )- ... that the song "Sigma Boy" is effective as an alarm tone?
- ALT1: ... that the song "Sigma Boy" has been claimed to be effective as a wake-up alarm tone?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ryusei Nishioka
- Comment: Not sure if this hook is bad or very bad. But it may work for April 1. (Hopefully I’ll come up with something better.)
Moscow Connection (talk) 23:58, 28 December 2024 (UTC).
- @Moscow Connection: In case you weren't aware, DYK rules changed a few months ago to require QPQs at the time of the nomination, rather than up to a week after. As such, please provided a QPQ promptly, as the nomination may be closed without further warning if one isn't given. Thank you. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:03, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, sorry. Give me 30 minutes. --Moscow Connection (talk) 02:50, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Done. --Moscow Connection (talk) 03:52, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 22
Legend of Aphroditian
( )- ... that the Legend of Aphroditian identifies the Greek goddess Hera with the Virgin Mary of Christianity?
- Source: Heyden, Katharina (2022). "The Legend of Aphroditian". In Early New Testament Apocrypha. pp. 115–127.
- ALT1: ... that the Legend of Aphroditian includes a rare physical description of Mary, the Mother of Jesus? Source: Same as above.
- ALT2: ... that the Magi in the Legend of Aphroditian commission a painting of the Virgin Mother and Child with which to replace pagan statues with? Source: Same as above.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Portrait of Toulouse Lautrec, in Villeneuve-sur-Yonne, with the Natansons
- Comment: QPQ pending.
For full disclosure, there is a chat on how much DYKFICTION extends at WT:DYK. IMO, it says "Creative work" which clearly means the likes of novel and film plot summaries, and a "broad" reading of fiction as "anything false" is clearly not merited, and there's an obvious connection to the real world anyway (making an icon in-story = encouraging that as a doctrine in real life to emulate by real-life people who made real-life paintings), but I've provided some alternate hooks regardless in case people feel that a hook is borderline.
Created by SnowFire (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 18 past nominations.SnowFire (talk) 04:42, 30 December 2024 (UTC).
- @SnowFire: Please provide a QPQ as soon as possible (it should have been at the time of the nomination), as the nomination may be closed without further warning if one is not provided soon. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:20, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- @SnowFire: Hooks are interesting in my opinion, especially the first one, which would be my preference; I wouldn't say that I share the concerns around DYKFICTION here, as I think it would make sense to treat ancient religious texts differently to, for instance, modern works of fiction. The article technically falls just outside of the seven-day newness period, though I think we can let this slip. QPQ is satisfied, and the article itself seems fine – my initial concern was the lack of diversity in sourcing, though a little bit of searching fails to bring up much of anything else, so these two sources would seem to be the only detailed treatments of the subject in English. My main query would be whether the page range of the source cited for the hook could be narrowed down (to one or two pages, if possible?). Otherwise all good to go, I think. – Michael Aurel (talk) 07:23, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Michael Aurel:. My interlibrary loan expired so I can't directly check the source again, but based on the citation I used in the article, it's cited to this section: "3.2 Mariology: Hera-Urania-Pege." If you have access to the source, should be pretty trivial to find the relevant range with that (and if you don't, I guess it's AGF anyway) - that section is just ~2 pages long to my recollection. (I used a style with section headers in this article as is probably obvious rather than page ranges, given the very helpful numbered sections making it easy to find the relevant material.) SnowFire (talk) 15:20, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Devarani and Jithani temples
( ) Rudra Shiva statue Jethani Temple ruins... that the Jithani temple (ruins pictured) may have collapsed under its own weight?
- Source: Bakker, Hans (1994). Observations on the History and Culture of Daksina Kosala (PDF). p. 258.
The enormous slabs of stone of the Jithani ruin give the impression that this temple was a not wholly successful experimental construction that finally collapsed under its own load
- ALT1:
... that a Rudra Shiva statue (pictured) within the Devarani temple has its body parts made out of animal figures?
Source: Majumdar, Susmita Basu (2003). "Tracing the Religio-Specific Traits in the Saiva Sculptures of South Kosala". Proceedings of the Indian History Congress. 64: 277–285. ISSN 2249-1937. A peacock with its plumage unfurled forms the ear and the earnings. The eyes are in the form of open mouth of a frog. A descending lizard forms the nose, the two hind legs of the animal form the eyebrows and the front legs form the nostrils of the image. A pair of fishes forms the moustache and the chin is shaped like a hideous crab. Both the shoulders are in the form of a makara (crocodile). On the chest two male human heads have been placed whereas, a larger human head forms the belly. Four female heads are placed (without moustaches) in semi circular fashion on the thighs (two each) out of which the two facing the front are in najali-baddha posture. The urdhvamedhra is made of the head and neck of a tortoise two bell like testicles are designed as forelimbs of the same animal. Two heads of lion form the knees. The identification of this icon is an over discussed problem. This sculpture being the only of its kind has led art historians to put forward as many identifications as possible but unfortunately its unconventional form rules out the scope of textual corroboration. At present it may be concluded that it is a Saiva sculpture. Multiplicity of the heads of Siva is not new to this region or other parts of northern India
ALT2: ... that that a Rudra Shiva statue (pictured) within the Devarani temple has a nose made out of a lizard figure, ears made out of peacock figures, while a crab forms the lower lip and chin?
Source: Majumdar, Susmita Basu (2003). "Tracing the Religio-Specific Traits in the Saiva Sculptures of South Kosala". Proceedings of the Indian History Congress. 64: 277–285. ISSN 2249-1937. A peacock with its plumage unfurled forms the ear and the earnings. The eyes are in the form of open mouth of a frog. A descending lizard forms the nose, the two hind legs of the animal form the eyebrows and the front legs form the nostrils of the image. A pair of fishes forms the moustache and the chin is shaped like a hideous crab. Both the shoulders are in the form of a makara (crocodile). On the chest two male human heads have been placed whereas, a larger human head forms the belly. Four female heads are placed (without moustaches) in semi circular fashion on the thighs (two each) out of which the two facing the front are in najali-baddha posture. The urdhvamedhra is made of the head and neck of a tortoise two bell like testicles are designed as forelimbs of the same animal. Two heads of lion form the knees. The identification of this icon is an over discussed problem. This sculpture being the only of its kind has led art historians to put forward as many identifications as possible but unfortunately its unconventional form rules out the scope of textual corroboration. At present it may be concluded that it is a Saiva sculpture. Multiplicity of the heads of Siva is not new to this region or other parts of northern India
AmateurHi$torian (talk) 20:58, 23 December 2024 (UTC).
- Reviewing... Flibirigit (talk) 16:56, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
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Overall: The article was created on December 22, and nominated on December 23 for DYK. Length and sourcing are adequate. The article is neutral in tone, and I found no plagiarism concerns. All of the hooks are reasonably interesting. ALT0 is not explicitly mentioned in the article with the source provided in this nomination. ALT1 and ALT2 are both mentioned in the article, but the sentences which support the hooks do not have citations directly at the end. These need to be added as per WP:DYKHFC. All images used in the article have a public domain license on the Commons. The nominated images are clear at a low resolution, both used in the article and would enhance their respective hooks. The QPQ requirement is complete, although the reviewer forgot the signature. Overall this is a good nomination, but some attention is needed for the hooks. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 17:38, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Added citations at the end of the sentences supporting ALT1 and ALT2. ALT0 is mentioned at the end of the first paragraph of the "history" section, with its source (Bakker, p. 258) at the end of the sentence.
- Furthermore, the article has been renamed since the nomination per this rationale, so the hooks would need to be updated:
- ALT0a: ... ... that the Jethani temple (ruins pictured) may have collapsed under its own weight?
- ALT1a: ... that a Rudra Shiva statue (pictured) within the Devrani temple has its body parts made out of animal figures?
- ALT2a: ... that a Rudra Shiva statue (pictured) within the Devrani temple has a nose made out of a lizard figure, ears made out of peacock figures, while a crab forms the lower lip and chin?
2025 Seattle Sounders FC season
( )- ... that the 2025 Seattle Sounders FC season will include a minimum of 42 games, including two international competitions? Source: The Seattle Times
SounderBruce 05:11, 22 December 2024 (UTC).
- I don't see how this hook is interesting to a non-specialist audience? It probably appeals to Sounders fans, but I'm not sure if even MLS fans will like it, let alone non-soccer fans. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:41, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think that fans of soccer, the world's largest sport, are not an insignificant audience. The number of planned games is unusually high for a team outside of Europe and Brazil. SounderBruce 02:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- You have a point, but most casual fans will not get the significance of this or the intricacies of schedules. It's reliant on rather specialist information (specialists in this case being dedicated soccer fans), and not all soccer fans are like that. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:57, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the 2025 Seattle Sounders FC season will include matches against teams from Guatemala, Brazil, Spain, and France? Source: The Seattle Times
- @Narutolovehinata5: Wonder if this would be better for a broad audience? SounderBruce 21:35, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm honestly not sure but I'm leaning towards it being marginal at best. It probably has wider interest than the original hook, but I imagine that it won't do all that well if this is the wording that gets featured on the main page. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:19, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- What about ALT2: ... that after winning the 2022 CONCACAF Champions League, the Seattle Sounders qualified to play in the 2025 FIFA Club World Cup in their upcoming season? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:56, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think this would work better: ... that the upcoming season for Seattle Sounders FC includes a tournament that they qualified for in 2022? SounderBruce 05:32, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- That sounds a lot better, although I might suggest removing the link to the FIFA Club World Cup given that too many links may divert readers away from the bolded link. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:21, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Why not bold link the whole thing, which would remove a pointless link (to the soccer team itself) while still retaining the link to the tournament, which would help readers understand the hook better:
- ALT3: ... that the upcoming season for Seattle Sounders FC includes a tournament that they qualified for in 2022? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 18:17, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- That works for me. @Narutolovehinata5: Will you finish the review? SounderBruce 02:09, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- That sounds a lot better, although I might suggest removing the link to the FIFA Club World Cup given that too many links may divert readers away from the bolded link. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:21, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- I think this would work better: ... that the upcoming season for Seattle Sounders FC includes a tournament that they qualified for in 2022? SounderBruce 05:32, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- What about ALT2: ... that after winning the 2022 CONCACAF Champions League, the Seattle Sounders qualified to play in the 2025 FIFA Club World Cup in their upcoming season? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:56, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm honestly not sure but I'm leaning towards it being marginal at best. It probably has wider interest than the original hook, but I imagine that it won't do all that well if this is the wording that gets featured on the main page. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:19, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the 2025 Seattle Sounders FC season will include matches against teams from Guatemala, Brazil, Spain, and France? Source: The Seattle Times
- The article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination. I couldn't find any close paraphrasing. The QPQ was done and is a complete review. Only ALT3 is approved as being likely to be interesting to non-specialist readers. The only concern is relatively minor: the sentences that support the hook don't have the referencing footnote; instead, they're located in the subsequent sentences. That will need to be addressed for DYK verification purposes. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:23, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 24
2024 drone sightings
( )- ... that news outlets reported drone sightings in August 2024 over US military bases in Germany, well before the major wave of sightings in the US in December 2024?
- ALT1: ... that news outlets reported drone sightings in November 2024 over US military bases in the United Kingdom, well before the major wave of sightings in the US in December 2024? Source: https://www.twz.com/air/multiple-drone-incident-just-occurred-over-usaf-fighter-base-in-england
- Reviewed:
Template:Did you know nominations/Boxheim Documents
- Comment: major overview article for drone sightings worldwide; just began article today.
Sm8900 (talk) 15:00, 24 December 2024 (UTC).
- This article is largely a piece of original research, combining sources that make no mention to other events. Its scope, as relates to the US sightings, is redundant with 2024 Northeastern United States drone sightings. Regarding UK drone sightings, it utilizes the deprecated Daily Mail (WP:DAILYMAIL). Regarding the German sightings, maybe there's something there. However, I'm not seeing enough sustained coverage to clear WP:NOTNEWS right now. Make some corrections, remove the bad sources, and make the scope more precise. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:27, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Pbritti:, I appreciate your valuable feedback. I have revised the article, and added citations from reliable sources, as you requested. I would welcome any comments on the revised version. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 16:41, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Sm8900: At the minimum, you must also appropriately link and bold the article you are nominating in both proposed hooks. Please do that and I'll look over the article again. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:53, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Pbritti:, ok, sounds fine. Done thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 17:01, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Sm8900: At the minimum, you must also appropriately link and bold the article you are nominating in both proposed hooks. Please do that and I'll look over the article again. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:53, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Pbritti:, I appreciate your valuable feedback. I have revised the article, and added citations from reliable sources, as you requested. I would welcome any comments on the revised version. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 16:41, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
@Sm8900: Sorry to be a grinch, but there are still outstanding issues. I have, as a courtesy, bolded the link in your hook. The other issues will be listed below:
- Citations are awkwardly spaced. Since you are an experienced editor (if not necessarily an experienced DYK nominator), I will ask you to fix this substantial formatting issue.
- The scope of the final section is, with the exception of the California arrest, fully overlapping with the other drone sightings article. That portion ought to be summarized more succinctly.
- Cutting down on redundant coverage may cause a length issue; consider adding further content on the German sightings and more clearly tying them and the UK sightings to the US events.
- You oscillate between "US" and "USA" within your hooks. Please pick one for consistency.
Please let me know if you require further guidance. ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:08, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Pbritti:, ok, as requested; 1) fixed spacing between refs. let me know if further work is needed. 2) made section on US events more concise. 3) added signficant additonal facts and details to section on Germany. 4) used US consistently. I hope thats helpful. Please free to continue your helpful feedback. --Sm8900 (talk) 17:39, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Sm8900,
seems fine to me.
is in no way an adequate QPQ review, so I have struck your inclusion of Template:Did you know nominations/Boxheim Documents above. You need to do a complete review of an article (Boxheim Documents, which is all done except for a hook disagreement, is not appropriate), and be sure to address all of the DYK criteria (newness, meets size requirement, hook interestingness and sourcing and length, article sourcing, etc.). See the reviewing instructions and the guidelines for further information. Best of luck! BlueMoonset (talk) 21:24, 24 December 2024 (UTC)- ok, no problem, glad to help. reviewed. C/1975 T2 (Suzuki–Saigusa–Mori). thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 21:57, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Sm8900,
- @Pbritti:, ok, as requested; 1) fixed spacing between refs. let me know if further work is needed. 2) made section on US events more concise. 3) added signficant additonal facts and details to section on Germany. 4) used US consistently. I hope thats helpful. Please free to continue your helpful feedback. --Sm8900 (talk) 17:39, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Formally requesting a second opinion due to the uncertainty about this article. ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:25, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 25
Scientific Research Institute of Medicine of the Ministry of Defense in Sergiyev Posad
( )- ... that Scientific Research Institute of Medicine of the Ministry of Defense in Sergiyev Posad was home to the Museum of Viruses and Rickettsiae?
- Source: Leitenberg, Milton; Zilinskas, Raymond A.; Kuhn, Jens H. (2012). The Soviet biological weapons program: a history. Harvard University Press. ISBN 978-0-674-04770-9 page 96
- ALT1: ... that the staff of Sergiyev Posad-6 were banned from using Moscow libraries? Source: Leitenberg, Milton; Zilinskas, Raymond A.; Kuhn, Jens H. (2012). The Soviet biological weapons program: a history. Harvard University Press. ISBN 978-0-674-04770-9. page 88
- ALT2: ... that Zagorsk-6 had the capacity to produce viral and rickettsial bioweapon agents on the small scale, but not in industrial quantities? Source: Leitenberg, Milton; Zilinskas, Raymond A.; Kuhn, Jens H. (2012). The Soviet biological weapons program: a history. Harvard University Press. ISBN 978-0-674-04770-9. page 98
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Håkon Balstad
©Geni (talk) 04:34, 31 December 2024 (UTC).
Sitaleshwar Temple
( )- ... that the Sitaleshwar Temple remained in worship even when it was in ruins with only the pillars of the outer pavilion surviving?
- Source: Fergusson, James. Picturesque illustrations of ancient architecture in hindostan. p. 34.
Even in its ruined state, however, it is still used as a place of worship, though not considered of great sanctity, and is dedicated to Siva; but whether originally so or not, appears to me extremely doubtful.
- ALT1: ... that James Fergusson described the pillars of the Sitaleshwar Temple as the "most elegant specimen of columnar architecture in India"? Source: Fergusson, James. Picturesque illustrations of ancient architecture in hindostan. p. 34.
Taking the whole together, I think I am correct in stating, that it is the most elegant specimen of columnar architecture in India; it is the most so, at least, that I have seen. Even more elegant, however, than the pillars, must have been the roof they were destined to support
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Du Toit's torrent frog
AmateurHi$torian (talk) 12:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC).
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Looking good except that the final sentence lacks a citation. I'm not sure if it's correct. Ref 1 says the lingam "was once accompanied by a sculpture of Shiva-Parvati", not that it was preceded by it.
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
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Overall: Always interesting to see new articles about Dharmic religion. Interesting to learn there's a "Lord of Coolness"! Both hooks are interesting. If forced to choose one, I would go with ALT1. Please take care with giving the full citation for sources so we know where the research was originally published, not just where it can be found online. MartinPoulter (talk) 17:50, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @MartinPoulter: I've fixed the inaccuracy in the final sentence, and added the citation. As for the full citations, it seems that you've already added them (thanks), but I'll keep it in mind for the future. AmateurHi$torian (talk) 18:27, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Problem fixed: this is good to go. MartinPoulter (talk) 18:51, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Scorsese Baby Daddy
( )- ... that SZA named a song after a well-known crime film director, but did not expect him to know about it hours after release?
- Source: Centeno, Tony M. (December 24, 2024). "SZA Freaks Out After Famed Director's Family Co-Signs Song from Lana LP". WHYI-FM. Retrieved December 26, 2024.
Elias 🦗🐜 07:41, 26 December 2024 (UTC).
- Comment I'm gonna suggest an alt, if you don't mind :).
- ALT1 ... that a song about desiring an emotionally unstable boyfriend is named after Martin Scorsese?
Articles created/expanded on December 26
The Hangover (Suzanne Valadon)
( )... that The Hangover by Toulouse-Lautrec was influenced by Aristide Bruant, modeled by Suzanne Valadon, and painted in front of Vincent van Gogh?- ALT1 ... that The Hangover by Toulouse-Lautrec, which features model Suzanne Valadon and the stylistic influence of Vincent van Gogh, was once displayed by Aristide Bruant in his nightclub?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Daniel Hermann (humanist); Template:Did you know nominations/Bitcoin buried in Newport landfill; Template:Did you know nominations/Christmas: A Biography; Template:Did you know nominations/The Heart Knows its Own Bitterness (Talmud)
Viriditas (talk) 10:46, 2 January 2025 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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- Cited: - As far as I can tell, cites don't appear immediately after the relevant sentences for the van Gogh and Bruant elements of the hook, ie. "Toulouse-Lautrec's friendship with singer and nightclub owner Aristide Bruant is thought to have influenced his development of The Hangover." and "Van Gogh was present in Lautrec's studio when he began painting The Hangover, and he continued to show interest in its development."
- Interesting:
- Other problems: - "Modeled by" doesn't feel like quite the right phrasing; it might suggest Suzanne Valadon created a model. Maybe "based on" to keep the verb+preposition pattern, or simply "depicts"?
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Enjoyed reading this, thanks for your work! Good to go after the minor fixes above. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 19:43, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- The cited material appears farther down in the paragraph, with the material about Bruant and Valadon referring to Perruchot 1960, Murray 1991, and Frey 1994. Although I cited others, I neglected to note that the Van Gogh material comes from Jacques Lassaigne which is based on several things: Van Gogh's letter, which scholars used to triangulate the dates of his stay in Paris before February 1888, and Valadon's own personal account of Van Gogh showing up every Saturday in Lautrec's studio, where he originally saw the painting. It's pretty complex and I should have chosen something a bit simpler. Looking at the hook up above, it may be best if I add a hook that is slightly less convoluted. For what it's worth "modeled by" is common usage on the Model (art) page and in most art books from the 20th century (see Google Books, it is used everywhere). You're an acknowledged DYK expert, and if you had trouble following the sources, others will as well, so I think it's best if I pick a more practical hook to work with. I will do that shortly, but I will add the Lassaigne cite now. Viriditas (talk) 11:00, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1 added. Let me know if you need me to change it. Viriditas (talk) 12:21, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Frederick W. Hinitt
( )- ... that Frederick W. Hinitt secured funding to build Carnegie libraries at two different colleges? Source: and
- ALT1: ... that two different colleges experienced fires while Frederick W. Hinitt was their president? Source: and
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tea in New Zealand
- Comment: If anyone is feeling especially generous, the total expansion is a little short of 5x (2254 B to 9862 B is 4.37x expansion)
PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 16:41, 27 December 2024 (UTC).
Battle of South Harting
( ) The Mercurius Aulicus reports on the skirmish in 1643- ... that according to the Mercurius Aulicus, 400 dragoons were routed by just 6 officers and a boy in 1643 during the English Civil War?
- Source: https://archive.org/details/historyofharting00gordiala - Gordon, Henry Doddridge (1877). The History of Harting. London: W. Davy. Pages 72–84
- ALT1: ... that according to the Mercurius Aulicus, in 1643 during the English Civil War, 400 dragoons were routed by just 6 officers and a boy? Source: https://archive.org/details/historyofharting00gordiala - Gordon, Henry Doddridge (1877). The History of Harting. London: W. Davy. Pages 72–84
- ALT2: ... that according to the Mercurius Aulicus, during the English Civil War, 400 dragoons were routed by just 6 officers and a boy in 1643? Source: https://archive.org/details/historyofharting00gordiala - Gordon, Henry Doddridge (1877). The History of Harting. London: W. Davy. Pages 72–84
- ALT3: ... that according to the Mercurius Aulicus, in 1643, 400 dragoons were routed by just 6 officers and a boy during the English Civil War? Source: https://archive.org/details/historyofharting00gordiala - Gordon, Henry Doddridge (1877). The History of Harting. London: W. Davy. Pages 72–84
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Added 4 total hooks as the basic underlying substance of all the hooks is by far the best thing to use for a DYK, but I'm not sure which order the information should be written to be most appealing? Use of the image is up for debate depending on if it is deemed interesting enough to be the image featured on DYK for a day. Also unsure of how to word the image caption.
TheBestEditorInEngland (talk) 19:08, 26 December 2024 (UTC).
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- Other problems: - Since the Mercurius Aulicus is a newspaper, its name should be italicized
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Overall: ~ L 🌸 (talk) 02:16, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- I appreciate the hook options provided, but I think ALT0 remains the best: it would work with an italicized title. (The article should probably also be revised to add the italics.) I also have two other concerns: 1, "Battle of South Harting" doesn't seem like the right name for the article, since all the sources just call it "a fight". And 2, I have concerns about the sourcing, which boil down to the fact that I don't think 15th-century propaganda is a reliable source.
- So, to break that down, there are five sources in the article:
- 1. Bacon 1878: This work of Victorian local history largely repeats the Mercurius Aulicus account (which it refers to as "a fight at South Harting"). It adds the corroboration that three soldiers were buried, but otherwise just reports that there is "a vague local tradition that there had been some fight" and hedges the Mercurius Aulicus with verbiage like "it appears..." and "it seems...".
- 2. Gordon 1877: This Victorian history is nearly identical to Bacon 1878, also consisting of just the parish register, a "local tradition that there was once a fight", and a transcription of the Mercurius Aulicus.
- 3. Thomas-Stanford 1910: Also says there was "a fight", and using the framing of "it seems", quotes the Mercurius Aulicus. It then goes on to say "The number of slain is probably exaggerated," noting that the parish register only records 3 soldiers buried.
- 4. Barber & Hall 1985: The only halfway modern source here, and as far as I can work out, it does not say a single word about South Harting. I assume it is used to support background information about Norton and Arundel, but the placement of the citation makes this very unclear.
- 5. Birkenhead & Heylin 1643: This is the acknowledged propaganda piece that started it all.
- It does sound like there was a fight at South Harting which then passed into local legend and has attracted notice from later local historians. But I also think our article needs to be as careful as the sources are, in terms of highlighting which information comes from the obviously non-neutral propaganda source, and I don't think the current state of the article makes that clear enough.
- Could you give it a try revising the article to have a bit more rhetorical distance from the NPOV primary source? And please ping me when you think it is ready for another look. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 02:16, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for looking over my DYK nomination and the article in general.
- I have now added italics to Mercurius Aulicus in both the DYK nomination and the main article.
- As for the title of the article being "Battle" of South Harting, the Merciurius Aulicus does not refer to it with anything similar to battle, fight, skirmish, etc, and merely recounts the events and records it as taking place in South Harting (it does refer to a "hurly-burly" having occured though, for what that is worth...). The 2nd source (Gordon 1877) firstly refers to it as "a battle at South Harting" on page 74 and from then on refers to it as a fight. Since neither force was operating under a larger body and since this was not part of a wider battle, calling it a skirmish in hindsight seems incorrect, although the second engagement at South Harting the following month certainly fits this criteria. I have changed the term "skirmish" in the article to "engagement" as I feel this better fits what occurred. I'm unsure as to what else we could title the article itself though as the contemporary source, as is often the case in the English Civil Wars, does not refer to this engagement using any words like fight, storming, battle, skirmish, etc. Many battles and other engagements at the time were referred to as fight however, and could be the origin of "fight in the Culvers" at South Harting. Off the top of my head, the Battle of Worcester was often referred to as the 'Worcester Fight'. Many of the smaller engagements and skirmishes of the English Civil War on the English Misplaced Pages are simply titled "Battle of " as I feel contemporary naming of insignificant battles was not often recorded. Because of this, I feel like many small engagements of the English Civil War which have articles on the English Misplaced Pages are titled "Battle of" for the sake of simplicity and going along with the status quo. If the article was named "Fight of South Harting" or "Skirmish of South Harting" it would be the only article named as such, although it isn't the only small engagement fought during the war to have an article.
- Looking at the Misplaced Pages article for Battle, the lede states that "A battle is an occurrence of combat in warfare between opposing military units of any number or size. A war usually consists of multiple battles. In general, a battle is a military engagement that is well defined in duration, area, and force commitment. An engagement with only limited commitment between the forces and without decisive results is sometimes called a skirmish."
- The duration of this engagement was relatively short and is defined to the night of 23–24 November 1643, the area is defined as South Harting village, and the force commitment is given by Mercurius Aulicus (if we are to take the figures given at face value). It appears all the forces of each side were engaged in this and the result is given by Mercurius Aulicus as being decisively won by the Royalists. Based on this, and 2nd source firstly referring to it as a battle, I think it may be acceptable to leave the article title as Battle of South Harting, at least for now, but would like to know what you think of this.
- As for reliability of the sources used concerning the engagement itself, I completely agree. It is the only source in existence, as far as anyone is aware, that relates to this engagement and is contemporary, besides the parish register entry for the 3 burials which only corroborates that some sort of engagement took place there on that date. Knowing this, I think it should be acceptable to use the Mercurius Aulicus as the primary source for the details of the engagement as long as, as you state, ample rhetorical distance is implemented and the article doesn't portray the M.A. account as being gospel. I have already done this with the lede, but will do this with the rest of the article too.
- I will also fix the references so it is much clearer to understand what is being used to support what, and hopefully this will make the article appropriately unbiased so as to feature on DYK. Many thanks for your analysis and I will act on it now.
TheBestEditorInEngland (talk) 10:19, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Crabs for Christmas
( )- ... that "Crabs for Christmas", a song about a man asking Santa Claus for crab as a Christmas gift, became a Maryland holiday tradition?
- Source: Worthington, Aliza (December 12, 2023). "The enduring Baltimore charm of David DeBoy's 'Crabs for Christmas,' more than 40 years after initial release". Baltimore Fishbowl. Retrieved December 25, 2024.
- ALT1: ... that a radio station refused to air "Crabs for Christmas" due to its use of the Baltimore accent? Source: DeNike, Lisa (December 14, 1981). "His Christmas record won't make him crabby". The Evening Sun. p. B7. Retrieved December 25, 2024 – via Newspapers.com.
- ALT2: ... that the writer of "Crabs for Christmas" joked that it contributed to Baltimore's population decline? Source: "Our very own Bawlmer, hon, has been immortalized on CD". The Baltimore Sun. November 25, 2001. Retrieved December 26, 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mahra Al Maktoum
charlotte 06:12, 26 December 2024 (UTC).
- Hi. Made a copyedit here before my review; feel free to revert some of the changes if you don't agree with them
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Overall: AGF on all the offline sources. Baltimore Sun review has no citation though so you would want to fix that. ALT2 is interesting, but a bit misleading -- it does not convey the jocular nature of the writer's comments. The rest are also fine, although I recommend rewriting them as well to bring out more of their hookiness. Elias 🦗🐜 07:22, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- @PSA: thank you for the copyedits. I'm unsure what you mean by the review being unsourced; the quotation is in the cited source ("His Christmas record won't make him crabby"), although it is a stretch to call it positive, so I removed that from the lead. I've replaced "said" with "joked" in ALT2 and would welcome any copyedit on the hooks. charlotte 04:17, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hm, first off my bad for the "unsourced" comment. Second, my issue with ALT0 right now is that it is a bit too wordy. Perhaps you can trim the hook so that it just focuses on "a song about crabs as a Christmas gift". That's all I have for now Elias 🦗🐜 05:53, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 27
2024 Estlink 2 incident
( ) M/S Hessu, ordered to do the job on New Year's Eve- ... that during investigation for breaking a power cable, pumping out feces and bilgewater from the Eagle S took a day?
Kyseiset huoltotoimet kestävät arviolta kaksi päivää.
– Tyhjennykset tapahtuvat tämän päivän aikana, ja huomenna viedään vesi.- ALT1: ... that the nomination wizard doesn't have an option to delete alt hooks? Source: a
- Reviewed: no previous DYK's
NotAGenious (talk) 17:55, 2 January 2025 (UTC).
- Hi @NotAGenious: nice work on your first DYK. This article, over 5x expanded from 775 to 11062 characters, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, and copyvio-free. QPQ not needed. The hook is interesting and sourced to the Finnish newspaper Iltalehti (which checks out, per Google Translate), however per WP:DYKHOOK the claim in the hook also has to be in the article. Can you add this fact somewhere in the article?
- The hook also flows flows a little awkwardly. Might I suggest
- ALT1: ... that during investigation for breaking a power cable, it took a day to pump out all the feces and bilgewater from the Eagle S?
- Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 01:42, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- I don't know how long this procedure typically takes, but I feel sorry for the guy who has to inspect all that bilge and sewage. kencf0618 (talk) 16:00, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 28
Special Operations Brigade (PLA Navy Marine Corps)
( ) 7th Marine Brigade members conducting an excercise- ... that on May 5, 2017, the 7th Marine Brigade (pictured) captured three Somali pirates and handed them in to the Somali authorities?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: The draft was made by me, User:Buckshot06 published it for me
Additionally 7th Marine Brigade is an alternate name for the Special Operations Brigade (PLA Navy Marine Corps), also known as the Jiaolong commandos as of nominating it for Dyk, the article was published exactly 7 days ago so if i have to may I request the 7 day limit be extended
Created by Thehistorianisaac (talk) and Buckshot06 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.Thehistorianisaac (talk) 13:01, 4 January 2025 (UTC).
- Note: I have replaced the word "police" in Thehistorianissac's potential hook with the word "authorities." There is no single Somali Police - most are a bunch of clan militia; most are a total mishmash of various feuding armed groups. The information available is not sufficient to even guarantee that the persons concerned were handed over to the Somali Federal Police, the bunch that exploits and rapaciously profits from the security needs of the inhabitants of Mogadishu. Buckshot06 (talk) 21:05, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Helvis of Ramla
( )- ... that Helvis of Ramla was the progenitor of the powerful crusader Ibelin family?
- Source: Hans E. Mayer, "Carving up Crusaders: The Early Ibelins and Ramlas", in Outremer: Studies in the History of the Crusading Kingdom of Jerusalem Presented to Joshua Prawer, ed. Benjamin Z. Kedar, Hans E. Mayer, and R.C. Smail (Yad Izhak Ben-Zvi Institute, 1982), p. 111.
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Adam Bishop (talk) 23:40, 2 January 2025 (UTC).
- For a long time I have been considering creating this article. Helvis is mentioned rather frequently by the leading historians of the crusades, especially by Mayer. The reason I did not create the article, however, is that I could not find evidence of in-depth coverage. All I could gather was genealogical information, and this is all I see in the article now: a list of her family (parents, brothers, husbands, sons) in which she is covered as a link between various men. Is anything known about Helvis's actions? Surtsicna (talk) 13:22, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- I was thinking about creating it for a long time as well, and I had the same problem. I wasn't sure I should list it here, since you're right, there's not much about her aside from genealogy. The most that seems to have been written about her is by Hans Mayer, about the possible dates of her birth and marriages. I will see if I can squeeze any more information about the sources I have at hand. Adam Bishop (talk) 23:13, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Thasmin
( )... that a popular ship between two characters in the television series Doctor Who, dubbed Thasmin, was later adapted into the show at the suggestion of lead actress Jodie Whittaker?
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- Comment: Wasn't sure whether to class this as newly created or recent GA promo due to its circumstances, so just left it on the default template.
Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 22:04, 1 January 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: Splendid work Pokelego999, looking forward to your future contributions to DYK! New enough, by both GA promotion date and creation date. Congratulations on attaining GA status with such quick turnover! Earwig detects low similarity with sources used within the article. QPQ not needed as the nominator has below 5 nominations. There are two things I would like to address before approving the hook. I wanted to discuss with you whether the term "ship" should be used in the hook rather than a less jargonistic term. The GA reviewer noted the same, and I'm wondering if "pairing" or another term would be more accessible for a general audience. In addition, I am curious if there are additional sources for the hook aside from Bleeding Cool that could serve to back it up. It is not as much of an issue, but I am curious if other agencies had covered the same interaction between Whittaker and Chibnall. Ornithoptera (talk) 00:00, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Ornithoptera: Perhaps "romantic pairing" with a link to the shipping article would suffice for simplicity's sake? Additionally, I do believe other sources mention this, as I have seen it get brought up in brief across other sources, but Bleeding Cool mentioned it the most directly for the purposes of the article, and is what the statement for this DYK is cited to in the article, so I do not believe there should be an issue there, since Bleeding Cool is a reliable source per WP:VG/RS. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 00:10, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for the quick response Pokelego999! Romantic pairing sounds like a good idea to me, could you propose the alt hook in your reply? I will approve of that shortly. Also, thank you for the clarification. Seems like apart from that, everything should be good on my end! Wonderful work, and looking forward to your future work! Ornithoptera (talk) 00:17, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Ornithoptera: could you clarify by alt hook? Do you mean a second hook, or an alteration to the original hook? Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 00:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- My bad, I should have specified! You are welcome to do either, but in my experience, a second hook is proposed with the proposed rewording and then approved from there. Ornithoptera (talk) 01:01, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Ornithoptera: How is that done? I'm admittedly unfamiliar with the process here. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 01:04, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, thank you for asking Pokelego999, typically it would go something like "ALT0a: ...that ". Here's an example from my DYK nomination of Salmon n' Bannock if you want to see it in practice, and another one just in case! Ornithoptera (talk) 01:18, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
ALT0a: ... that a popular ship between two characters in the television series Doctor Who, dubbed Thasmin, was later adapted into the show at the suggestion of lead actress Jodie Whittaker?
- Like this? Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 01:24, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yup, but with the changes that we had discussed! You can alter the hook for ALT0a with what we've discussed and I'll give it the needed approval! Ornithoptera (talk) 04:26, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, woops, brain farted and forgot to actually include the new content in there. Here:
ALT0a: ... that a popular romantic pairing between two characters in the television series Doctor Who, dubbed Thasmin, was later adapted into the show at the suggestion of lead actress Jodie Whittaker?Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 03:08, 3 January 2025 (UTC)- The above hook is pretty long at 190 characters and thus would probably fall under WP:DYKTRIM. Perhaps something like: ALT0b: ... that a popular romantic pairing from Doctor Who was later adapted into the show at the suggestion of lead actress Jodie Whittaker? Sometimes, it's not actually necessary to mention the article subject by name in a hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:13, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yup, but with the changes that we had discussed! You can alter the hook for ALT0a with what we've discussed and I'll give it the needed approval! Ornithoptera (talk) 04:26, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Seems like a reasonable adjustment, Pokelego999, how does it look for you? If you're okay with the wording, I'll let ALT0b proceed! Ornithoptera (talk) 06:37, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Should be good. Thank you to both! Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 12:45, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Awesome! ALT0b approved! Going to cross out the previous versions to make the promoters job a little more easier. Splendid working with you Pokelego999, thank you for your patience and understanding while workshopping this hook. I hope to work more with you in the future! Thank you to Narutolovehinata5 for your suggestion as well! Ornithoptera (talk) 18:18, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Should be good. Thank you to both! Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 12:45, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 29
Bonnie Blue (actress)
( ) Bonnie Blue in June 2024- ... that the pornographic actress Bonnie Blue (pictured) attributes her success with married men to their wives?
- ALT1: ... that for three weeks in 2024, Bonnie Blue (pictured) allowed men to have sex with her for free on one condition?
- ALT2: ... that the OnlyFans creator Bonnie Blue (pictured) began producing content with 18-year-olds as she felt that the platform's existing content was not authentic or educational enough?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/German atrocities committed against prisoners of war during World War II
- Comment: There are some great hooks in this. There's a bit in the video I got the image from where she said her shortest scene lasted nine seconds and it's a crying shame it isn't due.
Launchballer 04:52, 4 January 2025 (UTC).
- Comment I think the facts about her being banned from Australia and Fiji are really interesting/crazy so I want to suggest some alts if you don't mind:
- ALT3: ... that Bonnie Blue (pictured) was banned from multiple countries because of her porn career?
- ALT4: ... that Bonnie Blue (pictured) was banned from multiple countries because she had too much sex?
- Di (they-them) (talk) 14:28, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- "Multiple countries" would need an end-of-sentence citation for Australia. That said, "that Matty Healy is banned from Dubai" was the most-viewed non-image hook of May 2023, so perhaps a bald ALT5: ... that Bonnie Blue (pictured) is banned from Fiji?--Launchballer 15:02, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- I reworded the sentence in question, so either ALT3 or ALT4 could be trimmed at 'countries'.--Launchballer 04:04, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- "Multiple countries" would need an end-of-sentence citation for Australia. That said, "that Matty Healy is banned from Dubai" was the most-viewed non-image hook of May 2023, so perhaps a bald ALT5: ... that Bonnie Blue (pictured) is banned from Fiji?--Launchballer 15:02, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Their Highest Potential: An African American School Community in the Segregated South
( )- ... that a 1996 book was written about an African-American high school that was later added to the National Register of Historic Places in 2018?
SL93 (talk) 01:22, 29 December 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on December 30
San Jose State Spartans women's volleyball
( )- ... that several teams forfeited matches against the San Jose State Spartans women's volleyball team in 2024?
- ALT1: ... that although San Jose State University has San Jose State Spartans women's volleyball team, men's volleyball is a non-varsity sport at the university?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tel al-Sultan attack
- Comment: Driveby nom. There have got to be more hooks than this (and indeed there was a claim that would have made a good hook that I removed as it failed WP:RSP), but I'm glazing over.
Launchballer 17:03, 1 January 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: ALT1 reads a bit clunkily, I suggest revising to something along the lines of:
- ALT1a: ... that while San Jose State University has a varsity women's volleyball team, men's volleyball is a non-varsity sport at the university?
- SammySpartan (talk) 20:05, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- We could go even tighter than that. ALT1b: ... that San Jose State University has a varsity women's volleyball team but not a men's?--Launchballer 20:10, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
20–50 club
( )- ... that Rickey Henderson was the first American League player to join the 20–50 club?
- Source: "Became the first AL player to hit 20 home runs and swipe 50 bases ..." (ESPN)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/KZJO
—Bagumba (talk) 01:20, 31 December 2024 (UTC).
- Maybe additional context and/or a rewording is needed for the benefit of non-North America/East Asia readers, as well as for non-baseball fans? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:34, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5:: Is there formal guidance on this, as hooks always seem across the board w.r.t. providing context. Randomly looking at the current set, "... that Shō Sen'i was overthrown in favor of his thirteen-year-old nephew?" doesn't say who this person is, where it happened, or when. I always took this as a DYK standard to give creative liberty on how much/little context might draw interest to the hook. Still, "baseball" can be fit in somewhere, if needed. But is there benefit beyond "OK, I still don't understand this, but it's a sport I don't care about"?—Bagumba (talk) 03:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Recently, there has been some pushback against hooks that rely on "obscure US sport terminology" (to quote AirshipJungleman29), and the hook as currently written may be too reliant on American readership in this case. I understand baseball is a fairly popular sport in parts of the world, which is why the hook angle itself isn't unsalvageable. It's just that it might need some slight rewording for the benefit of audiences. It could be as simple as adding "baseball player" before Henderson's name, or perhaps something else. Anything to encourage readers to click on the bolded link, while also not being too technical to turn away readers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:20, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: In this case, "20–50" is not basic baseball terminology either, so the goal is to get curious readers—even American baseball readers—to click because they did not already know what it was. Here's an ALT w/ baseball:
- ALT1 ... that Rickey Henderson was the first American League baseball player to join the 20–50 club?—Bagumba (talk) 10:02, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: In this case, "20–50" is not basic baseball terminology either, so the goal is to get curious readers—even American baseball readers—to click because they did not already know what it was. Here's an ALT w/ baseball:
- Recently, there has been some pushback against hooks that rely on "obscure US sport terminology" (to quote AirshipJungleman29), and the hook as currently written may be too reliant on American readership in this case. I understand baseball is a fairly popular sport in parts of the world, which is why the hook angle itself isn't unsalvageable. It's just that it might need some slight rewording for the benefit of audiences. It could be as simple as adding "baseball player" before Henderson's name, or perhaps something else. Anything to encourage readers to click on the bolded link, while also not being too technical to turn away readers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:20, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Chauburji (Agra)
( ) Chauburji- ... that the Chauburji (pictured) might have been the original place of burial of the Mughal emperor Babur?
- Source: Nath, Ram. "Babur's Innovations". History Of Mughal Architecture. Vol. 1. pp. 115–119.
- ALT1: ... that the Chauburji (pictured) was converted into a residence by a British official, who destroyed the western wall of its nearby mosque to convert it into a gateway? Source: Raza, Mohammad Abdullah (2020). "Chauburji Monument at Agra: Its Plan and Inspirations". In Sinha, A. K.; Rizvi, S. N. R. (eds.). History: Past and Beyond. New Delhi: Anamika Publishers and Distributors. p. 143.
- ALT2: ... that the Chauburji (pictured) built during the Mughal period, was converted into a residence by a British official? Source: Raza, Mohammad Abdullah (2020). "Chauburji Monument at Agra: Its Plan and Inspirations". In Sinha, A. K.; Rizvi, S. N. R. (eds.). History: Past and Beyond. New Delhi: Anamika Publishers and Distributors. p. 143.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Zoe Smith
AmateurHi$torian (talk) 08:31, 30 December 2024 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on December 31
List of things named after Julius Caesar
( ) Julius Caesar- ... that the month of July is named after the Roman dictator Julius Caesar (pictured)?
- Source: Britannica, Emperor of Rome: Ruling the Ancient World by Mary Beard (ISBN:9781631494109), page no - 38
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The AP (talk) 13:32, 6 January 2025 (UTC).
- Comment not review the hook needs a bold link to the article, possibly named after. TSventon (talk) 15:03, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Another comment not review: The comma between "dictator" and "Julius Caesar" is incorrect. Since removing the comma would cause MOS:SEAOFBLUE issues, I suggest also removing the link on "dictator". Toadspike 19:54, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Jindřich Marco
( )- ... that most of Jindřich Marco's early photography of Budapest was lost when a train carrying his exposed film was ambushed by Red Army deserters, who threw it out of the window?
- Source: Vladimír Birgus . Jindřich Marco. Fototorst. Prague: Torst, 2014. ISBN 978-80-7215-423-4. Pages 11–12.
- ALT1: ... that an irreverent photograph of Czechoslovak President Klement Gottwald brought a ten-year sentence for the photojournalist Jindřich Marco, who had to serve seven years in uranium mines? Source: Josef Moucha . "The message of a forgotten photographer". Fotograf . + Vladimír Birgus . Jindřich Marco. Fototorst. Prague: Torst, 2014. ISBN 978-80-7215-423-4. Page 27. + Vladimír Birgus and Jan Mlčoch . Czech photography of the 20th century. Prague: Kant, 2010. ISBN 978-80-7437-027-4. Page 128. + Jiří Zahradnický. "Včera byla válka" (Yesterday was war). Paladix foto-on-line, 12 May 2005. + "Jindřich Marco." AbArt: Archiv výtvarného umění / Archive of Fine Arts.
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- Comment: Birgus's text in the Fototorst book is similar to that in the earlier Hořká leta · Evropa = Bitter years · Europe = Bittere Jahre · Europa, here at the Internet Archive.
Hoary (talk) 01:53, 5 January 2025 (UTC).
- Comment by nominator: As most of the material in Birgus's introduction to Hořká leta · Evropa (1995) reappears in his introduction to Jindřich Marco (2014), I've guessed that the latter benefits from almost two decades of reflection, etc, and therefore in the article have cited it rather than the former. (The older introduction does have detail that the newer one lacks, so I may yet change my mind.) The newer book isn't at the Internet Archive, but you'll be able to verify the original "hook" via page 21 of Hořká leta · Evropa. As for "ALT1", you'll find much of this (but no mention of Gottwald) on page 31 of Hořká leta · Evropa; for Gottwald, see Moucha's "Message". (Both these sources are in English.) -- Hoary (talk) 00:14, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Antoinette Lubaki
( ) Antoinette: Deux hommes trinquant (Two Men Drinking)- ... that Antoinette Lubaki is considered to the first artist in Congo to create works on paper?
- ALT1: ... that Antoinette Lubaki is the first known named female artist from Congo? Source: https://awarewomenartists.com/en/artiste/antoinette-lubaki/
- ALT2: ... that Congo's first named woman artist Antoinette Lubaki painted her watercolours by candlelight at night, as no stories were allowed to be told during the day? Source: https://awarewomenartists.com/en/artiste/antoinette-lubaki/
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MumphingSquirrel (talk) 13:04, 4 January 2025 (UTC).
Julier Pass
( ) One of the Roman columns beside the modern pass road.- ... that the peak of the Julier Pass, 2,284 metres (7,493 ft) above sea level, is flanked by two ancient Roman columns? Source: https://hls-dhs-dss.ch/de/articles/008811/2018-01-30/
- ALT1: ... that the Julier Pass was the first Swiss alpine road paved with asphalt? Source: https://hls-dhs-dss.ch/de/articles/008811/2018-01-30/
Toadspike 15:49, 31 December 2024 (UTC).
- There are several other images in the article which might be interesting as an image hook – if the reviewer thinks the engraving of the Roman columns is more interesting than the photograph, then we could go with that one. Alternatively, perhaps a hook could be made about the theater tower, which has a heap of cool photos on Commons. Toadspike 15:51, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- A way to phrase "meters above sea level" more concisely would be appreciated. Toadspike 15:52, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 1
Penstemon harringtonii, Harold Harrington
( Comment or view )( Article history links: )- ... that despite collecting plant specimens not to identify new species, Harold Harrington was the first to collect a species that would be named for him?
- Reviewed: 1.) Template:Did you know nominations/Jonna Adlerteg, 2.) Template:Did you know nominations/Swim School
Pbritti (talk) 21:29, 6 January 2025 (UTC).
WLOK (Ohio)
( )... that Hugh Downs began his broadcast career by walking into the lobby of an Ohio radio station on a whim?Source: Broadcasting - 5 Feb 1990 - page 103- Reviewed:
Nathan Obral • he/him • t • c • 03:23, 4 January 2025 (UTC).
- Pinging Sammi Brie for input here (and possibly to review the nomination) since, as it stands, the current hook doesn't seem to meet WP:DYKINT considering it's reliant on knowing who Downs is. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:03, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- I was wondering if that'd be the case about the hook (it's my idea). I do not review Nathan Obral nominations and vice versa since we are very frequent collaborators and I sometimes provide assistance to his articles. Here's a possible ALT1: Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 17:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that staffers of an Ohio radio station learned it had been sold on the same day its owner died? ( + )
- I support this ALT1 from Sammi Brie, by the way, and would be fine with it being the primary hook. Nathan Obral • he/him • t • c • 21:22, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yup. ALT1 should be more broadly interesting compared to the original. ALT0 has been struck. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:10, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Bridget Jones: Mad about the Boy (novel)
( )- ... that the title of Helen Fielding's third Bridget Jones novel, Mad about the Boy, was inspired by a Noël Coward song?
- Source: McClurg, Jocelyn (1 June 2013). "Helen Fielding opens up about new Bridget Jones book". USA Today. Retrieved 1 January 2013.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: This is timely as the movie based on this book is going to be released in February 2025.
Blackballnz (talk) 05:59, 2 January 2025 (UTC).
- It is quite surprising that it took us 12 years to get this article, but it is timely indeed. It is new and long enough. Earwig warns of a "likely" copyright violation but I do not see it. Perhaps rephrase a bit just in case. I do not see any bias either. I think that, given the ample coverage, we can have secondary source citations for the entire Plot section despite it not being required per MOS:PLOTSOURCE, and of course the Film adaptation section needs another citation for the last paragraph. I also think that far more interesting hooks can be produced from this article, spoilery and non-spoilery. Surtsicna (talk) 12:20, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the 1990s romcom heroine Bridget Jones is widowed in the Mad about the Boy novel, with a film to be released in February 2025?
- ALT2: ... that a revelation about the 1990s romcom heroine Bridget Jones in the 2013 novel Mad about the Boy caused an outcry among the fans?
I think either of these would attract more interest. Surtsicna (talk) 12:33, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks @Surtsicna. I also was surprised that there was no article about this novel, and I was prompted to write it by the upcoming film. I will make those changes that you suggest. I'm not sure about calling Bridget Jones a "1990s" romcom heroine, as she seems to be better known in the films which started in 2001. How about combining the death of Darcy & the upcoming film -
- ALT3: ...that fans of romcom heroine Bridget Jones were shocked at the death of a favourite character in the 2013 novel, Mad about the Boy, and again in the 2025 film.
I can add a sentence to the film page about fans being shocked about Darcy's death, as it isn't currently there and there are plenty of references.(Actually, the film page refers to Darcy appearing as a ghost, which isn't supported at all, so I will fix).
Pantropiko
( ) Bini at Billboard Korea's K Power 100 event- ... that "Pantropiko" made Bini (pictured) become the first P-pop group to top the Billboard Philippines Songs chart?
- Source: Billboard Philippines
- ALT1: ... that despite being released in November 2023, "Pantropiko" by Bini (pictured) became a sleeper hit summer anthem in the Philippines by 2024? Source: Rappler
- Reviewed:
AstrooKai (Talk) 12:37, 1 January 2025 (UTC).
Fossils of Finland
( )- Source: https://www.google.ru/books/edition/Precambrian_Geology_of_Finland/3D5R3vexH1sC?hl=en&gbpv=1
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Fossils of Finland
- Comment: hello!
DogWorldLive64 (talk) 10:16, 1 January 2025 (UTC).
- Hello and welcome to DYK. Right now, Fossils of Finland is only 235 characters long, far below the 1,500 character minimum requirement. The article's wording is also in need of a copyedit. As this appears to be your first nomination and English doesn't seem to be your first language, we can be lenient and give the article a week to be brought up to standards. If you need any assistance, please do not hesitate to ask for advice over at WT:DYK. Good luck! Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:12, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- It has been almost a week since the nomination, but the article has not made any edits to the article, nor did they properly respond to the above. As the article is nowhere near a state appropriate for DYK and also now has a notability tag, this nomination is marked for closure. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- @GeorgiaHuman: has beefed this up to 899 characters. Would you be interested in expanding further?--Launchballer 11:56, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I see that you proposed the article for deletion (which DogWorldLive64 then removed). Maybe an AFD is needed to address the notability concerns? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:50, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @GeorgiaHuman: has beefed this up to 899 characters. Would you be interested in expanding further?--Launchballer 11:56, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- It has been almost a week since the nomination, but the article has not made any edits to the article, nor did they properly respond to the above. As the article is nowhere near a state appropriate for DYK and also now has a notability tag, this nomination is marked for closure. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Current nominations
Articles created/expanded on January 2
Dirini
( ) Table Mountain Beauty (Aeropetes tulbaghia)- ... that the relationship between the Dirini (Aeropetes tulbaghia pictured) and its closest relative has been described by researchers as "odd"?
- Source: "The only member of the genus Mantaria, Mantaria hercyna (= maculata), is confirmed to be the sister taxon to the Dirini. This is odd because the species is Neotropical, and it is estimated to have diverged from the Dirini at least 40 Ma, when South America was several thousand kilometres off the southern African coast" Price, Ben W.; Villet, Martin H.; Walton, Shaun M.; Barker, Nigel P. (April 2011). "Using molecules and morphology to infer the phylogenetic relationships and evolutionary history of the Dirini (Nymphalidae: Satyrinae), a tribe of butterflies endemic to Southern Africa". Systematic Entomology. 36 (2): 300–316. doi:10.1111/j.1365-3113.2010.00560.x. Retrieved 29 December 2024.
- ALT1: ... that the African Dirini (Aeropetes tulbaghia pictured) diverged from its closest relative when South America was thousands of kilometres away from the African coast? Source: Same as above
- ALT2: ... that its closest relative of the African Dirini (Aeropetes tulbaghia pictured) is from South America? Source: Same as above
- ALT3: ... that all but one member of the Dirini (Aeropetes tulbaghia pictured) is found in South Africa and Lesotho? Source: "Amongst the African satyrine butterflies, the tribe Dirini Verity is distinctive for its remarkable degree of endemism. All 28 nominal species (Table 1) occur only in South Africa or Lesotho (Fig. 1), except one that extends into eastern Zimbabwe, even though the tribe is at least 25 million years old" Price, Ben W.; Villet, Martin H.; Walton, Shaun M.; Barker, Nigel P. (April 2011). "Using molecules and morphology to infer the phylogenetic relationships and evolutionary history of the Dirini (Nymphalidae: Satyrinae), a tribe of butterflies endemic to Southern Africa". Systematic Entomology. 36 (2): 300–316. doi:10.1111/j.1365-3113.2010.00560.x. Retrieved 29 December 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sher Machado
- Comment: Thank you in advance to the reviewer for their time and hard work! I have three re-wordings of the same hook for ALT0-2, but if there is an alternative wording, I would be more than happy to hear it through! As a note: the source says "sister taxon" but I've used the more approachable wording "closest relative." The key point is that this entirely Southern African group's closest relative is from South America, and the divergence was when South America was quite far away from Africa when this happened.
Ornithoptera (talk) 06:29, 9 January 2025 (UTC).
Klerykal fiction
( )- ... that the Polish subgenre of speculative fiction known as klerykal fiction emerged in the 1990s as a response to societal fears of church influence in politics? Source: see sources cited at the end of the sentence: " its period of popularity is attributed to the first half of the 1990s. In Poland, this period was characterized by, among other things, a decline in public trust in the church, combined with the church's entry into politics, which led to the emergence of anti-church movements."
- ALT1: ... that Polish klerykal fiction has been described as both a critique of institutionalized religiosity and an artistic response to neoconservative views? Source: Mazurkiewicz, Adam (2014). "Fantastyka religijna jako zjawisko osobne (rekonesans)". In Leś, Mariusz M.; Stasiewicz, Piotr (eds.). Motywy religijne we współczesnej fantastyce (in Polish). Białystok: Wydawnictwo Uniwersytetu w Białymstoku. pp. 33–50
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Di Algemeyne Entsiklopedye
- Comment: Disclaimer & trivia. I asked ChatGPT to generate hooks as an experiment, feeding it DYK guidelines on hooks and the article's text. I think these two turned out nicely (I just needed to match the claims with the sources).
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:53, 9 January 2025 (UTC).
Roller disco
( ) 1979 disco skaters in New York, likely at the Sheepshead Bay Roll-A-Palace- ... that Cher, Prince, Grace Jones, Madonna, and Olivia Newton-John all participated in the 1979 roller disco craze?
- Source: "Undiscarded: Stories of New York: Ep7 – Rollerskate". The City Reliquary. 2023-05-17. Archived from the original on January 3, 2025. Retrieved 2025-01-03. https://web.archive.org/web/20250103154034/https://www.cityreliquary.org/undiscarded-rollerskate/ -- " Mr. Charisma’s (another moniker for Mr. Butler) stylish tricks and effortless skating style (Brooklyn Bounce, Wobbly Duck) made the rink a HOT destination and drew storied celebrities away from the snooty uptown clubs (Studio 54) down to the warm & accepting Brooklyn Rink. Most famously Cher herself" ............. Other celebrities source: Reaven, M., Zeitlin, S. (2006). Hidden New York: A Guide to Places That Matter. Rutgers University Press, 114. Ortiz, Lori. (2011) Disco Dance. ABC-CLIO, 127.
- ALT1: ... that The Kalamazoo News described the "Disco Dip" as "the pioneering roller disco record" of 1979? Source: "Faster Than Sound". Kalamazoo News. 15 November 1979. p. 16. Retrieved 2025-01-02. "The “Disco Dip," created by Ed Chalpin of PPX Enterprises, has until now been credited as the pioneering roller disco record. But according to A stound-A Sound Productions, a small New Jersey-based company, its “Roller Palace”.beat out Chalpin's product by one day.....Squabble, squabble. Everybody wants to be credited for jumping on the bandwagon first."
- ALT2: ... that at the height of the roller disco craze of 1979, there were an estimated "5,000 roller rinks in the U.S.," attracting "more than 28 million young American skaters"? Source: "Brooklyn Sees New 'Disco Dip'". Billboard. 1979-02-17. p. 70. https://books.google.com/books?id=LSUEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PT97&dq=%22disco+dip%22+wktu&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj0h4mh89eKAxUVvokEHTbsDzEQ6AF6BAgHEAI#v=onepage&q=%22disco%20dip%22%20wktu&f=false "There are an estimated 5,000 roller rinks in the U.S. They reportedly attract more than 28 million young American skaters. According to Chalpin, 99.9% of these rinks are already programming disco music either in whole or in part."
- ALT3: ... that during the roller disco craze of 1979, Mr. Charisma's "stylish tricks" made the Empire Roller Disco "a HOT destination"? Source: "Undiscarded: Stories of New York: Ep7 – Rollerskate". The City Reliquary. 2023-05-17. Archived from the original on January 3, 2025. Retrieved 2025-01-03. https://www.cityreliquary.org/undiscarded-rollerskate/ "Mr. Charisma’s (another moniker for Mr. Butler) stylish tricks and effortless skating style (Brooklyn Bounce, Wobbly Duck) made the rink a HOT destination and drew storied celebrities away from the snooty uptown clubs (Studio 54) down to the warm & accepting Brooklyn Rink. Most famously Cher herself"
- Reviewed:
Evedawn99 (talk) 15:00, 8 January 2025 (UTC).
- This is good work, Evedawn99, but the article has not been expanded fivefold. The article has the potential to produce very good hooks, however. Perhaps you should aim for improving it to GA status and then nominate it again. Surtsicna (talk) 00:30, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Roll-A-Palace
( ) Disco skaters at the Roll-A-Palace, 1979- ... that Brooklyn's Roll-A-Palace was "the front-runner of the roller-disco craze"?
- Source: "What's Hot? What's Not?". Cue: The Weekly Magazine of New York Life. Cue Publishing Company. 1979. " ... the front - runner of the roller - disco craze , a fabulous $ 2 million roller disco in a former movie theater that has been earning its $ 4 ( including skates ) admission price for the past two years . "
- ALT1: ... that Brooklyn's Sheepshead Bay Roll-A-Palace hosted weekly "Disco Dips" nights, celebrating "the first roller disco record played in a skating rink"? Source: "Faster Than Sound". Kalamazoo News. 15 November 1979. p. 16. Retrieved 2025-01-02. https://digmichnews.cmich.edu/?a=d&d=KalamazooKN19791115-01.1.15&e=-------en-10--1--txt-txIN----------
And,
Riedinger, Bob Jr. (1979-03-03). "Going Back to the 1870s: Skating To Music". Billboard. pp. 48, 57. https://books.google.com/books?id=KyUEAAAAMBAJ&dq=%22roll-a-palace%22&pg=PT56#v=onepage&q=%22roll-a-palace%22&f=false
- ALT2: ... that in 1979, Brooklyn's Sheepshead Bay Roll-A-Palace hosted over 5,000 patrons per weekend, featuring a snack bar that seated 400? Source: Riedinger, Bob Jr. (1979-03-03). "Going Back to the 1870s: Skating To Music". Billboard. pp. 48, 57. https://books.google.com/books?id=KyUEAAAAMBAJ&dq=%22roll-a-palace%22&pg=PT56#v=onepage&q=%22roll-a-palace%22&f=false
- ALT3: ... that Brooklyn's Sheepshead Bay Roll-A-Palace premiered the "Disco Dip" in 1979, widely considered the first roller disco song? Source: "Faster Than Sound". Kalamazoo News. 15 November 1979. p. 16. Retrieved 2025-01-02. https://digmichnews.cmich.edu/?a=d&d=KalamazooKN19791115-01.1.15&e=-------en-10--1--txt-txIN----------
And,
Riedinger, Bob Jr. (1979-03-03). "Going Back to the 1870s: Skating To Music". Billboard. pp. 48, 57. https://books.google.com/books?id=KyUEAAAAMBAJ&dq=%22roll-a-palace%22&pg=PT56#v=onepage&q=%22roll-a-palace%22&f=false
- Reviewed:
Evedawn99 (talk) 14:41, 8 January 2025 (UTC).
1972 Sidney Lanier Bridge collapse
( ) The collapsed Sidney Lanier Bridge- ... that in 1972, the Sidney Lanier Bridge in the U.S. state of Georgia collapsed (pictured) after being struck by a cargo ship?
- Source: The Brunswick News
JJonahJackalope (talk) 14:09, 8 January 2025 (UTC).
- As a recently promoted GA, the article easily passes the requirements. The hook is interesting, concise, and verifiable, and so it too passes the DYK requirements. I wonder, however, if it would be possible to produce an even more interesting hook. This topic strikes me as a potential DYK goldmine. Surtsicna (talk) 00:47, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna:, sure, how about:
... that the 1972 Sidney Lanier Bridge collapse (pictured), which was caused by a collision from a cargo ship, caused ten deaths and over a million dollars in damages? The source for the damages is here, while the death toll is here. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 01:17, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- JJonahJackalope, I just noticed that the article about the bridge itself is only 1500 characters long. Would it be possible to expand that article fivefold so that we might have a double hook? This is a rare opportunity. Hall of Fame guaranteed! Surtsicna (talk) 01:34, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna:, I was thinking about expanding that article at some point, never done a bridge article before, but I found a few good sources while doing the collapse article, and I'm fairly confident I could get it expanded within a few days. How much time would I have to get it expanded and added to this nomination? -JJonahJackalope (talk) 01:39, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- If it's only a few days that you need, @JJonahJackalope:, you can certainly have them! I think if you just copied the "Background" and "Later history" into the main bridge article (where it probably belongs anyway), you could have it in an instant. But see what you think is best. Surtsicna (talk) 10:36, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'll let you know as soon as I've completed work on the bridge article and we can move forward from there. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 14:00, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna:, I have expanded the article for Sidney Lanier Bridge five times and have reviewed another DYK nomination, Template:Did you know nominations/Roof-end Tile with Human Face Motif. As a result, if it is possible to add the Sidney Lanier Bridge article to my nomination here, I would simply make the hook:
- I'll let you know as soon as I've completed work on the bridge article and we can move forward from there. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 14:00, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- If it's only a few days that you need, @JJonahJackalope:, you can certainly have them! I think if you just copied the "Background" and "Later history" into the main bridge article (where it probably belongs anyway), you could have it in an instant. But see what you think is best. Surtsicna (talk) 10:36, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna:, I was thinking about expanding that article at some point, never done a bridge article before, but I found a few good sources while doing the collapse article, and I'm fairly confident I could get it expanded within a few days. How much time would I have to get it expanded and added to this nomination? -JJonahJackalope (talk) 01:39, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
... that the 1972 collapse of the Sidney Lanier Bridge (pictured), which was caused by a collision from a cargo ship, caused ten deaths and over a million dollars in damages?
- Let me know what you think of this and if there is anything else I need to do. Thanks, -JJonahJackalope (talk) 21:54, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- This expansion far exceeds my expectations. You certainly did not cut corners like I suggested that you might. Truly impressive. Thank you. Surtsicna (talk) 22:10, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Let me know what you think of this and if there is anything else I need to do. Thanks, -JJonahJackalope (talk) 21:54, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Line of Duty
( )- ... that BBC One initially passed on Line of Duty, which would later become its highest-rated drama in 19 years?
- Source: https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/drama/line-of-duty-rejected-bbc/ and https://variety.com/2021/tv/global/line-of-duty-bbc-netflix-1899-1234964851/
- ALT1: ... that BBC One initially passed on what would later become its highest-rated drama in 19 years? Source: https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/drama/line-of-duty-rejected-bbc/ and https://variety.com/2021/tv/global/line-of-duty-bbc-netflix-1899-1234964851/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sympathy Is a Knife
- Comment: The first source confirms that BBC One turned it down and that it's the biggest BBC drama, the second source confirms that it's the most-viewed drama since 2002.
TheDoctorWho (talk) 18:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC).
Chinese sanctions
( )- ... that China has sanctioned over 100 foreign individuals and entities with asset freezes and other restrictions due to alleged interference with China's sovereignty?
- Source: https://iclg.com/practice-areas/sanctions/china
Sanction reasons included interference with sovereignty, selling weapons to Taiwan and imposing unilateral sanctions related to Xinjiang and Hong Kong. Until August 2024, over 100 individuals and entities have been placed on the list.
haha169 (talk) 16:40, 6 January 2025 (UTC).
Fatima Payman
( ) Payman in 2022- ... that Fatima Payman (pictured) is the first member of the Parliament of Australia to wear a hijab?
GraziePrego (talk) 07:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC).
- While stated in the lead, the hook's fact is not sourced in the lead and is wholly unmentioned in the body. ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:36, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Pbritti does my edit at Special:Diff/1268309867 suffice to satisfy your concern? TarnishedPath 04:16, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @TarnishedPath: Looks good! I'm going to do a quick review of the article when I have fresh eyes and should have this approved by the end of the day UTC. Thanks! ~ Pbritti (talk) 04:35, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Pbritti: lol on your edit at Special:Diff/1268313206. Actually I was almost going to do this DYK review because I have some articles coming up in the future that I will need QPQ for, but then I realised that I couldn't because I had edited the article a bit. Anyway when I was going to review it, I did a bit of googling about another Australian politician named Pauline Hanson to determine if she was the first female to wear a hijab because a number of years ago in an act of racist belligerence she's decided to wear a Burqa in parliament. Anyway I was glad at the time to see that Hanson wasn't the first to female to wear a hijab in parliament. TarnishedPath 05:11, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hi TarnishedPath, just wanted to double check if were you intending to follow through on reviewing Payman's article? If so, I'll leave you to it, but if not, I would love to take a look at it when I have the time to this week! Ornithoptera (talk) 18:03, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Pbritti: lol on your edit at Special:Diff/1268313206. Actually I was almost going to do this DYK review because I have some articles coming up in the future that I will need QPQ for, but then I realised that I couldn't because I had edited the article a bit. Anyway when I was going to review it, I did a bit of googling about another Australian politician named Pauline Hanson to determine if she was the first female to wear a hijab because a number of years ago in an act of racist belligerence she's decided to wear a Burqa in parliament. Anyway I was glad at the time to see that Hanson wasn't the first to female to wear a hijab in parliament. TarnishedPath 05:11, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @TarnishedPath: Looks good! I'm going to do a quick review of the article when I have fresh eyes and should have this approved by the end of the day UTC. Thanks! ~ Pbritti (talk) 04:35, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Pbritti does my edit at Special:Diff/1268309867 suffice to satisfy your concern? TarnishedPath 04:16, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Joseph R. Biden Presidential Library
( )- ... that Joe Biden has cited Wilmington, Delaware, and Syracuse, New York, as possible locations for the Joseph R. Biden Presidential Library?
- Reviewed:
FORTHCOMINGTemplate:Did you know nominations/Wu Suxin
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 155 past nominations. Chetsford (talk) 20:56, 4 January 2025 (UTC).
- @Chetsford: You need to provide a QPQ as soon as possible, as the nomination will be closed without further warning if one is not provided. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:54, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Langar Ki Masjid
( )- ... that the ceiling of the Langar Ki Masjid resembles a Buddhist chaitya?
- Source: Yazdani, Ghulam (1939). Annual Report of the Archaeological Department of His Exalted Highness the Nizam's Dominions, 1346 F. (1936-37 A.C.) (PDF). Calcutta: Baptist Mission Press. p. 7.
It has a vaulted arch-shaped ceiling ceiling with representations of wooden ribs resembling those which are usually found in rock-cut Buddhist chaityas
- ALT1: ... that the vaulted ceiling of the Langar Ki Masjid resembles a Buddhist chaitya? Source: Yazdani, Ghulam (1939). Annual Report of the Archaeological Department of His Exalted Highness the Nizam's Dominions, 1346 F. (1936-37 A.C.) (PDF). Calcutta: Baptist Mission Press. p. 7.
It has a vaulted arch-shaped ceiling ceiling with representations of wooden ribs resembling those which are usually found in rock-cut Buddhist chaityas
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mseilha Fort
AmateurHi$torian (talk) 12:12, 4 January 2025 (UTC).
Summertime (Cinnamons and Evening Cinema song)
( )- ... that the Japanese song "Summertime" gained traction after it became popular in Southeast Asia two years after its first release?
- Source: Shūkan Gendai (link)
lullabying (talk) 02:19, 4 January 2025 (UTC).
Elisheva Biernoff
( )- ... that Elisheva Biernoff paints recreations of found vintage snapshot photographs, including details like lens flare and overexposure? Source: The New Yorker: "Working from found photographs—snapshots—Biernoff creates works that match, in size, scale, and color, what she sees in the original images." Artforum: "For more than a decade, Elisheva Biernoff has painted exquisitely uncanny trompe l’oeil re-creations of vintage found photographs. Taken as a group, the snapshots on which she bases her works are of no great distinction. Some feature a failure of some kind—overexposure, lens flare, water damage, the accidental intrusion of a foot into the frame, or the glaring reflection of a flash on glass or mirror."
Jonathan Deamer (talk) 19:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on January 3
Jailson Mendes
( )- ... that Jailson Mendes had to gain weight for his first porn film?
- ALT0a: ... that a bear had to gain weight for his first porn film?
- ALT1: ... that Jailson Mendes entered the porn industry after a couple randomly approached him?
- ALT2: ... that a porn star's "hysterically bizarre performance" became one of the most widely spread memes in Brazil?
- ALT3: ... that a porn star received the nickname "Family Man"?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sugya
- Comment: Driveby nom. ALT0a is intended for April Fools' Day.
Launchballer 15:38, 7 January 2025 (UTC).
Tanzania. Masterworks of African Sculpture
( ) Makonde mask from Tanzania- ... that the exhibition Tanzania. Masterworks of African Sculpture highlighted traditional artworks from Tanzania?
- Source:
- ALT1: ... that the exhibition Tanzania. Masterworks of African Sculpture refuted the alleged scarcity of figurative art in Tanzania? Source:
- Reviewed: Template:Did_you_know_nominations/2024_Masyaf_raid
- Comment: Largest exhibition on traditional artworks from Tanzania ever, catalogue out of print, with original versions in German and Swahili. This article on the en-WP fills a gap.
Munfarid1 (talk) 12:24, 6 January 2025 (UTC).
References
- Azhar, Kamarul (27 Aug 2020). "Cover Story: The long & winding saga of the Penang Transport Master Plan and its political fallout". The Edge. Retrieved 29 Mar 2024.
- Opalyn Mok (10 Dec 2024). "Land for Penang LRT depot on man-made Silicon Island to be ready end of 2025". Malay Mail. Retrieved 14 Dec 2024.
- Christopher Tan (11 May 2023). "Penang South Islands project scaled down to one island – Silicon Island". Buletin Mutiara. Retrieved 31 Mar 2024.
- Kerstin Volker (1995), "Tanzania: Masterworks of African Sculpture", African Arts, vol. 28, no. 1, pp. 84–86, doi:10.2307/3337256, JSTOR 3337256
- Kecskési, Maria (1994), Jens Jahn, Haus der Kulturen der Welt, Berlin und Städtische Galerie im Lenbachhaus, München (ed.), "Einleitung (introduction)", Tanzania: Meisterwerke afrikanischer Skulptur. Sanaa za Mabingwa wa Kiafrika. (in German and Swahili), München: Fred Jahn, pp. 17–18, ISBN 3-88645-118-6
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Wielka, większa i największa
( )- ... that Polish 1960 sci-fi novel Wielka, większa i największa was very influential for Polish young adult literature? Source: multiple scholarly sources, with several quotations, all grouped in the section 'Milestone in Polish youth fiction' (but I am afraid all in Polish and few digitized, I was working with scans for the most part...).
- ALT1: ... that Polish 1960 sci-fi novel Wielka, większa i największa was very influential for Polish young adult literature and has been a compulsory or recommended reading in Polish schools for many decades? Source: for additional sources regarding compulsory/recommended status, see 'Awards and recognition' section
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Organization of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
- Comment: 2nd hook is longer but contains another interesting claim, plus most English readers are probably not familiar with the concept of compulsory reading...
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:37, 4 January 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on January 4
Bertrand of Toulouse (son of Alfonso Jordan)
( )- ... that Christians were outraged when Count Raymond II of Tripoli helped Muslims capture his cousin Bertrand, who had tried to conquer Tripoli?
- Source: Lewis 2017, p. 155
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bridget Jones: Mad about the Boy (novel)
- Comment: This article is tied to the article Hodierna of Jerusalem, which is also nominated for DYK. I have considered a double hook, but decided that the separate hooks are more interesting. I hope that the two hooks can be featured on the same day as a compromise solution.
Surtsicna (talk) 12:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC).
Christian death metal
( )- ... that Christian death metal has been called the least likely musical development at the close of the 20th century?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Alice of Antioch
- Comment: I re-created this from the redirect. The article content is over 10x expanded from its previous greatest size prior to conversion into redirect.
3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 13:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC).
Ana María Ochoa
( )- ... that ethnomusicologist Ana María Ochoa was born in Colombia, studied in British Columbia, and taught at Columbia? Source: Born October 9 , 1962 , Medellín , Colombia + Bachelor of Music, University of British Columbia, 1987 ... Associate Professor, The Department of Music and Center for the Study of Ethnicity and Race, Columbia University, 2008-2015
- ALT1: ... that ethnomusicologist Ana María Ochoa is from Colombia, studied in British Columbia, and taught at Columbia? Source: Same as ALT0
- ALT2: ... that Ana María Ochoa was born in Colombia, studied in British Columbia, and taught at Columbia? Source: Same as ALT0
- ALT3: ... that Ana María Ochoa is from Colombia, studied in British Columbia, and taught at Columbia? Source: Same as ALT0
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Allen DeGraffenreid (wide receiver) (wide receiver)
- Comment: It's hard to find someone from these three places/institutions despite how extremely similar the names are - ultimately (1, 2, 3) all three of them go straight to Christopher Columbus.- so I figured why not?
ミラP@Miraclepine 03:50, 6 January 2025 (UTC).
Taur Ikhbeineh
( )- ... that at Taur Ikhbeineh in the Gaza Strip archaeologists found evidence of interactions between Egyptians and Canaanites in the 4th millennium BC?
- Source: "The presence of both locally manufactured Egyptian and Canaanite wares undoubtedly implies that two potters' workshops operated respectively side by side at Taur Ikhbeineh or somewhere nearby and, consequently, as a result of close cultural interaction in that region, a distinctive local pottery repertoire ("Besor group") was augmented"
Richard Nevell (talk) 20:29, 5 January 2025 (UTC).
Draupner wave
( )- ... that the Draupner wave was the first scientific evidence that rogue waves exist?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Liceu bombing
- Comment: Will do QPQ either later tonight or tomorrow.
EF 23:32, 4 January 2025 (UTC).
- @EF5, you did not specify a reason for eligibility (newness or 5x expansion). Since this was a split from Rogue wave, it isn't new, and DYKCheck says the split content hasn't been expanded fivefold, so I believe this article is not currently eligible for DYK. As I am still new to DYK reviewing, I am asking for a second opinion to confirm this. Toadspike 14:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Also, fair warning, WP:QPQ says "Your QPQ review should be made before or at the time of your nomination. A nomination which doesn't include a QPQ (and is not from an exempt nominator) may be closed as "incomplete" without warning." I strongly advise you to have a QPQ ready before any future DYK nominations to remove the risk of such a quickfail. Toadspike 14:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- This article is eligible as it was moved to mainspace on 4 January. I'd step on the QPQ though @EF5:.--Launchballer 12:41, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Will do today, I was waiting till a second-opinion was given. EF 17:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Done. EF 15:21, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Full review needed.--Launchballer 15:24, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Done. EF 15:21, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Will do today, I was waiting till a second-opinion was given. EF 17:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- This article is eligible as it was moved to mainspace on 4 January. I'd step on the QPQ though @EF5:.--Launchballer 12:41, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Also, fair warning, WP:QPQ says "Your QPQ review should be made before or at the time of your nomination. A nomination which doesn't include a QPQ (and is not from an exempt nominator) may be closed as "incomplete" without warning." I strongly advise you to have a QPQ ready before any future DYK nominations to remove the risk of such a quickfail. Toadspike 14:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Bugia (candlestick)
( ) A bugia as depicted in John Naifa's 1925 work "Costume of Prelates of the Catholic Church"- ... that the bugia, a ceremonial candlestick used by Latin Catholic Bishops or other prelates, gets its name from an Algerian port city famous for its exportation of candle wax?
Maximilian775 (talk) 18:56, 4 January 2025 (UTC).
Jama Masjid, Hyderabad
( )... that the Jama Masjid was the first congregational mosque in Hyderabad?
- Source: Campbell, A. C. (1898). Glimpses of the Nizams Dominions. pp. 168–169.
Close to the Char Minar, on the left of the main r o a d, approached by a very narrow lane, is the Juma Musjid, erected by Sultan Mahomed Kuli in 1598. This is the oldest musjid in Hyderabad.
ALT1: ... that the Jama Masjid was the first mosque to be built in Hyderabad?Source: Campbell, A. C. (1898). Glimpses of the Nizams Dominions. pp. 168–169.Close to the Char Minar, on the left of the main road, approached by a very narrow lane, is the Juma Musjid, erected by Sultan Mahomed Kuli in 1598. This is the oldest musjid in Hyderabad.
- ALT2: ... that the inscriptions of the Jama Masjid, Hyderabad "may compare favorably with the best calligraphic specimens of other countries"? Source: Yazdani, Ghulam (1921). Epigraphia Indo-Moslemica, 1917-18. Calcutta: Superintendent Government Printing, India. p. 43.
The bold sweeping curves and fine, crisp vertical and horizontal stroke of these inscriptions exhibit art of a high order and they may compare favourably with the best calligraphic specimens of other countries.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Emmanuel (emu)
AmateurHi$torian (talk) 15:52, 4 January 2025 (UTC).
- The article falls short of a fivefold expansion even when I count the lead section, which repeats information from the rest of the article. Therefore it does not yet qualify for DYK. Surtsicna (talk) 16:51, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna: This version when I started the expansion had 789 characters (136 words), and the article now has 4154 characters (703 words), according to DYKCheck.AmateurHi$torian (talk) 17:27, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- You are right. I only see 3442 characters when the lead is not counted, however. Would it be possible to add 500 more? I would also suggest improving the citation style; rather than putting all the citations at the end of the paragraph, try putting them right after the sentence to which they relate. I am looking forward to reading a bit more about the masjid. Surtsicna (talk) 22:52, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna: Article is now 4718 characters (will be approximately 4000+ when the lead is excluded) according to DYKCheck, and I've added inline citations within paragraphs.AmateurHi$torian (talk) 00:06, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot, AmateurHi$torian! I started with a source spot check. Citation #4 does not seem to cover the first paragraph of the first section (coincidentally where the hook comes from), unless I am missing something. It explicitly says the opposite, that it was not the first mosque, and it does not mention "congregational" at all. Surtsicna (talk) 23:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna: Ah, I've just noticed that Sherwani calls the prayer-hall in Charminar a "mosque". This interpretation would make the Jama Masjid the second mosque of the city, so I'll strike the first two hooks. I've altered the article to the same effect. The word "congregational" is used in the second paragraph, and the source for that is #5 (Bilgrami) already cited within the paragraph, who calls it an assembly mosque. AmateurHi$torian (talk) 00:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Alternate hooks can be ALT3: "... the short height of the minarets of the Jama Masjid, Hyderabad might have been deliberate, in order to emphasize the loftiness of the nearby Char Kaman and Charminar?" or ALT4: "...the the Jama Masjid was one of the first mosques to be built in Hyderabad?", the source for both these hooks being Sherwani p. 30 and 29 respectively.AmateurHi$torian (talk) 00:26, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Fixed the issue with the first paragraph and a couple other citation issues.AmateurHi$torian (talk) 00:27, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot, AmateurHi$torian! I started with a source spot check. Citation #4 does not seem to cover the first paragraph of the first section (coincidentally where the hook comes from), unless I am missing something. It explicitly says the opposite, that it was not the first mosque, and it does not mention "congregational" at all. Surtsicna (talk) 23:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna: Article is now 4718 characters (will be approximately 4000+ when the lead is excluded) according to DYKCheck, and I've added inline citations within paragraphs.AmateurHi$torian (talk) 00:06, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- You are right. I only see 3442 characters when the lead is not counted, however. Would it be possible to add 500 more? I would also suggest improving the citation style; rather than putting all the citations at the end of the paragraph, try putting them right after the sentence to which they relate. I am looking forward to reading a bit more about the masjid. Surtsicna (talk) 22:52, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna: This version when I started the expansion had 789 characters (136 words), and the article now has 4154 characters (703 words), according to DYKCheck.AmateurHi$torian (talk) 17:27, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
So far so good. The article is now clearly sufficiently expanded. It is certainly comprehensive and well sourced. I should also note that the expansion is recent enough and that I have not detected any close paraphrasing. I think there is an even more interesting hook hiding in the article:
- ALT5: ... that Wolseley Haig noted that it was not the "city's huge mosque" but the "far less pretentious" Jama Masjid that served as the congregational mosque in Hyderabad?
I believe this would be the most successful of the proposed hooks, but it should be approved by another reviewer. Your thoughts are obviously welcome, AmateurHi$torian. Surtsicna (talk) 13:29, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- I don't have any issue with ALT5. Thanks for taking the time to review this :) AmateurHi$torian (talk) 16:26, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 5
An Introduction to Non-Classical Logic
( )- ... that Graham Priest wrote a textbook about alternative logics?
- Reviewed:
MathKeduor7 (talk) 08:30, 9 January 2025 (UTC).
Effects of Typhoon Yagi in Vietnam
( )- ... that conflicting wind speed reports on the effects of Typhoon Yagi in Vietnam were revised multiple times, but the reason remains unclear?
- Source: (1) (table 1, p. 20): Bãi Cháy 45 m/s, peak gusts 62 m/s; (2) (table 1.2, pp. 4-5): Bãi Cháy 50 m/s, peak gusts 63 m/s; (3) (table 1.2, pp. 4-5): Bãi Cháy 45 m/s, peak gusts 62 m/s
- Reviewed:
wolf20482 🐺 (talk) 02:53, 9 January 2025 (UTC).
SEEK (conference)
( )- ... that SEEK, a Catholic young adult conference, drew 17,000 people to Salt Lake City this Janaury?
- Source: https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/261389/a-great-witness-as-seek25-wraps-up-in-salt-lake-city-religious-and-clergy-reflect, https://ksltv.com/722640/catholic-conference-held-in-utah-for-the-first-time/
Arbitrarily0 02:29, 9 January 2025 (UTC).
Darren Moore
( ) Darren Moore pictured in 2011- ... that Darren Moore (pictured) walked the Great Wall of China to raise money for good causes in Africa?
- Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/blackcountry/content/articles/2005/05/20/china_challenge_feature.shtml
- ALT1: ... that Darren Moore (pictured) led Sheffield Wednesday to promotion after they lost their play-off semi-final first leg by a four goal margin? Source: https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-secure-huge-club-record-and-condemn-derby-county-to-another-season-of-league-one-4133552 https://www.skysports.com/football/sheffield-wednesday-vs-peterborough-united/482285
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1453
EchetusXe 17:59, 6 January 2025 (UTC).
Abortion in the United Arab Emirates
( )- ... that abortion in the United Arab Emirates has been described as less restrictive than some American states following the overturning of Roe v. Wade?
- ALT1: ... that there is a black market for abortion pills in the United Arab Emirates, with prices going up to £1,100 for a pill? Source: https://www.huckmag.com/article/how-lockdown-is-affecting-womens-reproductive-rights https://gulfnews.com/uae/illegal-abortions-a-fatal-choice-1.834605
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ceechynaa
jolielover♥talk 06:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: The hooks provided are interesting and the article is eligible based on newness and length, but there is a sentence that does not have a citation and the first two paragraphs contain copy-pasted text from one of the sources. Provide a citation for the unsourced sentence and rewrite the lead in your own words, then I'll give this another look. --Grnrchst (talk) 13:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC) Grnrchst (talk) 13:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Cloak n Dagger
( )- ... that the Airbnb homestay where a song was recorded by Glaive and Ericdoa was dubbed by fans as the "Hyperpop Hype House"?
- Source: Pitchfork
- ALT1: ... that fans of Glaive and Ericdoa dubbed the Airbnb recording location of a song as the "Hyperpop Hype House"? Source: Pitchfork
- ALT2: ... that fans of Glaive and Ericdoa dubbed the recording location of "Cloak n Dagger" as the "Hyperpop Hype House"? Source: Pitchfork
- Reviewed:
Locust member (talk) 20:48, 5 January 2025 (UTC).
Diocese of Banias, Adam of Acre, John (bishop of Banyas)
( Comment or view )( Article history links: )- ... that Adam and John were the only Latin bishops of Banias who lived in Banias?
- Source: Hamilton, p. 120
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Aquilegia gracillima, Template:Did you know nominations/Jama Masjid, Hyderabad
Surtsicna (talk) 16:52, 5 January 2025 (UTC).
- @Surtsicna: I need a third QPQ (there are two). I'm also having trouble finding the passage in Hamilton that verifies this from your link. Is it possibly the p267 ref? Is it left to assume that there was Adam, there was John, and then there were titular bishops? Otherwise the pages are new and long enough. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:28, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, Sammi Brie. I counted two out of the three articles at the columbine nomination (the third I had already used up) as two QPQs. Sorry, I have no idea what I meant by "page 120". I had changed hooks quite a bit. Hamilton is quite explicit so there is no need to assume. See pages 84 (Banyas conquered, no successor to John appointed), 397 (succession of the resident bishops), and of course 266-267 for the titular bishops. Surtsicna (talk) 10:48, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Ernesius
( )- ... that Archbishop Ernesius was sent to Europe to request help for the Kingdom of Jerusalem, but barely survived a sea storm and did not dare set sail again?
- Source: Hamilton, p. 133
Surtsicna (talk) 14:44, 5 January 2025 (UTC).
- Most things look good, but can you (1) provide a footnote at the end of the sentence which reads "The prelates were driven...", and (2) can you see if the following hook is appropriate? If ALT1 is true to the facts, can you make sure it is properly cited in the article (e.g., is it the Mediterranean we're talking about)? Arbitrarily0 02:20, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that twelfth-century Archbishop Ernesius attempted to cross the Mediterranean Sea with two other bishops, but was thwarted by a severe storm?
- Thanks, Arbitrarily0! Footnote duplicated. ALT1 is certainly true, but there is no source saying they were crossing the Mediterranean. That would basically be WP:CALC for there is no other sea for them to cross. Perhaps a combination of ALT0 and ALT1 might be most interesting? Surtsicna (talk) 10:30, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Archbishop Ernesius and two other bishops attempted to reach Europe by sea, but were driven back by a severe storm and did not dare set sail again?
- On second thought, I don't think we need a source to identify the sea with the Mediterranean. He was bishop over Caesarea Maritima, after all. But do you have a reason for not wanting "twelfth-century" included? There needs to be some more context for the hook to become interesting. The other concern I have is about "daring" to set sail again. That's not quite what the source says: "none of the passengers would consent to risk again the perils of the deep." Allow me to propose ALT3. Arbitrarily0 14:33, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- ALT3 ... that Ernesius, the twelfth-century Archbishop of Caesarea, was once prevented from crossing the Mediterranean by such a severe storm that he refused to make a second attempt.
- Arbitrarily0, I think a more concise hook is likelier to hold readers' attention; ALT3, in particular, is over the character limit. I also must confess that I do not see the difference between "did not dare" and "would not consent to risk again the perils", but the ALT3 wording is fine with me. Surtsicna (talk) 14:46, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Having shortened ALT3 slightly, everything checks out. But, for what it's worth: if someone "does not dare", it means their primary motivation against acting is fear. But "not consenting to risk" is different. It could mean that someone thinks, in a rational, unemotional manner, that the costs do not outweigh the gains. That said, feel free to keep making a case for your original hook; we can also get someone else's opinion. But ALT3, at minimum, is good to go. Thank you, again, for your work on this article. Arbitrarily0 16:08, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Arbitrarily0, I think a more concise hook is likelier to hold readers' attention; ALT3, in particular, is over the character limit. I also must confess that I do not see the difference between "did not dare" and "would not consent to risk again the perils", but the ALT3 wording is fine with me. Surtsicna (talk) 14:46, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Ali-Hajji of Akusha
( )- ... that Ali-Hajji of Akusha supported the Bolsheviks because he believed they would implement sharia?
- Source: "Daniyalov, Hajji-Ali (1958). Борьба за установление и упрочение Советской власти в Дагестане, 1917–1921 гг. Сборник документов и материалов (in Russian). Academy of Sciences of the Soviet Union. p. 119" & "Abdullayev, Magomed (2013). Триумф и трагедия шейх-уль-ислама Дагестана Али-Хаджи Акушинского (in Russian). Makhachkala: Epoch. p. 50–51."
- Reviewed:
Mupper-san (talk) 10:11, 5 January 2025 (UTC).
- Hi @Mupper-san: this article is new enough, long enough, and well-sourced. However, I'm not sure how accurate this hook is from the body of the article. We have Ali-Hajji saying
The Bolsheviks are not against us living according to sharia
and him, as a member of Bolshevik committee,promising that the committee would establish sharia courts
. None of this suggests he thought the Bolsheviks were going to establish the courts, just that he thought they would tolerate the courts, and sought to set them up. Of course, I don't have access to your sources and can't read Russian. Is there something you can incorporate from them that makes what Ali-Hajji thought clearer? Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 01:26, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 6
Sanity Code
( )- ... that in 1949, several athletic conferences, including the Southeastern Conference discussed withdrawing from the NCAA after the Sanity Code, which barred athletic scholarships, went into effect?
- Source: Pay for Play: A History of Big-Time College Athletic Reform (Discussion on withdrawal is on p. 97, while p. 93 includes the provision that financial aid be limited only to needs-based assistance)
- ALT1: ... that in 1949, the University of Virginia threatened to leave the National Collegiate Athletic Association if the Sanity Code, which barred athletic scholarhips, was not amended? Source: Pay for Play: A History of Big-Time College Athletic Reform, p. 97
- ALT2: ... that several universities and athletic conferences in the Southern United States were opposed to the NCAA's Sanity Code, a 1948 set of rules that barred athletic scholarhips? Source: Pay for Play: A History of Big-Time College Athletic Reform, p. 94; Where Football is King: A History of the SEC, p. 15
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Troupeau Bleu
JJonahJackalope (talk) 15:11, 8 January 2025 (UTC).
Johnny Gaudreau
( )- ... that despite being one of the smallest players in the National Hockey League, Johnny Gaudreau was a seven-time All-Star?
- Source: Re: smallest: "Even last season, his 11th in the NHL, Gaudreau, all grown up, was all of 5-9, 163. Among the 1,022 players who appeared in the League, only 15 were shorter. Only five were lighter."
- ALT1: ... that Johnny Gaudreau's 2022 decision to sign with the Columbus Blue Jackets "stunned" the hockey world? Source: 1, 2
- Reviewed: ]
As I considered the GA pursuit as a form of honoring his memory, I figured I'd aim to celebrate him with the DYK and avoid something about his death/the aftermath. The Kip 07:57, 8 January 2025 (UTC).
David Einhorn (poet)
( )- ... that the Yiddish poet David Einhorn criticized other Jewish writers who settled in Berlin as bourgeois and out of touch with their fellow migrants?
- Source: Saß, Anne-Christin (2010). Estraikh, Gennady; Krutikov, Mikhail (eds.). Yiddish in Weimar Berlin: At the Crossroads of Diaspora Politics and Culture. Legenda. pp. 179–195. ISBN 9781906540708.
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 22:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC).
- @Generalissima: I have taken it upon myself to review this article for DYK approval.Davidbena (talk) 17:16, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
I am not sure if it matters so much, but perhaps the hook can be reworded to read:
- ALT1 ... that the Yiddish poet David Einhorn levelled criticism at other Jewish writers in Berlin whom he accused of being "bourgeois intellectuals" and out-of-touch with their fellow migrants?
This seems to be more in keeping with your own statement in the article, namely, He frequented the Romanisches Café, which became a central meeting place for Jewish migrant intellecutals in Berlin, although began to strongly oppose the "coffee house culture" of many of the migrants, whom he decried as bourgeois intellectuals.
Davidbena (talk) 17:28, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Another option might be to emphasize that this happened before WWII, during "pre-war Berlin".Davidbena (talk) 17:33, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Grininke Beymelekh, Shloyme Bastomski
( Comment or view )( Article history links: )- ... that Shloyme Bastomski reestablished the first children's periodical published in Yiddish after it was discontinued due to World War I?
- Source: Cohen, Nathan (2021). "No More 'Little Jews without Beards': Insights into Yiddish Children's Literature in Eastern Europe Prior to World War I". Modern Judaism. 41 (1): 102–109. doi:10.1093/mj/kjaa018.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/CHWI-DT, Template:Did you know nominations/Erich Lassota von Steblau
- Comment: Two real short ones here, but they're both over the limit.
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 22:38, 7 January 2025 (UTC).
Reinstatement of capital punishment in the Democratic Republic of the Congo
( )- ... that the government of the Democratic Republic of the Congo executed 102 men identified as "urban bandits"?
- Source: ABC News
- Reviewed:
TNM101 (chat) 06:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: Surely this article can be merged into Capital punishment in the Democratic Republic of the CongoAmateurHi$torian (talk) 19:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- But since there is so much reporting about the reinstatement itself, I think a separate article is warranted. Although, I do not oppose a merge. TNM101 (chat) 13:27, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Blow Up (French TV series)
( )- ... that when the French web series Blow Up briefly aired on television in 2014, its allotted airtime was too short to fit some of its episodes?
- Source: (in French) "'Blow Up' : les secrets de fabrication du webmag d'Arte" (transl. "'Blow Up': the secrets of the creation of the Arte webmag.") "Elle l'a diffusé une fois, en 2014, pendant six mois. C'était très intéressant, sauf qu'on m'avait imposé une durée de 4,10 minutes par vidéo. Pour certains formats, comme les 'Bio express', je pouvais m'en sortir. Mais pour les 'Top 5', il était impossible de comprimer les séquences." (transl. "It broadcast it once, in 2014, for six months. It was very interesting, except that I was given a duration of 4.10 minutes per video. For certain formats, like 'Bio express', I could get by. But for the 'Top 5', it was impossible to compress the sequences.")
- Reviewed:
- Comment: In the article, the fact is in the second paragraph of § Release. The citation is at the end of that paragraph.
–CopperyMarrow15 (talk – edits) 05:35, 7 January 2025 (UTC).
Victor Cordella, Church of St. Casimir (Saint Paul, Minnesota)
( Comment or view )( Article history links: ) The Church of St. Casimir in St. Paul, Minnesota- ... that Victor Cordella designed around twenty churches in Minnesota, including the Church of St. Casimir (pictured)?
- Source: Elliott, Cecil D. (2003). The American architect from the colonial era to the present. Jefferson, N.C. : McFarland & Co. p. 123. ISBN 978-0-7864-1391-1., "A Polish Architect for all" (PDF). PolAm. 39 (3). Polish-American Cultural Institute of Minnesota: 1, 6. March–April 2017.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Old School Baptist Church and Cemetery of Hopewell, Template:Did you know nominations/Violin scam
- Comment: The Church of St. Casimir is a 5x expansion, but the DYK script doesn't catch it because the page erroneously had an inline commons category link counted as part of the prose.
~Darth Stabro 04:16, 7 January 2025 (UTC). Both articles:
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Deval Masjid
( )- ... that the Deval Masjid was originally a temple?
- Source: Eaton, Richard M. (2011). "Muhammad bin Tughluq and Temples of the Deccan, 1321-26". In Haidar, Navina Najat; Sardar, Marika (eds.). Sultans of the South: Arts of India's Deccan Courts, 1323-1687. Metropolitan Museum of Art. p. 180. ISBN 978-1-58839-438-5.
Locally known as the "Deval Masjid" in Urdu, or the "Vanda-stambhala-gudi" (hundred-pillared temple) in Telugu, the structure had originally been a temple, built in the late twelfth or early thirteenth century in the Kakatiya style
Yazdani, Ghulam (1916). Annual report of the Archaeological Department of His Highness the Nizams Dominions, 1323-24 F. (1914-15 A.D.). Baptist Mission Press. p. 3.The great mosque popularly known as the Deval Masjid was originally a Buddhist or Jaina temple, for the seated images of Buddha or of Tirthankaras are carved on several stones. Later it seems to have fallen into the hands of Hindus, whose religious symbols can also be traced on the building.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Extrasolar planets in fiction
- Comment: It might be a good idea to make the page semi-protected before it features on the main page, as the conversion of Hindu temples into mosques is a contentious political topic in India
AmateurHi$torian (talk) 17:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC).
- @AmateurHi$torian: I have taken it upon myself to review this article.Davidbena (talk) 16:25, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
it is perhaps preferrable to define for our readers what a "masjid" is. Therefore, I would prefer the following DYK:
- ALT1:... that the Deval Masjid (a 14th-century mosque) was originally a Hindu temple?
Otherwise, the article is new enough and long enough, and the article is adequately sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems, to the best of my knowledge. The hook is interesting and has been verified by provided inline citation. Moreover, the image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear.Davidbena (talk) 16:46, 9 January 2025 (UTC) QPQ: Done.
Dorotea Wilson
( )- ... that when Dorotea Wilson joined the Sandinista National Liberation Front she did not expect to leave her vocation as a nun? Source: "In 1975, still in her twenties, Dorotea Wilson joined a guerrilla group in the northern region led by the Sandinista National Liberation Front (Frente Sandinista de Liberación Nacional, or FSNL), which was fighting to overthrow Nicaragua’s right-wing Somoza dictatorship. As a result, she renounced her vows as a nun and became deeply involved in politics within the Sandinista revolutionary movement." Perez, M. (2016). Wilson, Dorotea Louise. In Dictionary of Caribbean and Afro–Latin American Biography. : Oxford University Press. Retrieved 6 Jan. 2025, from https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780199935796.001.0001/acref-9780199935796-e-2216.
- ALT1: ... that for Dorotea Wilson involvement in the Sandinista National Liberation Front led to an awakening of her Afro-Nicaraguan identity? Source: " She once mentioned that her participation in the Sandinista revolutionary process contributed to awakening her cultural identity as an Afro-Nicaraguan/Caribbean woman and fueling her militancy in the struggle for the rights of women." Perez, M. (2016). Wilson, Dorotea Louise. In Dictionary of Caribbean and Afro–Latin American Biography. : Oxford University Press. Retrieved 6 Jan. 2025, from https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780199935796.001.0001/acref-9780199935796-e-2216.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Yogini with a Mynah Bird
Lajmmoore (talk) 14:24, 6 January 2025 (UTC).
The Befrienders
( )- ... that the pilot episode of The Befrienders was widely criticised for being too far-fetched?
- Source: Leicester Mercury The Observer
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Diner Lobster
- Comment: Happy to provide more ALT hooks.
Cielquiparle (talk) 06:48, 6 January 2025 (UTC).
- Source is good. I just don't find the hook engaging enough. Could you add some more detail? Lankyant (talk) 09:35, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 7
Mink (manga)
( )- ... that the Japanese manga series Mink featured futuristic technology even though its creator was unfamiliar with computers?
lullabying (talk) 06:39, 9 January 2025 (UTC).
- article is recently created, within policy and long enough. Hook is interesting and short enough. QPQ is complete. Note, I verified the source to the best of my ability using Google translate. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:27, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Christopher Trychay, The Voices of Morebath, Churchwardens' accounts
( Comment or view )( Article history links: )- ... that a 2002 book relies extensively on a 16th-century priest's churchwardens' accounts that include his support for a failed rebellion?
- Reviewed: 1.) Template:Did you know nominations/Hodierna of Jerusalem, 2.) Template:Did you know nominations/Tesseropora rosea, 3.) Template:Did you know nominations/Fatima Payman
Pbritti (talk) 01:04, 8 January 2025 (UTC).
Prison healthcare in Australia
( )- ... that the health of prisoners in Australia is impacted by their lack of access to Medicare, the country's otherwise universal health care system?
- Source: "Ensuring universal access: The case for Medicare in prison". Alternative Law Journal. 42 (8). 2023.
- ALT1: ... that despite the higher health needs of prisoners in Australia, they have less access to medical services than people in the general community? Source: As above
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Armand Ceritano
Damien Linnane (talk) 00:59, 8 January 2025 (UTC).
- article is recently promoted to GA, long enough and within policy. Hook is short enough and interesting. I prefer ALT0. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:22, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Shmuel Hurvits
( )- ... that the Yiddish poet Shmuel Hurvits quit his job as a teacher to become a street-paver due to an ideological appreciation for manual labor?
- Source: Steinlauf, Michael C. (2003). "A. Litvin: Chronicler of Jewish Souls". In Steinlauf, Michael C.; Polonsky, Antony (eds.). Polin: Studies in Polish Jewry. Vol. 16. Liverpool University Press. pp. 371–412. doi:10.3828/liverpool/9781874774730.003.0020. ISBN 9781874774730.
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 22:52, 7 January 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on January 8
Maria McDermottroe
( )- ... that Irish actress Maria McDermottroe was Fortycoats' lilter? Source: https://stillslibrary.rte.ie/indexplus/image/2195/020.html
- ALT1: ... that Irish actors Maria McDermottroe and her daughter Gina Costigan each portrayed the love interest of real-life criminals in 2003's Veronica Guerin? Source: https://www.farmersjournal.ie/entertainment/living-life-/pursuing-passions-354415 https://www.hotpress.com/culture/markievicz-park-4554045
- ALT2: ... that Irish actors Maria McDermottroe and her daughter Gina Costigan each portrayed the love interest of real-life criminals in 2003's Veronica Guerin? Source: same
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Eurovision Song Contest 1975
- Comment: If 2 QPQ is needed:Template:Did you know nominations/Pablo Busch
Bogger (talk) 13:34, 9 January 2025 (UTC).
Woljeonggyo
( ) On the bridge Woljeonggyo- ... that Woljeonggyo was an 8th-century bridge that was recreated in 2018? Source: This source isn't used in the article (the sources in the article are mostly Korean-language), but it supports the hook .
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/So Medieval
- Comment: I had more than 5 DYKs on a previous account so I have to do QPQs
seefooddiet (talk) 12:48, 9 January 2025 (UTC).
10 won bread
( )- ... that the Bank of Korea asked makers of a cheese-filled waffle to change the design of the dish? Source: or
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Literarishe Bleter
- Comment: I had more than 5 noms on my old account so I have to do QPQs on this account.
seefooddiet (talk) 12:40, 9 January 2025 (UTC).
Fancy molly, Poecilia sphenops
( Comment or view )( Article history links: ) Lyretail black mollies- ... that the black molly (pictured) might not be a black molly?
- Source: "Allerdings: gibt es ihn überhaupt, 'den' Black Molly? Oder ist es nicht vielmehr so, dass es eine ganze Reihe von schwarzen Molliensern gibt, mit ganz unterschiedlichen Stammeltern? Letztere Situationsbeschreibung trifft sicher eher zu, als 'den' Black Molly als 'schwarze Zuchtform des Spitzmaulkärpflings, Poecilia sphenops' zu definieren, wie es in zahlreichen Aquarienbüchern gehandhabt wird."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Roller disco, Template:Did you know nominations/1972 Sidney Lanier Bridge collapse
- Comment: The hook might turn out to be more interesting without the image. I leave it to the discretion of the reviewer and the promoter.
Surtsicna (talk) 11:00, 9 January 2025 (UTC).
January 2025 Richmond water outage
( )- ... that the January 5–6, 2025 United States blizzard led to major water infrastructure impacts in Richmond, Virginia?
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- Comment: Kind of current; I don't know how this process really works, but would love to see this on the Main Page while it is still relevant!
JuxtaposedJacob (talk) | :) | he/him | 07:55, 9 January 2025 (UTC).
- New article, more than long enough, decently sourced (though there's a heavy reliance on primary sources evident, not a major issue), hook cited and no image copyright issues. I do have one major issue: Earwig detects multiple pretty sizable copyvios. There's two over 40% confidence and going further down I see identical attributions to the sources (while there is an argument for keeping quotes, copyvios can occur if you take the attribution before the quote directly from the source, rather than just the quote itself). Also, the hook isn't too interesting, honestly; I'd propose an alt similar to "...that a blizzard across the United States caused a major water crisis in Richmond, Virginia?" or some variant (let me know what you think of that); "major impacts" happen all the time and being non-specific hurts this one. I advise that you check WP:EARWIG and go and root out the copyright violations, and ping me when that's done. Departure– (talk) 15:18, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
KTUL
( )- ... that the morning show on an Oklahoma TV station was such a "local phenomenon" that the president of ABC acquiesced to them not airing Good Morning America? Source: https://thislandpress.com/2012/03/03/john-chick/ + https://www.newspapers.com/article/tulsa-world-gallant-fight-lost-at-age-53/136553660/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Diocese of Banias (3 of 3)
Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:42, 9 January 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: Epicgenius (talk) 18:43, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
WPEC
( )- ... that a Florida TV station's decision to fire one of its main newscasters led to picketing? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-miami-herald-outraged-viewers-to-pic/122569805/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Diocese of Banias (2 of 3)
Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:36, 9 January 2025 (UTC).
WUVN
( )- ... that televangelist Gene Scott went 65 hours without sleep when he barricaded himself in the studios of his Connecticut TV station to protest an order to pay taxes? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/hartford-courant-whct-tv-airing-reruns-o/137245947/
- ALT1: ... that a fight over ownership of a Connecticut TV station reached the Supreme Court of the United States? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/hartford-courant-court-upholds-broadcast/122514051/
- ALT2: ... that a Connecticut TV station installed duckpin bowling lanes in its studio? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/hartford-courant-whct-building-alleys-fo/137242293/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Diocese of Banias (1 of 3)
Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:34, 9 January 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on January 9
Roof-end Tile with Human Face Motif
( )- ... that a South Korean Treasure was only returned to Korea from Japan 27 years after the end of the colonial period? Source:
- ALT1: ... that the logo of South Korean company LG was based off an ancient roof tile? Source: "그리고 LG의 출범과 함께 제정된 새 심벌마크가 ‘신라의 미소’로 통하는 ‘얼굴무늬 수막새’(보물 제2010호)에서 영감을 얻어 탄생했다는 사연이 소개됐다." -> "Upon LG's rebranding, it was announced that their new logo was inspired by the "Silla smile", "Roof-end Tile with Human Face Motif".
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Blue Bendy
- Comment: I think ALT1 is a less interesting story than the orig hook but LG would resonate with more people. Also I had more than 5 DYKs on a previous account so I need to do QPQs
seefooddiet (talk) 13:02, 9 January 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: QPQ has been satisfied. The article is new enough and long enough. Earwig's Copyvio tool indicates that it is unlikely that there are any copyright violations. Both hooks are interesting and sourced appropriately. Overall, I see no reason not to approve this article. JJonahJackalope (talk) 21:51, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
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