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RE:Suikoden Task Force

I responded to your question on WT:CVG. JACOPLANE • 2007-07-6 15:51

Thanks for the guidance! If you'd like to check out what I have so far, feel free to check out User:Bwowen/Suikoden for the shell of what I want to get done. If you'd like to join, please feel free to add yourself as a contributor. Thanks again. bwowen . 17:23, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

FTR, I'm in on the task force.BigglesTh9 14:32, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Les Mis AfD

By the way, you did know that the current revision of WP:NOT that says explicitly not to split off plot summary articles (which is generally true) was added a mere 3 days ago, right? (Indeed, it's the newest revision present. ) Prior to that, it said simply that plot summary may be appropriate as an aspect of a larger topic, which a large number of us were reading as "follow WP:LENGTH". --tjstrf talk 04:52, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for informing me of this policy revision; however, the issue you raise is not the one at hand in the Les Mis Plot AFD. Here is the full text of WP:NOT#PLOT without the "new" text: "Misplaced Pages articles on published works (such as fictional stories) should contain real-world context and sourced analysis, offering detail on a work's development, impact or historical significance, not solely a detailed summary of that work's plot." The issue here is NOT that the plot summary is a separate article; rather, it is that the plot summary is both too detailed and the only focus of that article. In order for an article to be encyclopedic, it needs to be neither entirely made up of exhaustive plot summary nor devoid of any details beyond said summary. At least, that is my opinion of the policy as it stands. Thank you again. bwowen . 05:01, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Congrats!

Congrats on finding my first secret page! Have you look for the second?  hmwith  talk 09:34, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Eerily small, but good luck on the page!  hmwith  talk 16:50, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

DC Meetup notice

Greetings. There is going to be a Washington DC Misplaced Pages meetup on next Saturday, July 21st at 5pm in DC. Since you are listed in Category:Wikipedians in the District of Columbia, I thought I'd invite you to come. I see your userpage says that you're sometimes in Ri, so hopefully I've caught you at a good time... if not, there will always be a future meeting. I'm sorry about the short notice for the meeting. Hopefully we'll do somewhat better in that regard next time. If you can't come but want to make sure that you are informed of future meetings be sure to list yourself under "but let me know about future events", and if you don't want to get any future direct notices (like this one), you can list yourself under "I'm not interested in attending any others either" on the DC meetup page. --Gmaxwell 16:13, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

thanks for the advice

Please don't read irony into anything I say here: Funny you should bring that up because this is actually the calmest I've been all week (well, almost), and I made efforts in this discussion to start out calm and remain calm (the whole discussion here is certainly calmer than the original AfD). I guess that's not coming across. Some of my recent comments containing "shouts" were meant to be brief and were rhetorical devices that I was pretty cool in considering whether to use, I thought. I really wanted to grab attention with them and spark some people into thinking about their assumptions. But I think it's easy to misconstrue how you're coming across online when you type in an argument, so I'm going to think twice abuot doing any of that again. Thank you for bringing it up.

I'm making a lot of responses not because I'm angry -- believe me, I'm not -- but because I want individuals to think again about what they wrote here. If you look at those indented responses, I think you'll find even cooler language than was even in the opening statement. Some of the replies I'm getting to my responses are some of the best arguments I've heard here, and they're helping me to think about the issue (Maclean24 and corpx have made some good points).

This is important to me, although in this case the process is to me more important than this particular article. I think what may be worse than whether or not Kurykh acted wrongly is that it appeared he acted wrongly, and that appearance is ugly. And it's something he and/or others can fix by providing an explanation for that closing. Believe it or not, if I got a good rationale for his actions, either from him or from someone else, I could be convinced. I take being open minded very seriously and I've reversed positions before. Perhaps the problem here is that I like arguing a bit too much. Anyway, I'll take a short break after a little while and hope the discussion percolates. I'm going to assume you're perceiving things that I'm not. Thanks for the note. Noroton 23:58, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Replied here bwowen 03:12, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

AIV

Thank you for making a report at Misplaced Pages:Administrator intervention against vandalism. Reporting and removing vandalism is vital to the functioning of Misplaced Pages and all users are encouraged to revert, warn, and report vandalism. However, administrators generally only block users if they have received a recent final warning (one that mentions that the user may be blocked) and they have recently vandalized after that warning was given. The reported user has not yet been blocked because it appears this has not occurred yet. If this user continues to vandalize after their final warning, please report them to the AIV noticeboard again. Thank you. Jmlk17 22:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the message; however, the user in question has both received a final warning (User talk:67.181.63.245#May 2007) and vandalized (diff here), so I decided to take my first shot at AIV. What did I do wrong? Thanks for your help. bwowen 22:41, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey buddy. In answer to your question, you honestly did nothing wrong, per se. It's your first shot at AIV, so no worries. We admins usually would prefer to have current warnings (not ones that occurred a while ago), and usually it helps if the vandal is currently vandalizing. Keep in mind that the rules aren't really set in stone, but they are usually pretty good guidelines to abide by. But keep up the good work, and we'll get your reporting down pat eventually :). Jmlk17 22:46, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick response and for the encouragement! My only other question would be why this diff that I reverted doesn't count as "currently vandalizing." Or maybe you were just giving an example? Just wanted to clarify. Again, thank you very much for your help and kind words, and for not biting me! Being bold can be scary! =] bwowen 22:54, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh man no worries at all! I was a newcomer once, and I am a very strong believer in not biting at all! I believe that as an admin, biting a newbie is the worst thing I could do! As for your question, I agree that the difference you gave me is/was vandalism, and your revert was perfect. But (and especially with IPs), it is a little bit better if there are current final warning(s), and a couple of current/recent vandalisms. I hope this helps, and, as always, if you ever need anything, give just me a holler! Jmlk17 23:00, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

re:Suikoden Task Force

Just as I was defeating Luca Blight in Suikoden II! Nice work. — Deckiller 06:14, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry

Just a bit of fun sorry, I'm a Liverpool fan! — Preceding unsigned comment added by R10Magia (talk • contribs) 18 July 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks

I, too, would like to thank you for reverting. Out of curiosity, how did you happen across this vandalism of my userpage? Thanks! bwowen talk•contribs•review me please! 18:02, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

No problem. The guy vandalized another user's page, which was on my watchlist for some reason, (I think I reverted vandalism there before) which I saw and reverted. It was kinda blatant, so I kept a tab open to watch on his contributions (standard procedure for me). And... he vandalized yours. Which I reverted. Gscshoyru 18:09, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Editor review/Bwowen

I reviewed you. Shalom 22:16, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Review

Hi. :) Sorry for the late reply. I have yet to review you, mostly because this will be my first time reviewing an editor, and first I'd like to read up and read some of the other reviews given to other editors. Familiarize myself so I can give something worthwhile. I shall review soon (which won't be as long as my late reply.) ^_^; -WarthogDemon 04:04, 26 July 2007 (UTC)