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WP:GA/R
I'm taking this article to WP:GA/R because 1. No notice was given on the talk page when it was speedied and 2. Because this article does have a "cultural impact" section, detailing the relevance of the subject to real life. Homestarmy (talk) 15:33, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- I have relisted it. Geometry guy 19:28, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Wicked Crispy (talk) 21:29, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Speaking of Cultural Impact, I was under the impression that the creature was derived from the real life Pika, in the above posted link.
Parody appearance
Do the editors of this article think that the appearance of the clearly derivative "Peekaboo" character in the Young Justice: Sins of Youth storyline would merit mention in the "In popular culture" section or not? In that instance, I believe there was a 50-foot tall version rampaging through town who most of the characters had to take on shortly before the finale. John Carter (talk) 17:44, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Pika in Smash Bros.
Should we add any further info about Pikachu in the Smash Bros. series? Pezzar (talk) 07:49, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- Pikachu does play a major roll in the 3 Smash Bros. series, but I think the current paragraph(s) is fine. We could possibly add a single sentence about (his/her) role in SSE, but that's about it. --haha169 (talk) 00:49, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Talk archiving
This page is enormous. For the sake of everyone's sanity, I was considering archiving the talk page. Per WP:AATP, a consensus should be established first. The reason to do this archiving seems obvious: This pages is full of lengthy, dead discussions. It would be better for promoting future discussions to have one of the bots archive this page every few months, or at least make the first archive by hand now. So, let's leave the discussion open for a few days: Is there any good reason, based on Misplaced Pages guidelines and precedents, not to do this? (I'm only proposing to archive very old ones, say those above "GA removal") TheBilly (talk) 23:54, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- I support an archive, but archive everything up to the end of October 2007 to leave only the most recent comments on the page. MelicansMatkin (talk) 00:30, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- I agree. There's no reason not to, and if nothing else, there's a snowball's chance that there'd be a reason not to archive the page here. --Cheeser1 (talk) 01:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- Definite Archive. And quickly, too. This page is enormous. --haha169 (talk) 05:59, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- Archived. MelicansMatkin (talk) 15:39, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- Definite Archive. And quickly, too. This page is enormous. --haha169 (talk) 05:59, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
GA to FA
Well, I'm trying to get this article improved to FA status, so if anyone wants to pitch in, that'd be great. Useight (talk) 02:37, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Linking
Please don't link this into the article List of Pokemon I think such Pikachu is Ash Ketchum's Pokemon it deserves to stay the same Matthew Cantrell (talk) 02:37, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you mean, are you requesting that the page not be redirected to List of Pokémon? Useight (talk) 02:40, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
New image of Pikachu
As you can see, I have uploaded a new picture: Pikachu.svg. It is derived from a CDR image, which can be found here. The converting and cropping hasn't done it much good however. I've contacted Tkgd2007 about this, and if he can't help, I'll contact someone else. The original PNG file can still be found here. Cheers, Face 19:02, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- I requested improvement of this picture at the graphic lab, see here. If you are able to improve this image, please do! - Face 21:56, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Snapshots
Please consider adding this gallery as a list of relevant photos about Pikachu RyanTMulligan (talk) 16:35, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Mammal?!
Yeah, there's no way that (1) pikachu is a mammal, and (2) is of "high" importance as a mammal. Triptenator (talk) 20:55, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- I'd agree that Pikachu wouldn't be of high-importance to the Mammal wikiproject, whoever, Pikachu is a mouse Pokémon, and mice are mammals. Useight (talk) 23:12, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- Ovipositioning mammals are not impossible, besides. -Jéské 05:55, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- It can be "high" importance as a mammal on the wikiproject, since I doubt kids care more about platypuses than Pikachu.
However, its listing as GA is invalid. I've removed it.--haha169 (talk) 04:30, 2 June 2008 (UTC) - My bad. My comment above was mistaken with Meowth. --haha169 (talk) 04:30, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- It can be "high" importance as a mammal on the wikiproject, since I doubt kids care more about platypuses than Pikachu.
- Ovipositioning mammals are not impossible, besides. -Jéské 05:55, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Just wondering- how can you make such an extensive page about Pikachu and not mention that the creature is directly and obviously based on a real animal, both in name and appearance? Pikas are real. http://en.wikipedia.org/Pika Surely that's worth a note or link. 64.230.111.214 (talk) 13:36, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- As far as I can remember, Pikachu has never been compared to a Pika, and was only stated to be a mouse-type Pokémon. If you can find a source stating that Pikachu was based on a Pika, then please present it and we can add that to the article. Artichoker 14:51, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- The same issue was dealt with both here and on Talk:Pika; the end result was that the comparison was inherently original research (as is any other Pokémon comparison). I will note that the relevant discussion is still up on Talk:Pika. -Jéské 19:47, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
About the hatnote
Is "Pikachu" that confusable with any "Picacho"? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 01:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- A person could be looking for Picacho, and simply misspell it. I think the distinguish template is needed. Artichoker 02:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Category:Fictional monsters
Why was Pikachu removed from the fictional monsters category? Pikachu is clearly a monster. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.175.50.102 (talk) 05:22, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- Only if you take the name of the franchise as gospel. A category of fictional rodents is a better fit. -Jéské 05:28, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
- But officaly they are, "monsters" in thje defitnition of one that kills by cuteness and annoying sounds; and being god in pokemon form...--Jakezing (talk) 13:16, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Pikachu has never killed anything. Pokémon never die, only faint. Artichoker 15:37, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- wHICH MAKES LITTLE SENCE ANYWAYS, BUT SO DOES THE IDEA OF A CREATURE THAT YOU NEARLY KILL, AND THEN TRAP IN A SMALL BALL WOULD WANT TO NOT KILL YOU AFTER THAT, AND PIKACHU IS A GOD, HE NEVER LOSES, AND WHEN HE DOES, HE TAKES 5 MINUTES, AND THNE COMES BACK AND KICKS THE OPPONETS ASS,wtf, why was caps on. srry.--Jakezing (talk) 16:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- This is not a forum to discuss the merits of Pokémon or how Pikachu is undefeated in the anime. This talk page should only be used to discuss improvements to the article. Thanks. Useight (talk) 17:34, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- wHICH MAKES LITTLE SENCE ANYWAYS, BUT SO DOES THE IDEA OF A CREATURE THAT YOU NEARLY KILL, AND THEN TRAP IN A SMALL BALL WOULD WANT TO NOT KILL YOU AFTER THAT, AND PIKACHU IS A GOD, HE NEVER LOSES, AND WHEN HE DOES, HE TAKES 5 MINUTES, AND THNE COMES BACK AND KICKS THE OPPONETS ASS,wtf, why was caps on. srry.--Jakezing (talk) 16:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Pikachu has never killed anything. Pokémon never die, only faint. Artichoker 15:37, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- But officaly they are, "monsters" in thje defitnition of one that kills by cuteness and annoying sounds; and being god in pokemon form...--Jakezing (talk) 13:16, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Level 99
Is it safe to assume Pikachu is level 99? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Utils (talk • contribs) 03:41, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- No, not really. There has to be proof that it is level 99 in the TV shows. Try finding a reference for what the actual level it is first. Thanks, RyRy (talk) 03:47, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- In the TV shows, levels are not mentioned. If his Pikachu was level 99, then Ash would be a pretty incompetent trainer, considering Pikachu still loses fights. Although, in Crystal, Red's Pikachu was level 81. bibliomaniac15 04:22, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Wouldn't Pikachu's level increase as you played the game instead of having a set level? Useight (talk) 04:34, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, in Pokemon, they do mention "levels" as when saying "look, this pokemon leveled up!". This was really only mentioned in the later seasons. -- RyRy (talk) 04:38, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, and what bibliomaniac was saying is that a character had a pikachu. Since it is the computer playing that character, Red (funny name), it is a set level. -- RyRy (talk) 04:39, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, it was owned by a non-playable character. I always thought Red was a playable character (I believe the Pokémon Trainer in Super Smash Bros Brawl was designed after Red). I'm really not familiar with Pokémon after the original 151, in my mind it's still Ash, Misty, and Brock being chased by Team Rocket. Useight (talk) 05:04, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, no. The Pokemon character in Super Smash Bros Brawl was not based on Red in the Crystal, Silver, and Gold versions of pokemon video games. It was based on the male playable character of the Pokemon Fire Red and Pokemon Leaf Green versions of Pokemon video games. Oh, and it's actually Ash, Brock, and Dawn being chased by Team Rocket now. :D Hehe, I can't believe how much I still know about Pokemon even if I'm not much of a fan anymore, I'm a bit too old for Pokemon. ^_^ -- RyRy (talk) 05:17, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm, yeah, the male character in Pokémon Fire Red does look like Brawl's Pokémon Trainer. But, according to the article, the character's name is Red. "A bit too old for Pokémon"? Just because you grow old, doesn't mean you have to grow up. Or said differently, you don't stop having fun when you get old, you get old when you stop having fun. Useight (talk) 05:37, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, I guess. Then consider me a Pokemon fan again! :) And I didn't see it said that in the article. -- RyRy (talk) 06:09, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm, yeah, the male character in Pokémon Fire Red does look like Brawl's Pokémon Trainer. But, according to the article, the character's name is Red. "A bit too old for Pokémon"? Just because you grow old, doesn't mean you have to grow up. Or said differently, you don't stop having fun when you get old, you get old when you stop having fun. Useight (talk) 05:37, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, no. The Pokemon character in Super Smash Bros Brawl was not based on Red in the Crystal, Silver, and Gold versions of pokemon video games. It was based on the male playable character of the Pokemon Fire Red and Pokemon Leaf Green versions of Pokemon video games. Oh, and it's actually Ash, Brock, and Dawn being chased by Team Rocket now. :D Hehe, I can't believe how much I still know about Pokemon even if I'm not much of a fan anymore, I'm a bit too old for Pokemon. ^_^ -- RyRy (talk) 05:17, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, it was owned by a non-playable character. I always thought Red was a playable character (I believe the Pokémon Trainer in Super Smash Bros Brawl was designed after Red). I'm really not familiar with Pokémon after the original 151, in my mind it's still Ash, Misty, and Brock being chased by Team Rocket. Useight (talk) 05:04, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, and what bibliomaniac was saying is that a character had a pikachu. Since it is the computer playing that character, Red (funny name), it is a set level. -- RyRy (talk) 04:39, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- In the TV shows, levels are not mentioned. If his Pikachu was level 99, then Ash would be a pretty incompetent trainer, considering Pikachu still loses fights. Although, in Crystal, Red's Pikachu was level 81. bibliomaniac15 04:22, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Just to clear everything up, Red is the playable character in Pokémon Red, Blue, Yellow, FireRed, and LeafGreen. He is the NPC (the one battled at the very end) in Pokémon Gold, Silver, and Crystal. He is also the Pokémon Trainer in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Also the battle mechanics in the Pokémon anime are vastly different from those in the games, so saying Pikachu is level 99 would most likely be incorrect, as well as nonnotable. Artichoker 14:33, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- You know, I find it kind of funny that all of you guys are having a forum discussion over a topic brought up by someone who had to rely on a bot to leave a sig! --haha169 (talk) 04:48, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Concept/creation
Here's a question I have that should be addressed: was Pikachu selected from the beginning as the flagship Pokemon, or did it evolve that way after the anime gained popularity? I seem to remember Pikachu being heavily featured in merchandise early on, but the first video games don't particularly highlight it. Brutannica (talk) 22:12, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- Actually I seem to remember reading somewhere that some other Pokémon (I think it was Clefairy) was initially the mascot in the very beginning, until Pikachu continued to gain popularity and was picked to star in the anime. Unfortunately, I forgot exactly what I was reading. Artichoker 23:09, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- Perhaps you mean the Pocket Monsters manga where Clefairy is a main character?—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 23:13, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- Nope, it had nothing to do with the Manga. I just remember reading somewhere about the origin of Pikachu, and it mentioned that initially a different Pokémon was the franchise's mascot. Artichoker 23:33, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- I once heard that the other mascot from the beginning was actually Jigglypuff. I guess Pikachu was chosen (no pun intended) over Jigglypuff in the end. Useight (talk) 05:48, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- It could have been Jigglypuff. I get the two pink fluffballs mixed up from time to time. Artichoker 14:06, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- I once heard that the other mascot from the beginning was actually Jigglypuff. I guess Pikachu was chosen (no pun intended) over Jigglypuff in the end. Useight (talk) 05:48, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- Nope, it had nothing to do with the Manga. I just remember reading somewhere about the origin of Pikachu, and it mentioned that initially a different Pokémon was the franchise's mascot. Artichoker 23:33, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- Perhaps you mean the Pocket Monsters manga where Clefairy is a main character?—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 23:13, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Ketchup and Ice-cream
We need to mention Pikachu's love for ketchup and ice-cream. Both of which are seen in the anime. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PikachuSnowman (talk • contribs) 04:56, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- I don't remember that; granted I only watched from seasons 1-3. Artichoker 14:06, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- I can't recall the ice cream either; I only recall the ketchup thing happening once, in the season 1 episode "Showdown in Dark City". MelicansMatkin (talk) 19:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- It also likes apples; one even got stuck in its throat in "A Chansey Operation" (ep. 47). Cheers, Face 20:23, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- Good remembering, Face; I'd forgotten all about that one. But the addition of these three things begs the question; are they really necessary? It just seems kind of trivial to me. MelicansMatkin (talk) 21:19, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- It also likes apples; one even got stuck in its throat in "A Chansey Operation" (ep. 47). Cheers, Face 20:23, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- I can't recall the ice cream either; I only recall the ketchup thing happening once, in the season 1 episode "Showdown in Dark City". MelicansMatkin (talk) 19:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Pikachu's love for ketchup is also shown in the Johto story arc, as Pikachu can be seen with a bottle of it while Ash and company are eating. Also, Pikachu is shown eating ice-cream in the episode in which the Clefairy build a spaceship. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PikachuSnowman (talk • contribs) 05:34, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- Are they true? Yes. Are they trivial and/or irrelevant to understanding what a Pikachu is? Also yes. Ergo, do we add them? Nein. -Jéské 18:21, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
They are not trivial details. As shown in many episodes, the physical appearance of Pokemon can be affected by the foods they eat. Ketchup may be an important part of keeping Pikachu's cheeks red! Also, ice-cream may be important in cooling down a Pikachu. Electricity is very hot!PikachuSnowman (talk) 06:07, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- However, unless you have some reliable third-party sources, that would be original research. Useight (talk) 05:07, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
It is established that food can alter appearances, so we can let readers decide if these parts of a Pikachu's diet are affecting its color.PikachuSnowman (talk) 06:07, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry, but the facts remain trivial because the diet thing only applies in a third of Pokémon's metaseries (Remember, the franchise is divided into manga, animé, and video game; all three have separate canons). What is true in the anime is sometimes not true in the other two (the same applies to the manga and the video games - for example, the video games state that Team Rocket was disbanded during the timeline of Gold/Silver/Crystal, but Team Rocket is still alive in the anime).-Jéské 06:50, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
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