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| There is a big article in the german wikipedia (]), a wiki that is known for quick deletion of everything that is not relevant enough. The green dragon should also be relevant enough for the english wikipeda (no, it isn't a german game). However, this shouldn't be decided by somebody judging by the very similar name, that the games are nearly identical, which is nonsense. I am a native speaker of german, but I have not enough insight in the topic to re-create the article ]. By the way, I found out about this issue beeing forwared from the green dragon to the red one, without even mentioning the green dragon in the introduction. --] (]) 14:45, 26 September 2008 (UTC) | There is a big article in the german wikipedia (]), a wiki that is known for quick deletion of everything that is not relevant enough. The green dragon should also be relevant enough for the english wikipeda (no, it isn't a german game). However, this shouldn't be decided by somebody judging by the very similar name, that the games are nearly identical, which is nonsense. I am a native speaker of german, but I have not enough insight in the topic to re-create the article ]. By the way, I found out about this issue beeing forwared from the green dragon to the red one, without even mentioning the green dragon in the introduction. --] (]) 14:45, 26 September 2008 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | ||
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Revision as of 14:46, 26 September 2008
Cleaning up and expanding
Alright, I've been working on and cleaning up this article and well, due to an upcoming change in version 4.07 (as noted here), the weapons and armor are going to become editable. The reason I note this is that someone has done a full list of both in the article. For now, I am going to delete the list, replacing it instead with a note about the upcoming change. Eric42 03:52, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Celebrities
Wow! We've had both Seth Robinson and Micheal Preslar here at Wiki editing this entry. For those who don't know (and thus, never read the actual entry), Seth Robinson is the creator of the game and Micheal Preslar is the current maintainer. Quite nifty actually.
- Actually, this is a problem. Before today this article contained many sections which were either POV, software documentation, or arguably self-promotional in nature. Please review Misplaced Pages:What Misplaced Pages is not -- it is highly problematic for either the original creator of LORD or for its current maintainer to contribute to this article without it becoming biased or unencyclopedic. While I deeply appreciate the contributions that Robinson and Preslar have made to the LORD software (and indeed to the history of bulletin board systems), it is not appropriate for them to contribute to this article. --G0zer 10:16, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
- Can you point to any particular change which is attributable to Michael or Seth that exhibits the sort of problems you describe? --Hawke666 00:59, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
- I'm mostly referring to the addition of unverifiable claims about future versions of the software. —ptk✰fgs 01:07, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Memories
Oh, corks! I remember this game. The twelve levels, the ShadowStormWarrior, the armor and weapons, scribbling in the Dark Cloak Tavern, using the fairy to pick the lock...has it been so long? I only have the most fleeting of memories of LORD. Evidently, some people are still selling it (?!). I'm surprised that the original is not freely available, or else I would have downloaded it straightaway and run it on dosemu. --Ardonik 18:41, 2004 Aug 4 (UTC)
Lord was a very special doorgame, in a very special time.
I met friends while playing lord, that i still have today.
It probably goes without saying that lord was the most successful doorgame of all time .
-oblivious-
- Unfortunately, 24.209.116.148, your recent edits have completely ravaged this article. Instead of cleaning up its content, you removed most of it, turning the article back into a stub. I'm going to revert your change and put a cleanup tag on the top of the article. (doesn't look like cleanup is necessary; the article looks okay to me, if a little rough around the edges.) --Ardonik.talk() 15:37, August 23, 2005 (UTC)
i'm sorry you feel that way ardonik, but having played the doorgame since 1992, i felt that preslar's recent additions to the entry were extremely biased and 'chocked full' of redundant content.. ie:pasting the entire weapon/armor/etc lists...
i was also unhappy about him slamming the igms which really made the l.o.r.d doorgame so very interesting and popular! without them, all you could do is visit the forest, kill something there, kill sleeping players, goto the bank..buy new weapons and armor.... not much to it, if you want to play it more than once! :D
but i sort of agree with you, i did chop out a bit too much, i was feeling a little bit guilty and i loaded up the wayback machine, and i was going cut and paste the original here... but i see you reverted the article, so all is well..
sometimes i let my anger get the best out of me... l.o.r.d was a great way to meet people in my area, and we had a lot of fun. i feel bad that it's developement has been taking over by someone that i truly believe does not care about the project.
Dont care about the game? I care about it a lot more than anyone could ever realize. Something else that a lot of people dont realize is that I have a family and a dayjob that both take priority over my hobby programming. Lord does, and always will, hold a special place in my heart, but paying my bills, and spending time with my 1.5 year old son are more important to me right now.
But for those that are wondering. 4.07 dos/win32/nix are very close to being done. It all depends on beta testing. People that run the binaries never report problems. (I'll leave one in on purpose just to see if theyre paying attention).. So really. Once I know that they game is as bug free as I can make it for now, it will be released.
I too have memories of playing LORD. It was back in the time when MBNet (MikroBitti's BBS) still ran on a telephone-based system instead of the Internet. So I set my modem to dial to the BBS and played LORD. I remember being quite an irritating newbie at it... JIP | Talk 08:28, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
where to download and play the game
http://lord.lordlegacy.com/downloads/ is the download site on Michael's website. Also on Michael's website at http://lord.lordlegacy.com/converse.php is a link to a place where you can play the game!
Most bbses have this excellent doorgame installed. Here's some bbs lists and bbs related sites to get you started:
thebbs.org:THE largest bbs related site (l.o.r.d author is involved with operators)
Synchronet BBS software's networked bbs list (updated daily)
The BBS Corner's telnet bbs list (over 400 listings)
Legend of the Green Dragon
What happened to the Legend of the Green Dragon article? I can't find any deletion logs or any evidence that it even existed. X-Kal 07:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Oh. COuld we start a new one? It's a popular game, after all. 124.189.211.26 (talk) 22:52, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Aha, someone replied! There used to be one that was deleted, due to a lack of notability. Unfortunately, I can't seem to get a firm enough understanding of Misplaced Pages's policies to know more detailed reasons than that, and I would fear that the new article would be deleted faster than I can say "create new article." Perhaps someone more experienced in Misplaced Pages could help me work on how to get the article back, and how to change it so that it stays? It is certainly notable enough - it just needs to meet guidelines and policies. X-Kal (talk) 08:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
That'd be because the people that run wikipedia are idiots. More people (nowdays) have probably heard of LotGD over LotRD, but who cares? as long as it makes sense to the 5 or so people in charge, what does it matter what 5000 odd people think? Misplaced Pages is a free range website for all ideas and good things? bollocks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.0.217.95 (talk) 04:25, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
There is a big article in the german wikipedia (de:Legend of the Green Dragon), a wiki that is known for quick deletion of everything that is not relevant enough. The green dragon should also be relevant enough for the english wikipeda (no, it isn't a german game). However, this shouldn't be decided by somebody judging by the very similar name, that the games are nearly identical, which is nonsense. I am a native speaker of german, but I have not enough insight in the topic to re-create the article Legend of the Green Dragon. By the way, I found out about this issue beeing forwared from the green dragon to the red one, without even mentioning the green dragon in the introduction. --JonnyJD (talk) 14:45, 26 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by JonnyJD (talk • contribs)
External Links
While I understand that privately-run "unofficial" servers are totally legal, I do question the placement of links to unofficial servers in the Misplaced Pages article. I'm not sure if there is an "official" LORD site to use, but in terms of LotGD, I think we should remove all except the real deal, unless someone highly objects to this. X-Kal (talk) 05:37, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
i think your understanding of l.o.r.d and how it works is a bit off, x-kal. lord does not run on one official server, a consumer purchases it and then runs it on their system.
the official lord site IS http://lord.lordlegacy.com
i totally agree with you regarding the posting of links. there are several hundred systems that host the game l.o.r.d and posting links to Systems is really not acceptable or necessary Bbsjoey (talk) 22:40, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Open-source status of Legend of the Green Dragon
Due to the recent revert, I feel that I need an explanation as to why Legend of the Green Dragon is no longer open source. The license agreement requires that all source code of the software and third-party modifications be available upon request, and it is publicly available at the modding community's site, http://dragonprime.net - since when did Creative Commons and open source negate each other? X-Kal (talk) 06:46, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- Creative Commons is not definitely open source or free, since it includes even licenses which prohibit modification (or only minor modifications, like CC Sampling+) and commercial use at the same time.
- See Open source, Open source software and item 1 of the definition.
- --AVRS (talk) 11:31, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- Check, check, check. Legend of the Green Dragon fits all criteria listed in the definition, and upon skimming the other two articles, it seems to fit those, too. What about this specific software appears that it's not open-source, then? The Creative Commons licenses have variations that allow for closed-source projects, for projects that do not allow modifications and derivations, but also do seem to have room for open-source projects such as this one. You're citing that it's possible to prohibit modifications under certain variations of the Creative Commons license, but this instance doesn't even have that kind of restriction. The *only* thing I might come up with is that the Creative Commons by-nc-sa license prohibits commercial use - "You may not exercise any of the rights granted to You in Section 3 above in any manner that is primarily intended for or directed toward commercial advantage or private monetary compensation." If that's it, I don't think that's enough to revoke it's open source status. If there's something else going on, I'm clearly missing it. X-Kal (talk) 07:18, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- OSD criterion (sp?) #1 is what I mean — the software must be sellable royalty-free as a part of an aggregate distribution. Also criterion #6: “may not restrict the program from being used in a business” --AVRS (talk) 10:16, 14 August 2008 (UTC)