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: Are you repeatedly failing to grasp the same POLICIES over and OVER again? And is all you do now ignore the policies ""? Hmm, three reliable sources that say Dead Rising is survival horror, none that refute it, and you're still trying to assert your opinion on the genre...rofl. If you're so sure that "they will probably change their answer", then go "talk to them about more stuff" and come back when they've removed "survival horror" from their Dead Rising articles. —<font face="Verdana">]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></font> 16:27, 28 June 2009 (UTC) : Are you repeatedly failing to grasp the same POLICIES over and OVER again? And is all you do now ignore the policies ""? Hmm, three reliable sources that say Dead Rising is survival horror, none that refute it, and you're still trying to assert your opinion on the genre...rofl. If you're so sure that "they will probably change their answer", then go "talk to them about more stuff" and come back when they've removed "survival horror" from their Dead Rising articles. —<font face="Verdana">]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></font> 16:27, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


Of course, I just logged in because someone on a Warcraft III website started falming people...and he said his password was Ago...and his name was AgoINAgo...so I logged on as him...and OXM label it as "Action Adventure".
==New official trailer== ==New official trailer==
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcILgDEPu2k http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcILgDEPu2k

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Character Clarification is Needed

References to the previous game's characters should be explained as not everyone reading this page will know the previous game's characters by name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.173.125.183 (talk) 14:12, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Not a rumor

"A source close to Canadian developer Blue Castle Games has told Eurogamer that the studio is making a sequel to Dead Rising." That's not a rumor. That's a leak. JAF1970 (talk) 18:57, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Until there press release stating that DR 2 exist the article should be redirected. --SkyWalker (talk) 18:59, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Learn something about journalism. This is NOT a rumor - this is a leak from an undisclosed source to a prominent news site saying, "Yes, we're doing it." Leaks are news items on embargoed topics, rumors are speculation. There is no speculation here. You may Misplaced Pages:Requests for mediation JAF1970 (talk) 19:02, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
So what?. The game is not confirmed by Capcom. There is not enough information for the article to exist. --SkyWalker (talk) 19:05, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
I don't have the bloody time to request for mediation for a silly matter. --SkyWalker (talk) 19:06, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
You're wrong - Capcom did not deny it when asked point blank. They said "no comment". JAF1970 (talk) 19:07, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
PS. Eurogamer did not title the article: "Blue Castle making Dead Rising 2?". They titled it "Blue Castle making Dead Rising 2" period. This is not a rumor, it's a leak. JAF1970 (talk) 19:09, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
I did not say they deny it. I said they have said nothing. "no comment" means nothing it is a usual term by them. --SkyWalker (talk) 19:16, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
That's bullshit JAF. It's a rumour, I know the blogging school of which states that "all leaks are facts", and that "we're all journalists now", might state otherwise, but it's wrong. An anonymous leak without any proof, and no confirmation from anyone, is a rumour. Regardless of whether it's true or not, it is not substantiated. And do you know why Capcom said "no comment"? It's because every single corporation will not respond to rumours. - hahnchen 19:35, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Eurogamer is a blog? The same people who run GamesIndustry.biz? I've been in video game journalism for over a decade, including Computer Games Magazine. Next, you'll tell me the Washington Post was blogging a rumor about the Watergate scandal. (laugh) I suggest you learn what news leak means. (Hint: Not a rumor) JAF1970 (talk) 19:56, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Of course not, the blogging "I'm a journalist too" quote was directed at you, and was nothing to do with Eurogamer or Watergate. And yes, until confirmed, leaks are pure speculation. Deep Throat didn't prove anything, he led them in the right direction. Leaks happen every day, hedge funds "leak" information every day to send stock prices going the way they want them to. A leak went around lately about Sony merchandise being stopped in transit to Circuit City due to their lack of credit - http://kotaku.com/5073448/sony-merch-bound-for-circuit-city-makes-u+turn-%5Bupdated%5D . Only there's no proof and there are other more viable reasons.
You'll find that other sources have rightly reported this leak as a rumour, http://kotaku.com/5079300/someone-else-says-dead-rising-2-in-development-at-blue-castle, because an unnamed source can't exactly confirm a game, no matter what shitty blogs with no professional credentials might say. (laughs - I was going to hyper link the word "laughs" to gamestooge, but its on the spam blacklist, which is even funnier) - hahnchen 20:13, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
The funny thing is - leak is not rumor. Ask anyone in journalism, politics, etc. As for GameStooge, it's not supposed to be on blacklist, and they keep saying they'll repair it. The reason it's on there is due to a mistake. JAF1970 (talk) 18:40, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

JAF1970 wins this argument. 124.187.150.157 (talk) 07:46, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Trailer

What does the it say in the Japanese text under the Dead Rising 2 in the trailer? Also, the name "Isabelle Heeds" is stressed as responsible for the virus. JAF1970 (talk) 18:05, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Isabella -Keyes-, Carlito's sister from the first game.-75.130.171.0 (talk) 18:51, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Ahhhh... hm. Not sure if it's enough to post as a "confirmed character", since they're only referring to her. JAF1970 (talk) 18:54, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

No --- she discovered Zombrex. 58.164.65.225 (talk) 02:12, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Zombrex?

Ummm, saw this in the trailer, next to what seemed to be a wikipedia logo. Is this supposed to be a special deal between wiki and Capcom, or is it just a shortcut to this page? SSBBchamp (talk) 22:16, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

I was hoping it would be a viral wiki page but I got rerouted here so it seems like it's a short cut-24.6.162.203 (talk) 02:35, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

They just used it as an effect-- its real IN the game. 58.164.65.225 (talk) 02:12, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Survival Horror?!

Errr... why is this and DR1 put up as survival horror. Its extremely easy, and its not made for survival horror. Its made for humor. 58.164.65.225 (talk) 02:12, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Check the survival horror page. It fits. Yes, DR has a lot of humour in (I have to find that lawnmower), but you're fighting thousands of zombies with little ammo. Compare to Generic Shooter 3. Generic Shooter 3: Dukka-dukka-dukka DIE, YOU ZOMBIES! Dead Rising: Thwack-thwack-thwack ARGH BASEBALL BAT IS BROKEN RUN AWAY! That says it all really. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 09:24, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Er... you're really trying to survive by spitting fire onto zombies... Guns have no purpose as they are weak. But seriously... remove the horror bit... thats bulls***. Err and also I'm the same person, albeit different IP. The mall has lots of items, and basically you can kill an entire horde with melee attacks JUMP! KICK! Knocked third of horde away and killed a third of that.. NECK CRUSH! Jump! Human Whirlwind! Disembowel! KICK AGAIN THEN WHIRLWIND AGAIN! Done.60.228.40.54 (talk) 04:15, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

And... also, they stopped being used (baseball bats) since people found the sword shop in North Plaza (unlimited supply), got the Real Mega Buster from Zombie Genocide, and err the mentioned above melee attacks and the chainsaws spawning at the ride in Wonderland Plaza (is that its name) once you have finished the Out of Control scoop... Also, books can be found which increase items lifespan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.187.150.157 (talk) 07:45, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I did use the bats even after I had the katana. I found them funny. They make a wonderful 'klonk' sound. The guns are useful if you use them correctly. If you have a good enough aim, you can just stop a horde in its track with the pistol. And 'Real Mega Buster'? What's that (I haven't had time to earn that achievement yet)? But still, waltz around in the Maintenence Tunnels with one pistol and tell me that's not survival horror. ... Maybe you're just playing it on Easy (does DR actually have difficulty levels? It's been too long since I've played it). --Thejadefalcon (talk) 11:18, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

LOL! You've hardly discovered anything! Mini chainsaws can cut a swath through the horde. There is no difficulty levels! Are you level ten? I'm lvl 50 - did you even remember what I was talking about melee attacks? RMB is mega man's weapon (you can find a false one with tennis ball projectiles) with 200 ammo and can down any boss in a few hits. Also, why would you 'waltz' around there with a pistol? You can't be trapped -- zombie ride basically propels all difficulty away. Also -- if you like funny sounds, then goto Paradise Plaza and goto the guitar shop -- there's V-wing guitars with funny sounds. And, also, with books most items will last another 24 hours (2 real hours). Additionally, you won't be able to go to Maintenance without noticing a bike or car there. You'll ram over zombies, Otis will inform you about a key, you'll go there, find a SMG spot, and go out again. Really, if you're underpowered you'll only go there again with the bomb-run -- if you got the key, you'll go out of the security room and go to the tunnel entrance in Paradise, and there's a white car there. Carlito has his truck and will chuck explosives at you, however the main point -- ITS NOT MANDATORY! Really, you choose to fail this case, get ending F, no achievements, or errr miss The Last Resort and you get a lower ending which still gives you 20 points etc so much to counter the falseness of Misplaced Pages 60.229.168.130 (talk) 10:10, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I think I'm level 48, but I can't remember. But I can't be bothered to get chainsaws et all if my current weapons are okay. I waltz around in the maintence halls as a test of skill. Get as many headshots as possible while totally surrounded. I rarely use Zombie Ride and the cars are boring. But still, this isn't the topic. Zombies equal horror. You have to survive. Glue the words together and you have a genre. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 14:02, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations you've just accepted a harsh counter -- Ok Half Life 2, Half Life Episode One Half Life Episode Two, Halo: Combat Evolved, Halo 2, Halo 3, The Sims, etc they're survival horror. They have surviving (Sims has a fire that kills people) and Zombies, or undead, parasites etc. Also, just remember that Dead Rising is a humor game = no horror. Resident Evil may have been horror with humor (err... haven't played it yet hope it gets XBLA), but this is generally zombies with humor. Also, a skills test does not define a game's genre. Plus, horror survive and survive horror is not a genre... Capcom's Resident Evil 5's main battle is something you may argue to be Survival H, but its more like Intelligent Shooter where you conserve ammo on Veteran (that is, before you buy new weapons, get infinite ammo, etc). Now, back to the point -- your play style is more like Suicide Bash-em-up. 124.179.172.49 (talk) 03:37, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

No seriously, this bullsh** needs to stop. BioShock? What the F***? Resident Evil 5?! Get a life. Seriously!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.179.172.49 (talk) 03:42, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

DEVIL MAY CRY?! WHAT?! WHAT?! WHAT?! WHAT?! DEVIL MAY CRY? "Splendid timing! You admins are just in time for the fireworks show! BOOM! *laugh*" -- Ricardo Irving WATCH —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.179.172.49 (talk) 03:49, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Looks like you need a time out. For a start, the BioShock article says this: “The game incorporates elements found in role-playing and survival horror games.” It has a citation. Do you want me to find a citation for Dead Rising as well? Well, I can't, but only because all the websites are blocked on this PC. Search 'Dead Rising survival horror' on Google. Everything I could see with only one exception (which seemed to be you) said it was a 'survival horror.' Survival horror is changing. Stop going berserk. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 13:09, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

No, several magazines and such don't think its Survival Horror or what. Left 4 Dead, uh...I'll let it pass as "Survival", but not Horror. No but seriously, DMC, no. No. "Elements found in Survival Horror and Role-Playing etc", so, Survival Horror has a save system! Brilliant! BioShock does! While some have been scared at certain moments at BioShock, its not a horror game, really. If all the "websites are blocked", are you some person living in your mums basement, or underage? Oh wait, do you go to the library to get at the internet computer, and it has a filter? Dead Rising is stated by the developers on the official European site to be a survival-horror game, but of course many other magazines and such disagree. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.219.137.55 (talk) 10:08, 24 June 2009

You know, that could probably class as a personal attack. Does it really matter who or what I am as long as I try to improve Misplaced Pages? I could be a Vulcan and it wouldn't/shouldn't matter. In fact, let's play as a Vulcan to respond to your comment. Logically, if a developer says what a game is attempting to be, that is what the game is. I have seen magazines and online sources claim that a game is a third-person shooter when it is anything but. Even if the game is not good at being a survival horror, it still is if the developers claim it is. Eragon isn't a very good fantasy book, but it is still regarded as a fantasy book by it's author. Logically, the same rule should apply here. And yes, I live with my mother, but that's because she's severely disabled and I have to look after her. I presume you would not understand the meaning of the word responsibility? Yes, I go to the library. I read, you see. Remember, Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations. This is Sarek of Vulcan, out. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 12:09, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Expanding on my comment: Left 4 Dead is survival horror. Maybe you didn't read this link. Things never remain the same and games evolve more rapidly than most things do. Survival horror is in the midst of a massive change from previous generations. I must confess to being utterly bemused by your savegame comment. If a game doesn't have a savegame system, then it is going to be regarded as utterly awful and for good reason. Going back to my comment about a developer's word being final, let's define that some more. Say Nintendo and Game Freak were to state that Pokémon... Geode was a survival horror game (yes, it's an odd analogy, but stick with me). Game reviewers would say how good it was at that task. If it was an awful survival horror game, then they could say what they believe it should be labelled as, but it is still labelled as a survival horror until the developers state otherwise. I personally wouldn't have thought that some games should be labelled as an action adventure game, but they are and I accept that. So should you. Sarek of Vulcan, closing the channel. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 15:41, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Of course I did, L4D can be a survival game sometimes, but its not made for horror. For example, while Valve in commentary have this quote "terrifying world", X360 World says otherwise. Of course, Halo Wars is also a Crowd-Bashing game. Many people hate Misplaced Pages for its rules...and such. Wikis are vastly superior, as they allow for: Detail, Original Research, Speculation, Theories, The Truth without Sources, Opinion, and much more. Attack or no attack, by talking as a Klingon, you're pretty much accelerating my "attack" above. Survival Horror: Survival is where you are desperate, weak, underpowered, and have little ammo, and ammo conversation and fleeing is important. But if Capcom bills SFIV as an RTS, will you list that its an RTS? No. No no no no. Misplaced Pages allows for false information, for that reason, and such. Eragon is...a fantasy book. Horror, is not zombies, but scares, terror. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.51.113.252 (talk • contribs) 09:13, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Whether or not the Dead Rising series is a true survival horror is not our concern. That would be dealing with the notion of "The Truth" and Misplaced Pages does not deal in truth. We deal in verifiability. If we have reliable sources stating that Dead Rising is a survival horror (i.e. ), we should report it as such. –xeno 14:25, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Metacritic, MobyGames, and IGN have Dead Rising as survival horror. Got any reliable sources that refute it? —LOL /C 01:22, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Are you repeating the same LINES over and OVER again? And is all you do now reply to my posts? Hmm, standing there taking photos of zombies...thats not survival horror...rofl. Directly ask them and they will probably change their answer if you talk to them about more stuff. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AgoINAgo (talk • contribs) 11:39, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Are you repeatedly failing to grasp the same POLICIES over and OVER again? And is all you do now ignore the policies "in a fuckhole full of idiots"? Hmm, three reliable sources that say Dead Rising is survival horror, none that refute it, and you're still trying to assert your opinion on the genre...rofl. If you're so sure that "they will probably change their answer", then go "talk to them about more stuff" and come back when they've removed "survival horror" from their Dead Rising articles. —LOL /C 16:27, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Of course, I just logged in because someone on a Warcraft III website started falming people...and he said his password was Ago...and his name was AgoINAgo...so I logged on as him...and OXM label it as "Action Adventure".

New official trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcILgDEPu2k 12.199.45.138 (talk) 13:34, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I laughed. Loudly. In a library. Do you think you can find it from somewhere more official than YouTube? --Thejadefalcon (talk) 15:54, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Well, it has the CapCom logo, so it seems legit. Strong Intelligent (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:26, 28 April 2009 (UTC).
A 'more official' link: http://kotaku.com/5230733/first-full-dead-rising-2-trailer or http://www.insidegamer.nl/pc/deadrising2/videos/10302 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.199.45.138 (talk) 22:51, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. It's just my experience is that stuff on YouTube is probably unreliable. Yes, it looked too good for a fake, but I've learned not to assume anything. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 11:45, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Photography

While it would fit the apparent lack of Frank West, is there a citation for the lack of a photography mechanic? --Thejadefalcon (talk) 10:01, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

http://kotaku.com/5232765/dead-rising-2-handyman-cameraman
"Dead Rising 2 will not have photography. Capcom's Keiji Inafune was pretty clear about that when I spoke with him last week" So at the moment that's a reliable 'no'. I'm not sure how to insert sources yet, though. Can someone else?--F4M (talk) 16:55, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
I thought Kotaku was regarded as unreliable? Well, I can't do anything anyway. I'm not too sure how to add citations yet. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 09:48, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 Done Got the cite up for you. talk ♦ contribs 00:10, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! --Thejadefalcon (talk) 11:01, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

PS2/Wii version actually been confirmed or just rumour?

The platform section and the beginning of the article claims the game will be released for the PlayStation 2 and the Nintendo Wii, yet the web page provided as a source implies there aren't versions for those two consoles.

1st May Edit - Nevermind. It seems someone's fixed it, thanks. LuigiEspadachin (talk) 14:19, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Santa Cabeza

I just reverted this. Is there a citation for Chuck Greene not being involved in Santa Cabeza? Because being "somehow involved in the zombie apocalypse" is a ridiculous thing to say as everyone in the city is "somehow involved." I have no clue if Chuck is linked to Santa Cabeza or not, but for now, I'll leave it saying that it is until someone can come up with a citation either way. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 09:52, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

-Maybe we can say it some other way, but Chuck Greene definitely was not involved in the Santa Cabeza incident. Not even Frank West was involved in the Santa Cabeza incident. You say yourself that you're not sure he was there so you should DEFINITELY not be putting that in there173.29.225.0 (talk) 03:25, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, now that I think about it, what the hell was I talking about? But it was either my revert or deleting the entire sentence. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 11:54, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

March 30th, 2010

Gamestop has started taking pre-orders for DR2 with this date listed. Can anyone confirm this? Dengarde ► Complaints 05:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Can't use vendors for reliable sources, nor is the fact they are taking pre-orders significant. --MASEM (t) 05:24, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm well aware, but Gamestop has a history of not allowing pre-orders untill an actual date has been confirmed. I find it odd that that they would actually start at this point if theres no actual date. Just throwing it out.Dengarde ► Complaints 05:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Still, even if they are usually good, they're still considered unreliable unless they're backed up. Besides, I'm not too certain about 2010. It sounds a bit too far off to be honest, judging by what the game looks like. But what do I know? --Thejadefalcon (talk) 10:52, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Fair enough. Though knowing games these days, March 2010 sounds about right. Hell, with as much as they've shown, who knows how much they have done. Dengarde ► Complaints 14:18, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
I thought they'd shown quite a lot... maybe I dreamed it. I do that sometimes. But the things I've seen look like release quality. While I doubt they've finished it all, I just thought that they would merely need to finish a few environments (or not finish, in the case of the first game's North Plaza), fine tuning, beta testing and then fine tuning again. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 14:23, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
If it come out March 2010 then why is it listed as November 2009 on here?--97.101.58.118 (talk) 17:41, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Because some fool vandalised it (or read a placeholder date) and it got buried by another vandal. Thanks for pointing it out. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 16:04, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Moved to talk

This quote, with a passing reference to DR2 has little to do with the game:

Chris Kramer stated:

"Capcom’s kind of on a 30 year high right now, it’s a pretty amazing place to be. Between everything we’ve got going right now, between the launch of Street Fighter IV and Resident Evil 5, and our big titles for next year, Lost Planet 2 and Dead Rising 2."

Added.

So I moved it to talk. Calendar (talk) 20:40, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

It did once have meaning (saying that it wasn't going to be released in 2009 (which I'd forgotten about when I blathered above in the above section)), but it must have been edited out. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 09:44, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Moved to talk also: jacket

OXM recently announced that Chuck's sports jacket is made by a sportswear company called "Ijiek", which is Keiji Inafune's first name spelled backwards. Dead Rising 2 gameplay was shown for the first time at CAPTIVATE '09 (the CAPCOM Convention). The article cited does not mention a jacket or Keiji. I will try to find a source for this.

Added here.

Citation for another sentence which was added. This sentence was deleted by me, but the Kramez's Blog cite wasn't. Calendar (talk) 01:18, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I searched Xbox magazine: no references to Ijiek.
No reliable sources mention the jacket.
Calendar (talk) 01:36, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Official site

Official site for deadrising 2? Deadrising2.com is not the official site. Calendar (talk) 00:53, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

IGN take an in depth look at the Dead Rising 2 Captivate 09 trailer. They break it down frame by frame noting even the smallest details,
2 trailers thus far one a test trailer. Calendar (talk) 01:05, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Stacey Forsythe

How come the article doesn't say anything about this new character? Stacey Forsythe I can't seem to find any source outside Fangoria, but I'm looking. If someone finds one, we might want to add this. Dengarde ► Complaints 00:00, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Capcom will reveal it in due time. --SkyWalker (talk) 12:12, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Looks like fake bullshit for Dead Rising. Betting that she is a physchopath in DR2.

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