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== Icefrogs Real Name ==

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Is not Abdul Ismail. He's anonymous, to this day and age.

Just remove that part and the rest is fine.

It's literally a meme that you guys copied.

Now I know why my teachers taught me not to use wikipedia as a reliable source.

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== Is there any competent person to write more about DotA influence on the MOBA genre? == == Is there any competent person to write more about DotA influence on the MOBA genre? ==

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Is there any competent person to write more about DotA influence on the MOBA genre?

Is there any competent person who wants to write more about DotA, and generally Warcraft Editor, influence on the MOBA genre? Last hitting mechanics, items, they were all part of Warcraft World Editor "limitations", which then became standard for the whole genre. On the other side, we have Heroes of the Storm, which is not "limited" by Warcraft Editor (no last hits, no items...), but it is still highly inspired by the same game, trying to include as many original Warcraft heroes as it can. First maps in the game have been influenced by Warcraft (instead sci-fi, "near future", or "dark theme") as well, despite the fact that HotS has originated from the StarCraft Map Editor and engine.

In addition, not only DotA as a game was inspiration to the other MOBA games, but DotA lead designers and original creators had direct influence in the development of the next two most popular games in the genre. To be fair, it has been noted in the article, but that section needs expansion. EchoBlu (talk) 06:10, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Why do you think I am arguing? I even wrote "To be fair, it has been noted in the article, but that section needs expansion." Can you just WP:GF? EchoBlu (talk) 00:21, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
Because you typed all of this when you could have simply said the article could use some expansion. Its impact on the MOBA genre and esports as a whole is known, no need to point that out on a talk page. ~ Dissident93 11:07, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
When did explaining suggestion become problem on Misplaced Pages? EchoBlu (talk) 11:53, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
I suggest understanding that Misplaced Pages is a general-purpose encyclopedia, and game details and mechanics like last-hitting are not relevant to include. Most of what you're talking about above isn't covered in reliable sources and thus should not be included. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs 04:03, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

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